Pandora, Oh If I only knew ....... Options

[cashkid]

Oh If I only knew python, I would. Yes I would.
Pandora.
I got to learn it now for this.

[mike315]

Oh If I only knew python, I would. Yes I would.
Pandora.
I got to learn it now for this.

eh not sure it would be possible...it uses a flash player:

https://www.pandora.com:443/radio/tuner_6_7_0_1.swf

There doesn't seem to be a magical way to extract the actually stream url...and there's no telling what type of stream it is........perhaps someone can decompile it and see whats up. dont hold your breath.

EDIT:

Nevermind what I typed above...check this out: http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/174

& http://www.digg.com/music/Pandora_streamin...ur_TEMP_folder_

Looks like you can build your Music collection offa this site...not that I condone piracy lol...

This post has been edited by mike315: Feb 14 2006, 05:26 PM

[DigiGuru]

So, it would appear, looking at the blogs, what we need is the following:

The flash player for XMBC (it doesn't play audio, but that theoretically doesn't matter)
The ability to intercept the headers
Download/Cache the MP3 file from the header
As soon as the next request comes in, cache that and queue it for download too.
Keep adding these files to a growing playlist

In order to keep up with a form of privacy or to not invalidate Pandora's licensing, the script could "flush" the cache on close.

The only problem is that the MP3 streams that are downloaded DONT contain any ID3 information, so someone would need to find a way to extract the text from the flash file

Stu

[raid517]

I really hope someone picks up on this idea.

GJ

[effinboy]

So do I, I listen to this website... DAILY.

[vulgusprofanum]

i'm not really familiar with pandora, but assume it's about the same as last.fm. (which is awsome) so ... that's already partially supported by xbmc, (submitting listned songs to database) but no support for last.fm radio. the radio is great (quality and function) and it's open source. so, anyway, someone should integrate this into xbmc for a great "learning" web-radio. should be easier than dealing with that flash crap.

[raid517]

Hell yeah if I was given a choice, I would always choose lastFM first. I was under the impression that XBMC had full lastFM support? I thought it was the radio? Hell I even bough a modchip when I heard it.

We definitely need either LastFM support, or Pandora support, or both for the Xbox. There are guys paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars for Sonos type Internet radio players. The Xbox should be more than capable of handling this and would make an awesome LastFM hardware based radio player.

GJ

This post has been edited by raid517: Apr 1 2006, 03:27 AM

[gregers]

The flash player for XMBC (it doesn't play audio, but that theoretically doesn't matter)

rewrite flash client in python instead (haven't checked what possibilities you have with python on XBMC, but I suppose it should work)

The ability to intercept the headers

just download the xml (see below)

Download/Cache the MP3 file from the header

you'll find a link to the mp3 file in the xml

As soon as the next request comes in, cache that and queue it for download too.

In the HTTP protocol, only the client sends requests. The xml file contains a list of songs, including one (or more) ahead of the one you're listening too. When at the end of a song, start playing the next (already downloaded), then download the xml again to get the url for the following song.

The only problem is that the MP3 streams that are downloaded DONT contain any ID3 information, so someone would need to find a way to extract the text from the flash file

The data is in the xml


I've been thinking about making this for a while, but unfortunately I don't have the time. I think it is easier than you think. If you use a packet sniffer (or LiveHttpHeader for Firefox) you can se how the Pandora flash client interacts with the server. It's just regular HTTP protocol. You will see that the client requests an xml file from the server. This contains a list of song data, including what you are missing in the ID3 (artist, album title, song title, category) as well as link to amazon, itunes, music.com, album cover image, and link to the mp3 file.

If I were to make a plugin for XBMC, I would make my own GUI that communicates with the pandora server in the same way as the flash client does. This way we don't need a XBMC flash player

It's probably a good idea to contact Pandora, asking them what they require to have a friendly relationship with them.

Haven't really looked into the validation, but I might be able to help if someone wants to make an XBMC plugin...

[timdog82001]

Holy crap. Somebody PLEASE make a script for this, this is insanely cool, and would be a HUGE addition to xbmc. I wish I could do it, but unfortunately I don't know the first thing about python.

[wassabi]

Not sure if this helps, but they have a thing for winamp.
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/05/l...-in-winamp.html

CODE

If you have the latest version of Winamp (namely, 5.21), you can add Pandora, a great online personalized radio, to Media Library.

Close Winamp, open
C:\Program Files\ Winamp\Plugins\ml \ml_online.ini (change the location if you've installed Winamp elsewhere).

Replace this line

ElementID7=-1

with

ElementID7=7000
ElementIcon7=11003
ElementSubbed7=1
ElementName7=Pandora
ElementURL7=http://www.pandora.com/?cmd=tunermini
ElementID8=-1

When you open Winamp again, go to Media Library/Online Services/Pandora. If you haven't got an account, you should make one. You can close Media Library and still listen to your radio.

[mike315]

Not sure if this helps, but they have a thing for winamp.
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2006/05/l...-in-winamp.html

doesnt help too much unfortunately...the media library window in winamp can be used for an embedded IE webpage. and thats all thats really going on there, just another IE window running the pandora flash player.



This post has been edited by mike315: May 12 2006, 10:38 PM

[Ph33r_Bob]

i decompiled the tuner.

download here

http://rapidshare.de/files/23068604/tuner_7_0_0_0.rar.html

This post has been edited by Ph33r_Bob: Jun 14 2006, 08:35 PM

[Meschke]

yeah, i definatly agree this would be a great addition to xbmc

if someones gets this goin i'll help alpha, or beta test:)

[morde]

Any progress on a pandora plugin?

[fdrzrich]

I just registered at Pandora (nicked a zip code of some random US company as it only allows US codes!) and think its a great idea! Been listening to loads of songs I would never normally have heard of...

It NEEDS to be created for XBMC.....If only I knew how! Please