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> Is Anyone Seriously Trying To Get A Full Windows Kernel Running?, seriously, i'd do it myself if i were legally allowed
torne
post Feb 22 2006, 04:30 PM
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Yes, I have read the stickies, and other long tedious posts filled with criticism. wink.gif

It would be amusing to see a full Windows boot on the Xbox, and there doesn't seem to be that much to do tbh: poke the kernel/HAL/etc to not touch the bits of the address space and PCI bus that kill the machine, and then write a couple of drivers (graphics, mostly, much of the rest of the hardware should be supported). The latter is pretty easy; the Linux port's drivers are there as a reference for how to program the hardware.

Is anyone seriously looking at fixing the kernel/HAL to avoid the hardware bugs? It's only a couple of megs of code, with full symbolic information available...
I'd do it myself but I have access to, and have spent a lot of time working with, the Windows source (legally under signed NDA) and thus it's extremely dubious for me to reverse-engineer the Windows kernel - I am 'tainted' and would get the project in legal difficulties =(

If the fixes to the existing binaries are done I'd be interested to help write the few required drivers, which would not be subject to such restrictions..
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post Jun 25 2007, 03:04 AM
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I understand that you can't get xp running on the xbox
What about Windows Fundamentals?
Or I heard tiny Xp?
I think I going to try this.
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post Jun 25 2007, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(silentnite2608 @ Jun 25 2007, 03:40 AM) *

I understand that you can't get xp running on the xbox
What about Windows Fundamentals?
Or I heard tiny Xp?
I think I going to try this.

This is unrelated to the topic being discussed here smile.gif The reasons you can't run Windows natively on the Xbox are unrelated to how much RAM or other resources are required (the OS simply expects things to exist which don't, like a PC BIOS).

