Xbox Live To Target Hackers, MS will detect mod chips Options

[msav]

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-956785.html


just read this ....interesting, we may be screwed


my title should have said .. MS may detect mod chips

[domeinator]

you should have installed a switch

[msav]

will be installing it tonight ...


BTW do you know which wire on the enigmah i need to put the switch in on ..


thanks..

mark

[cONEction]

QUOTE (msav @ Sep 6 2002, 10:14 PM)

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-956785.html just read this ....interesting, we may be screwed my title should have said .. MS may detect mod chips

If you have pc-bioxx installed , then dont worry, soon or later a bios will be released which has the stealth abbility (undetectable)

[kanchke]

If you have pc-bioxx installed and didn't soldered the 10the wire, you can boot up using the M$ bios just by pushing/holding the eject button

or am I mistaken ?

[Drakull]

No Bios will be released that won't be detectable by MS... as long as the bios allows running unsigned code, detection is as easy as sending an unsigned executable to the xbox that will send the serial no. to MS. If the xbox does not allow running unsigned code it'll be ok... as they say... you can have a modded xbox... but you'll be running original games... if the unsigned code works then you're using a chip... bad thing...
They're also probably sending programs to the xbox for changing the default.xbe file or checking it... so if you change it with evolutionX you're also caught...
Also... if you've installed a new HD... how will you save games on the HD if you disable the modchip.... or how are you going to use the xbox hd after disabling the modchip???

Regards,
Drakull

[echto]

QUOTE (msav @ Sep 6 2002, 05:32 PM)

will be installing it tonight ... BTW do you know which wire on the enigmah i need to put the switch in on .. thanks.. mark

15 and 21 according to the tutorials.

[alee132]

QUOTE (Drakull @ Sep 8 2002, 07:26 PM)

No Bios will be released that won't be detectable by MS... as long as the bios allows running unsigned code, detection is as easy as sending an unsigned executable to the xbox that will send the serial no. to MS. If the xbox does not allow running unsigned code it'll be ok... as they say... you can have a modded xbox... but you'll be running original games... if the unsigned code works then you're using a chip... bad thing... They're also probably sending programs to the xbox for changing the default.xbe file or checking it... so if you change it with evolutionX you're also caught... Also... if you've installed a new HD... how will you save games on the HD if you disable the modchip.... or how are you going to use the xbox hd after disabling the modchip??? Regards, Drakull

Wow, never thought of that, I dont think they will go through the trouble though.

[opjose]

Everyone who is hyped up over this, sit down and take a pill!


C/Net was late catching the "mod" clause in their Live contract, so they are merely speculating.


MS had planned on putting this in all along. In spite of the legalese they PUBLICALLY announced that they would NOT target mod chips.

Rather they would be looking for original games in the DVD.


Their announcement carries more weight than anything else. Reversing course now would put them in hot water in many ways.

MS also has been rather freaked out over the shear number of mod chips that are out there (and yes they are reacting to the "unusual WalMart returns" too). This is why they are looking into the Mod chip tech w/potential ways to defeat it.

[toasted69]

just buy anoher xbox they gonna be 150 if you so wrried bout modchip detction or even simpler stay away from xbox live you can still use gamespy

[GTac01]

exactly, just use gamespy, or dont play online at all. No problem for me, i can still play multiplayer at home.

I just talked to a rep, he said that beta doesnt check chips, but x-live will have chip detection. Now think about that, they are seeing how the chips work, and analizing in xlive beta, to make x-live against chips.

[Questioner]

They are not analysing anything of that sort in the beta test. The current Live is fairly bug free and it doesn't
seem like MS is going to be adding much before the official launch so something like bios checks seems unlikely. And in case you haven't noticed, reps don't know crap and have been wrong 99 percent of the time.

Also, it doesn't seem as if a version check on Live is done when you load it from within a game. So the version I'm beta testing now could very well work for months upon months. We'll find out when MS sends us updated software, but since it would be impossible to send everyone an updated version on the same day, I doubt older versions will stop working.

[youngdragon2010]

I have received my beta kit it states it on page 8. They do random scannings.

Luckily, I have 2 xbox system. One modded and one legit.

[youngdragon2010]

If you people still want to play online, I am still testing our software called X-Tunnels (simular to gamespys tunnel software for the xbox) which will be available for download in 3-5 weeks. So far, we are working on the lagging problems when you have a lot on the screen at one time blowing up. We are planning to run our on Online Gaming Site. Free of course. One of its best features is you do not need a pc to connect to the internet. You do need to add a static internal Ip address and your ISP's DNS.

[msav]

questioner

this article thinks that it won't be like that for long

http://slashdot.org/articles/02/09/08/2223...3.shtml?tid=127



mark