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> Add Any Extra Button To Xbox 360 Wireless Controller
oxicottin
post Jan 15 2006, 10:31 PM
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I desoildered the points and put it back together and now my controller (origional) "A" and "B" bottons work. Its not that I pulled up a pad or scratched a trace. what else could it be?

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post Jan 16 2006, 12:43 AM
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I may just add tiny buttons behind the actual bumper buttons, so the bumper buttons press them, but disable the current little clicky bits, and add some other buttons like you have with the black/white buttons.

Do you reckon this would be easier or harder to construct than the previously mentioned swapping functions mod?
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post Jan 16 2006, 01:01 AM
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probably harder I would say

maybe the buttons are dammaged oxi...use a multimeter to check the resistance when you push the buttons
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post Jan 16 2006, 07:13 PM
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I checked the resentence for the buttons and they are fine. I thought it was my soildering job not getting a connection but i checked and im getting a current in my wires. Just when i soilder to the board the buttons dont work (the origionals and the added tact buttons). any more suggestions? blink.gif

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post Jan 17 2006, 02:31 AM
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there are only a few things it can even be.
1)lifted/broken trace
2)bad button
3)bad solder joint
4)broken wire

i think that you may have scraped away some of the green stuff on the surrounding area of the actual contact. just thelil dot and the trace connected to it are ok to have wire or solder touching if the green stuff is gone. everything surrounding the contact is ground...so that would make it not work if your solder was overlapping or something. I really cant help you anymore on this though. I have given you all the ideas I have because I know its one of the things I have mentioned. Im sorry you cant figure it out, but keep messin with it...you fix it. If it works fine without anything added then your all gravy beerchug.gif
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post Jan 17 2006, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE(jeremydammit @ Jan 16 2006, 06:38 PM) *

i think that you may have scraped away some of the green stuff on the surrounding area of the actual contact. just thelil dot and the trace connected to it are ok to have wire or solder touching if the green stuff is gone. everything surrounding the contact is ground...so that would make it not work if your solder was overlapping or something. I really cant help you anymore on this though. I have given you all the ideas I have because I know its one of the things I have mentioned. Im sorry you cant figure it out, but keep messin with it...you fix it. If it works fine without anything added then your all gravy beerchug.gif


That is the exact problem i had. I was having the same problem that oxi has, and found out that my solder extended over the solder points to the surrounding scraped green contact mesh. This was causing not only my new "A" and "B" buttons to not work, but also the orignals on the top. ONce i resoldered my points so that it was not running over into the surrounding copper mesh, everything work perfectly.


Also, for all those who are wanting to just swop two buttons, all you have to do is find the points that have trace running from it to another point, then just cut those traces and then jump wires to each corresponding point where you cut the traces. There is no need to worry about cutting traces to the ground points. I did this for swoping the two analog stick click buttons, and it worked perfectly, and was easy to do, once i figured out what to do.tongue.gif

QUOTE(Mario4885 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:48 PM) *

I was hoping you wouldnt say mouser...I always have a hell of a time finding anything there. The catalog is well over 100 mb last time i downloaded it, and the pictures dont give a very good representation of the pieces in 3 dimensions. If you have the part number for those small buttons you used, that would be great, but im still going to have to find buttons a little bit larger with more "give" for my a & b underneath. I really need to get one of those 6 or 8-way switches so i can switch actions for the buttons i install depending on game (jump & melee works w/ H2, but i want jump & duck for Q4, and melee is yet another stick/click for CoD2.

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I'm running into the same problems with 360 games trying to re-invent the fps control wheel, when it comes to button setup.

COD2 melee is just in the most fubard place, but i do love the gernades on the left shoulder button, and i'm thinking of doing the same for halo.

I wonder if it were possible to add a jumper switch table to the outside of the controller, so that you could enable and disable with a click on or off of what buttons you wanted for the buttons you wanted changed? I'm sure this would work.

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QUOTE(jeremydammit @ Jan 15 2006, 07:48 PM) *

Kevlar218, this should do it for you. Be very careful doing any of these mods on the 360 controllers. The contacts are very easy to lift causeing shorts and unexpected outcomes like the ones that oxi is having. In this picture you need to cut the traces where you see the red lines and then you use wire to patch between the points. So "a" connects to "b", "c" goes to "d", "e" to "f" and "g" goes to "h"...that should swap the functions for you. I think I shrunk my picture a lil too much....let me know if I need to redo it.
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oxicottin, I dont really have a solution for you other than checking that no contacts have been lifted, thats what I think your problem is.

TheRealNeoGeo, no the wired is a different set up...same idea but different traces. I will try to make a tut for the wired soon.

TA Klick, the mod you want to do is not that highly recomended for a noob. It is very easy to pull the traces loose when removing the trigger assemblies. If you want to try anyway then here is part of what you need to know. if you read this whole tutorial, you should be able to figure out how this is done. This picture shows you the contacts and the traces that need to be cut for the bumpers.
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Thanks for the diagram! That looks like how I did it, but I am having a hard time seeing the letters. If you could blow up the pic a little bit more for me that would be great. Thanks again Jeremy! Maybe just make the letters Yellow so they are more destinctive.

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post Jan 17 2006, 05:39 AM
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I bet it is that I am grounding it because some of them I have scraped just past the circle. Ill resoilder and let you guys know what happens!! Thanks for all the help! biggrin.gif

Jeremy check out this on LLama they posted your button mod http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/mods/extra-3...ler-buttons.htm
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OK I GOT IT!!! It was that I soildered off those pads. Dam those pads mad.gif Anyways I want to thank Jeremy for the help and Foe Hammer that last post helped out alot. I gave up with it untill you said I might be hitting ground if I soildered past those circles. Thanks everybody!!! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 17 2006, 08:02 PM
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Took some BIG pics of it (the WIRED pad):

http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W1.JPG
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W2.JPG
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W3.JPG
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W4.JPG
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W5.JPG
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W6.JPG
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jeremydammit
Can you write what is ground and what is button on the markings I made in this pic please:
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W1mod.jpg

Thanks!
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post Jan 19 2006, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(TheRealNeoGeo @ Jan 18 2006, 08:35 PM) *

jeremydammit
Can you write what is ground and what is button on the markings I made in this pic please:
http://arkadesticks.com/360/360W1mod.jpg

Thanks!


I would also like to know. smile.gif
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Any news???
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Hey buddy, I submitted your tut to the main page....should have been on there months ago mad.gif

Nice shit!

And thanks for letting me borrow your other 360...even though you're gonna cost me 20-30 bucks cause I can't dare hook it up with composite cables. tongue.gif
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