Do You Think Games Like Gta Should Be Banned From Retail? Options

[cyberg4]

maybe parents need to learn what the big M stands for on the game cover, and no it's not munchkins, or Minature persons.
Maybe they should just have all M rated games contain a generic large "M" on thier cover, covering the crucial parts of an explict photo or a grusome picture, so that parents will stop buying this stuff for their 3 year old.

[AlexNapo]

Banning isn't the way to evolution.

Restricting forces will always create frustration and misunderstanding. You can't get a society to get to higher levels by banning. History is loaded of example of how banning things turned up to ( sex, alchool, ...) we should learn from our mistakes and lean forward to another solution...

Everone's liberty ends up where the other's start.

Get your own rules in your home. If the game developper pull up with some games that you don't like, just don't play them, but do not try to block a mature adult enjoying video games that can finally play one without a big monkey or a small boy with a large mustache. I don't think he's gonna get out and shoot the first cop he sees for that matters.

Freedom of speech: yes

Freddom of choice: double yes

[Joergen]

Sadly GTA3 and VC were one of the best, few, original and most next-gen titles of last-gen. Ban those and you ban a third of what gaming is at its best.

GTA type games can only get better with the X360 and PS3 but only in the hands of these talented developers like Rockstar who know what makes the games great, and its not just the sensless violence.

[Vayate]

retailers should have been enforcing the age limits on buying games in the first place. irresponsible parents should not be controlling what we can buy.

As opposed to... irresponsible Congress that knows nothing about what's good for the country? Remember, these idiots were ELECTED by those irresponsible parents en masse, and as a result there are very few who aren't completely incompetent (despite some flashes os semi-intelligence). Let people who know their kids decide what to do -- it's the parents' jobs to parent and raise their children, NOT Congress's, and Congress needs to remember that what may be good for their children isn't necessarily good for everyone's.

If nothing else, every time the government makes a choice for us, we lose a little bit of that American freedom we cherish so dearly. In principle, we should be much more careful about where and why we trade some of that freedom for stability and the good of the whole.

[nerd158]

censorship sucks

it should be up to the parents to pay attn to what their kids are playing

This post has been edited by nerd158: Dec 8 2005, 01:33 AM

[Sechy]

Should we ban R-rated movies? Should we get rid of the internet? Hell no, it is a freedom of speech. Yes it should be illegal for minors to buy the game but not only minors play video games. What needs to happen is that Media needs to stop addressing video games to be only for kids and think of it as a source of entertainment like movies. Just like they try to label cartoons are only for kids, this is not true. Look at the sales for Family Guy on DVD. Do you think that is from kids buying the DVD?

I think there should be a fine if a game is sold to a minor and should not be. This will help retail stores from selling it to kids. This should also be enforced with secret shoppers to see if they would sale to a kid.

If we ban video games because of content then we should ban TV, Movies, Music and all other source of entertainment all together.

[majik655]

Nothing like blamming others to make one self feel better.

Yup banning something because it "causes" people to do bad things is just like sueing a bartender because you drove home drunk and crashed.

It is soooo much easier to blame others than to take credit for being ignorant.



Would I mind if the stores stopped selling to under 18year olds.. NO that is the stores right and is a good way to help parents.
A store also has the right to refuse to carry anything it wants because it may not go with their style or whatever the reason it is their right. BUT TO MAKE A BAN ON ALL RETAIL CHAINS (that seems to be higher than just the stores making the decision.. it sounds like it would be LAW and that is wrong)

my 2 cents.

[xboxuser5]

It will never be banned and kinda silly to even bother becuase they would have to ban all the movies in the theater's ban all video store rental movies ban all other violent game's from all store's ban all violent arcade game's ban all porn etc. it will never happen the entertainment industry would crash and it is one of the thing's that keeps america's fund's well so no it will never happen and if it does it will not last long at all becuase there is to many comparible's to point a finger at one lol

[Megamil]

Sadly GTA3 and VC were one of the best, few, original and most next-gen titles of last-gen. Ban those and you ban a third of what gaming is at its best.

GTA type games can only get better with the X360 and PS3 but only in the hands of these talented developers like Rockstar who know what makes the games great, and its not just the sensless violence.

You must be kidding me. GTA3 and VC couldn't hold a candle to San Andreas. That game is top notch. From the things you can do to the atmosphere of the game. They created a masterpiece just like with GTA3 and VC. But to say that they are better than SA is crazy. I guess you didn't like the gangsta gangsta theme too much

Back to the topic:

They say Rated M for Mature for a reason. I thought it was stupid to change the rating from 17+ to 18 and over. I mean come on....I knew everything I knew at 18 and 17. Hell, I knew that same stuff at 16....lol

[†Øßߥ]

Freaking politicians are the ones who need to be ban, Who in the hell think they are when they telling us wat not to watch or play.
Remember they're the ones that take big $$$ money from hollywood and other big companys.
Long Live GTA, anyone want a cup of "coffee"?