If you want to run Windows under QEMU on Linux, then yes, using one of the cut-down versions of XP is a good plan, but that's nothing to do with this topic.
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torne   Is Anyone Seriously Trying To Get A Full Windows Kernel Running?   Feb 22 2006, 04:30 PM
x-fox   Well if you are saying you have access to the wind...   Feb 23 2006, 02:44 AM
torne   Well if you are saying you have access to the win...   Feb 23 2006, 05:44 PM
nt authority   As for you, "nt authority", suggesting...   Feb 24 2006, 03:22 AM
torne   I am currently working within a team of consultan...   Feb 24 2006, 02:12 PM
x-fox   Looks like the answer to my question is 'nobo...   Feb 25 2006, 06:49 AM
torne   This windows forum has been seriously pruned of l...   Feb 25 2006, 01:59 PM
windowsex   I asked because I'd like to help someone do i...   Feb 25 2006, 07:08 PM
torne   I hereby sign myself up for this role; lets sta...   Feb 25 2006, 07:49 PM
nt authority   WINDOWS SOURCE CODE FOR BOTH NT4 AND WIN2K BUILDS ...   Feb 23 2006, 09:31 AM
nt authority   Anyway, to keep things simple and after reading th...   Feb 24 2006, 04:37 AM
nt authority   all i ask: torne could you (or anyone here) pleas...   Mar 14 2006, 05:40 PM
torne   whilst remaining within the xboxkrnl would it be ...   Mar 15 2006, 06:02 PM
windowsex   You're confusing several issues. You would ne...   May 8 2007, 10:41 PM
torne   Let's not bother writing a new boot loader as...   May 9 2007, 11:50 AM
nt authority   ok, just to make my question clear, i thought i wo...   Mar 15 2006, 09:29 AM
torne   With WinCE.NET (proof of concept) for the XBOX, a...   Mar 15 2006, 06:14 PM
nt authority   Thanks for your answer Torne. Again, I wish to r...   Mar 16 2006, 09:22 AM
torne   Assuming we wish to boot into Windows Preinstalla...   Mar 16 2006, 11:44 AM
edude03   Here's My (somewhat stupid Probably) Idea. We...   Apr 4 2006, 05:07 PM
torne   Here's My (somewhat stupid Probably) Idea. W...   Apr 6 2006, 04:00 PM
Trav41514   why start hard, i'm starting a project on port...   Jun 25 2006, 09:19 AM
torne   Porting DOS would be harder, not easier. Getting r...   Jun 25 2006, 03:30 PM
Trav41514   People said the same thing about windows but now...   Jun 25 2006, 11:29 PM
Trav41514   Wouldn't it be possible to decompile the curre...   Jun 25 2006, 11:54 PM
torne   People said the same thing about windows but now ...   Jun 26 2006, 09:56 AM
m0dul4rX 2   You know, technically Windows is already on Xbo...   Jun 26 2006, 10:48 AM
torne   You know, technically Windows is already on Xb...   Jun 28 2006, 12:17 PM
gronne   Ok, Torne. You seem to have an incredible understa...   Jul 5 2006, 01:18 PM
torne   Ok, Torne. You seem to have an incredible underst...   Jul 6 2006, 01:46 PM
Trav41514   the real reason i want to get DOS up and running i...   Jul 7 2006, 12:45 AM
torne   the real reason i want to get DOS up and running ...   Jul 7 2006, 12:39 PM
Trav41514   Both require NTLDR to bootstrap themselves (which...   Jul 9 2006, 04:09 AM
veeper   thats the plan ;-) why does the xbox lock up whe...   Jul 9 2006, 01:32 PM
torne   thats the plan ;-) So you're going to write ...   Jul 10 2006, 02:39 PM
SupeRdUPErBlakE   NERDS! =D The vpiu address isn't valid wh...   Jul 18 2006, 01:27 PM
Micjohvan   Im not here to actually help with this discussion ...   May 18 2007, 05:56 AM
WindowsOCManage   This is unrelated to the topic being discussed he...   Oct 13 2009, 01:53 PM
silentnite2608   Sorry just putting out my idea. Will try to find r...   Jun 25 2007, 11:45 PM
torne   Sorry just putting out my idea. Will try to find ...   Jun 26 2007, 11:31 AM
torne   How are you going to bring the kernel up in the fi...   Oct 13 2009, 05:19 PM
WindowsOCManage   How are you going to bring the kernel up in the f...   Oct 13 2009, 10:01 PM
torne   Sounds good. Let us know how it goes.   Oct 14 2009, 10:50 AM
2 Bunny   Wow torne, you really kept following this thread...   Oct 20 2009, 01:52 AM
torne   I check back on the windows on xbox board occasion...   Oct 21 2009, 03:01 PM
2 Bunny   I check back on the windows on xbox board occasio...   Oct 21 2009, 10:14 PM
obcd   It's possible to create a linair framebuffer o...   Oct 21 2009, 10:27 PM
2 Bunny   It's possible to create a linair framebuffer ...   Oct 22 2009, 02:24 AM
torne   obcd: The guy wants to do it, don't shoot it d...   Oct 22 2009, 01:29 PM
2 Bunny   obcd: The guy wants to do it, don't shoot it ...   Oct 22 2009, 09:06 PM
obcd   I am sorry if my reply is seen as shooting his ide...   Oct 22 2009, 07:32 PM
obcd   Most devices on the market like pocket pc's an...   Oct 23 2009, 08:37 AM
pdidd   i think the easiest thing to do is use xdsl. u ca...   Oct 23 2009, 05:57 PM
2 Bunny   i think the easiest thing to do is use xdsl. u c...   Oct 23 2009, 09:13 PM
pdidd   nah i don't believe it. when i had no money i ...   Oct 24 2009, 02:49 AM
worldwhore3   dsl is farrr from flaky. you need to invest the t...   Oct 24 2009, 07:45 AM
2 Bunny   dsl is farrr from flaky. you need to invest the ...   Oct 24 2009, 05:49 PM
pdidd   Then why is it that I cannot even browse to the o...   Oct 24 2009, 06:31 PM
2 Bunny   i never had any problem. maybe its your hard dr...   Oct 25 2009, 07:00 PM
obcd   I guess it all depends a bit upon what you are try...   Oct 24 2009, 09:32 AM
petemcfc   Why is it so important for you to run Windows on a...   Oct 26 2009, 12:45 AM
2 Bunny   Why is it so important for you to run Windows on ...   Oct 26 2009, 01:52 AM
obcd   defragmentation usually doesn't give the expec...   Oct 26 2009, 09:55 AM
petemcfc   Yep,enough said. Two other free tools available ar...   Oct 26 2009, 10:33 AM
2 Bunny   Yep,enough said. Two other free tools available a...   Oct 26 2009, 10:39 PM
petemcfc   Your posts have gone from amusing to tiring,and ve...   Oct 29 2009, 01:50 AM
2 Bunny   Your posts have gone from amusing to tiring,and v...   Oct 29 2009, 10:50 PM
Heimdall   No, I am not a troll. But I am sure you are. Name ...   Oct 30 2009, 01:16 AM
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petemcfc   Blimey. Thats me well ticked off then. Yawn-matter...   Oct 30 2009, 02:18 AM
torne   Can you all just shut up unless you have something...   Oct 30 2009, 12:59 PM
torne   "Can you all just shut up" includes you ...   Nov 4 2009, 12:06 PM
2 Bunny   "Can you all just shut up" includes you...   Nov 4 2009, 09:43 PM
run088   Virtualbox on xdsl should run windows ok atleast o...   Nov 5 2009, 11:27 AM
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run088   Nice. So you're saying that with the ram upgr...   Nov 6 2009, 02:11 PM
run088   Can't comfirm just yet but I think that I wil...   Nov 6 2009, 07:00 PM
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