Is Anyone Seriously Trying To Get A Full Windows Kernel Running?, seriously, i'd do it myself if i were legally allowed Options

[run088]

Virtualbox on xdsl should run windows ok atleast on a 128mg xbox. I got 98 running awhile back a full install on a 2.6.18 kernel before I broke the kernel trying to upgrade other packages for other apps. It ran as good running 98 as another pc I have, that pc runs xp now. That machine sports a 400mhz processor and 296mgs of ram. Most virtual machines ask for 128mgs of ram to run xp. I have tried it on virtual machines and it is enough to get it going. I have been trying to get it to run on a 2.4.31 but I am having trouble right now matching up the kernel sources for dkms which is a requirement to run. It ran good besides problems with the colors which I have with most apps and the desktop running 2.6 kernel. That is why I want it on the 2.4 everything thing that runs on the 2.6 runs way better on the 2.4. I learned that if you install a 2.6 kernel you can still boot from the 2.4 and have the functionality of the 2.6 with the speed of the 2.4

I managed to get one of the programs that bogs my xp machine down the most compiled in xdsl which is sabnzbdplus 4.12 it runs as good as my pc does running the app. Right now I am ftping 10gigs from it while sabnzbd is downloading 3 gigs and the xbox isnt choking or missing a beat. With what I have seen based on performance I believe that atleast with virtualbox xp is a possibility.


Another idea I have is to patch openmosix to the 2.4 kernel and compile virtualbox to run parallel. This way you could cluster xboxs and ram or power will never be an issue. I would think it would take a great number of xboxes before latency becomes an issue.

[2 Bunny]

Virtualbox on xdsl should run windows ok atleast on a 128mg xbox. I got 98 running awhile back a full install on a 2.6.18 kernel before I broke the kernel trying to upgrade other packages for other apps. It ran as good running 98 as another pc I have, that pc runs xp now. That machine sports a 400mhz processor and 296mgs of ram. Most virtual machines ask for 128mgs of ram to run xp. I have tried it on virtual machines and it is enough to get it going. I have been trying to get it to run on a 2.4.31 but I am having trouble right now matching up the kernel sources for dkms which is a requirement to run. It ran good besides problems with the colors which I have with most apps and the desktop running 2.6 kernel. That is why I want it on the 2.4 everything thing that runs on the 2.6 runs way better on the 2.4. I learned that if you install a 2.6 kernel you can still boot from the 2.4 and have the functionality of the 2.6 with the speed of the 2.4

I managed to get one of the programs that bogs my xp machine down the most compiled in xdsl which is sabnzbdplus 4.12 it runs as good as my pc does running the app. Right now I am ftping 10gigs from it while sabnzbd is downloading 3 gigs and the xbox isnt choking or missing a beat. With what I have seen based on performance I believe that atleast with virtualbox xp is a possibility.


Another idea I have is to patch openmosix to the 2.4 kernel and compile virtualbox to run parallel. This way you could cluster xboxs and ram or power will never be an issue. I would think it would take a great number of xboxes before latency becomes an issue.

Nice. So you're saying that with the ram upgrade, that we could emulate Windows the way we already have because it would have 75mb to work with (or so) instead of eleven or whatever it is by default?

- 2 Bunny

[run088]

Nice. So you're saying that with the ram upgrade, that we could emulate Windows the way we already have because it would have 75mb to work with (or so) instead of eleven or whatever it is by default?

- 2 Bunny

Can't comfirm just yet but I think that I will be able to run a full install of xp on virtualbox

[run088]

Can't comfirm just yet but I think that I will be able to run a full install of xp on virtualbox

I can now comfirm about xp and virtualbox on a 2.6.18 kernel. It does not run bad but it takes some time to switch the mouse and keyboard capture on and off. I am writing this post from xp running on xdsl with a 2.6.18 kernel on an xbox with a 128mg ram upgrade. My settings are 81mgs of ram and 4 for the video. The rest is standard settings. I have no idea at this point how much leadway those numbers have but with the factory settings for this build of virtualbox "from the sarge repositories found at the virtualbox site" of 192ram and 8 of video froze the xbox. I chopped those numbers on a first attempt to what they are now and it fired right up. It should run better as well on a lighter package setup than what I currently have installed. I got xdsl built to the gills and alot of stuff running in the background. Plus if I could get it to work on a 2.4 kernel it would run better to. Not to say it runs bad because it is not bad just saying a system could be built solely around it and it would be more effecient than what I have currently installed. I found out what the problem I was having with the 2.6 kernel and the color problems of the desktop. I just needed to install xorg. After I installed xorg from the xdsl-upgrades it cleared the problem up on both the 2.6 kernels I have installed.

This post has been edited by run088: Nov 6 2009, 07:02 PM

[2 Bunny]

I can now comfirm about xp and virtualbox on a 2.6.18 kernel. It does not run bad but it takes some time to switch the mouse and keyboard capture on and off. I am writing this post from xp running on xdsl with a 2.6.18 kernel on an xbox with a 128mg ram upgrade. My settings are 81mgs of ram and 4 for the video. The rest is standard settings. I have no idea at this point how much leadway those numbers have but with the factory settings for this build of virtualbox "from the sarge repositories found at the virtualbox site" of 192ram and 8 of video froze the xbox. I chopped those numbers on a first attempt to what they are now and it fired right up. It should run better as well on a lighter package setup than what I currently have installed. I got xdsl built to the gills and alot of stuff running in the background. Plus if I could get it to work on a 2.4 kernel it would run better to. Not to say it runs bad because it is not bad just saying a system could be built solely around it and it would be more effecient than what I have currently installed. I found out what the problem I was having with the 2.6 kernel and the color problems of the desktop. I just needed to install xorg. After I installed xorg from the xdsl-upgrades it cleared the problem up on both the 2.6 kernels I have installed.