[Jameson42]

The average age of gamers today is 28.

In Illinois, it is illegal for retailers to sell M-rated products to anyone under the age of 17 without parental consent. Retailers are required to ask for ID from anyone who looks younger than 50.

I work in retail, and I see tons of kids come through my store every day. Many of them without parents. Anyone who looks younger than 16 who comes in we ask them to come back with their parents. Many parents go to malls with their kids and use stores as a form of babysitting. I understand the reasoning - for example a mother wants to look at clothes, or a father's buying a present for his kids and doesn't want them to see, etc., etc... but I still think that there are a lot of parents out there who are not responsible. Many of them don't care if their kids play mature games, because "there's worse stuff on the news every night".

Gun, which is a horrible game on any system, is incredibly popular with children. I often have to describe to parents who come in asking for the game just what it contains. Some still buy it for their child because so-and-so's parents let him play it. So they think it's ok because his friend does it. Classic "Jump off a bridge" arguement.

I swear, people should be required to get licenced in order to parent. At least an IQ test.

[stanneh]

would love to hear from the 26 peaple that voted Yes

why?

[Mr.INSANE]

You must be kidding me. GTA3 and VC couldn't hold a candle to San Andreas. That game is top notch. From the things you can do to the atmosphere of the game. They created a masterpiece just like with GTA3 and VC. But to say that they are better than SA is crazy. I guess you didn't like the gangsta gangsta theme too much
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The guy has an opionion you know. Just becuase you say SA is better doesnt make it so.


Back to SA though
personally i could care less about the gangsta theme that actually pulled me out of the game. No offense but the whole story was pretty stupid. The game was pretty linear aswell ala I didnt want todo anything related to gangsta and stuff but your forced todo them if you want to get anywhere. I think SA was pretty much more of the same. There wherent any major plot changes and the games characters where horrible. Once again though this is an opionion which everyone is entitled to.

Back on Topic though

It is the parents fault but there are some other factors involved. Although parents should know what there children are doing many are usally working by todays standards thus making it hard to really know whats happening in there lives. The new law where only 18 year olds can buy M games is crap. This isnt going to help in anyway the problem is parents. Unfortanetly theres no real way to change that. There are some parents who really know whast going on and actually oppose that law. Being 15 My Idea on it may be a tad biased though since im angry i cant get the games (Considering most games are M anyways).

This also is kinda like the harry potter book thing people would burn the books and write angry letters. When all they really need todo is not buy the book. Sometimes for things like this theres a stupidly simple answer which parents tend to ignore. If you dont like the product dont buy it.

To sum it up for the lazy "If you dont like the product dont buy it"

[quarky42]

Good point. Maybe some parents are giving others a bad name in not knowing how to read labels. How about a big letter R dripping in blood on the cover to show that the game is restricted. Maybe M is too confusing for them. If the dripping letter R doesn't get their attention, maybe a small capacitor built into the case that gives the people that pick it up a significant electric shock to WAKE THEM UP enough to pay attention to what they are doing. (Heheh maybe it'll wake up the clerk to check for ID while they are at it.)

maybe parents need to learn what the big M stands for on the game cover, and no it's not munchkins, or Minature persons.
Maybe they should just have all M rated games contain a generic large "M" on thier cover, covering the crucial parts of an explict photo or a grusome picture, so that parents will stop buying this stuff for their 3 year old.

[quarky42]

This isnt going to help in anyway the problem is parents. Unfortanetly theres no real way to change that.

That is definately one way of looking at it. I disagree though. Perhaps making parents more responsible for the actions of their "little darlings" might force them to make dealing with their kids a priority. Working hard is hardly an excuse for why their kid turned into a *ickf4ce. Your kid doesn't know right from wrong, goes out and severely harms someone or kills them legal guardian doesn't pass go, doesn't collect $200, and goes straight to prison for a couple years. You ask what happens to the kid? Good question. Give them two choices. 1> Work their ass off helping the community, probation, and tons of supervised community service (and after so many hours of community service they reduce their parents' sentance) or 2> they can go to prison where someone else will work their ass off. Their choice.

I like tollerating lots of things: People's unique differences, races, religions, free speech... and much more. I am very intollerant of kids that haven't been taught the rough life lessons my parents whupped into me. Ya I was spanked when I screwed up. I learned there were consequences to life. "parents are too busy" does not excuse them from making their kids education (life lessons) a major priority.

Just like we shouldn't tollerate our rights being taken away from us, I don't think we should tollerate parents making excuses for why they couldn't do their job. Is their child growing up to be a strong individual that knows right and wrong less important than anything else in life? I dare say it is the most important thing a parent can do for their kid. Work pays the bills. Money does you know good if your little darling is in jail or prison. (well I guess you could send them a pack of cigarettes)