Nice! Just out of curiosity, how much of a performance boost does the extra ram give you? Is it really noticeable? Can you get it in different quantities than just 128? Is it even available anywhere at a cost effective rate anymore?

- 2 Bunny

[worldwhore3]

...Just try to navigate to the official firefox download page, and try downloading it.

first of all, to download firefox you should use the mydsl browser function and download the correct version from the linux repository. were you owned by "downloading"?

i like how you try to decide when we should all get back "on topic". it usually seems to be after a number of people have began proving you wrong and you are running out of snide comments. if you had logical coments, you wouldnt need to revert to arrogance and smart-talk.

by the way, with this small update in xp on th xbox, you still will *not* be able to play your old windows games with any level of satisfaction.

i and many other users have had no probelms with this "sluggishness" that you describe. after a while, i think its time to chalk it up to user errors, and not system errors. i think you need santa claus to bring you home a nice, shiny new mac for christmas this year. im sure mommy and daddy figure youve been a good boy. now the internet, we know you havent been a good boy.

...I actually do use a startup control program called StartupCop Pro.

anyone worth his grain of salt would suggest checking your startup options manually thru MSCONIG and checking your services list. as a general rule, installing other programs to maintain your system is bad practice because you are adding further RAM load to your system. there are many great registry cleaners available too. CCLeaner is a great all around program for checking your system with a simple click.

...Can you get it in different quantities than just 128? Is it even available anywhere at a cost effective rate anymore?

have you ever read into ram upgrading around here? cost effective to do? consider this: you buy a used xbox for 20 or 30 dollars, you then take out the ram and put it in your system. sound cost effective enough? as for going beyond 128, ill let you try to do it on your own.

most of your conversation here is all you talking as if youre going to do something and never doing it anyway. why do you even ask?

...I just can't stand liars who don't know what they're talking about.

you calling heimdall, someone with tons more experience on anything xbox related than you, a liar. this proves that you do not know what you are talking about.

it amazes me how you are still here. im sure its just a matter of time before the admins knock you off your arrogant pedestal. an ip ban will probably be in your future. if i were you, i would assume i was on notice with all of the BS commontion you cause around here. better start asking how to circumvent your ip address here while you still have a chance!

http://clubpenguin.wikia.com/wiki/User:2_Bunny

2 Bunny understands that some people have “temper tantrums”, which was performed courtesy of the “penguin wiki” administration, who usually remove this user page (in case you don’t see it).

is this you? hmmm.... what an "amazing" person, indeed.


This post has been edited by worldwhore3: Nov 7 2009, 12:35 AM

[petemcfc]

May I suggest TOR or a generous application of gaffa tape.

[2 Bunny]

NOTE: Due to the large use of tags in this post, the quote tag will not work. Please "sift" through the post. I will color code it to help out; spam in red, normal posts in black text.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

first of all, to download firefox you should use the mydsl browser function and download the correct version from the linux repository. were you owned by "downloading"?

i like how you try to decide when we should all get back "on topic". it usually seems to be after a number of people have began proving you wrong and you are running out of snide comments. if you had logical coments, you wouldnt need to revert to arrogance and smart-talk.

by the way, with this small update in xp on th xbox, you still will *not* be able to play your old windows games with any level of satisfaction.

i and many other users have had no probelms with this "sluggishness" that you describe. after a while, i think its time to chalk it up to user errors, and not system errors. i think you need santa claus to bring you home a nice, shiny new mac for christmas this year. im sure mommy and daddy figure youve been a good boy. now the internet, we know you havent been a good boy.


anyone worth his grain of salt would suggest checking your startup options manually thru MSCONIG and checking your services list. as a general rule, installing other programs to maintain your system is bad practice because you are adding further RAM load to your system. there are many great registry cleaners available too. CCLeaner is a great all around program for checking your system with a simple click.


have you ever read into ram upgrading around here? cost effective to do? consider this: you buy a used xbox for 20 or 30 dollars, you then take out the ram and put it in your system. sound cost effective enough? as for going beyond 128, ill let you try to do it on your own.

most of your conversation here is all you talking as if youre going to do something and never doing it anyway. why do you even ask?


you calling heimdall, someone with tons more experience on anything xbox related than you, a liar. this proves that you do not know what you are talking about.

it amazes me how you are still here. im sure its just a matter of time before the admins knock you off your arrogant pedestal. an ip ban will probably be in your future. if i were you, i would assume i was on notice with all of the BS commontion you cause around here. better start asking how to circumvent your ip address here while you still have a chance!


is this you? hmmm.... what an "amazing" person, indeed.
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A "reply" you say? Well, since I would hate to disobey the rules, normally I wouldn't have to reply to your BS again. *Sigh* It REALLY gets old, but here goes:

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

first of all, to download firefox you should use the mydsl browser function and download the correct version from the linux repository. were you owned by "downloading"?
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On that, you are right, maybe I am not "up to snuff" on my Linux knowledge. Then again, I was just proving a point.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']


i like how you try to decide when we should all get back "on topic". it usually seems to be after a number of people have began proving you wrong and you are running out of snide comments. if you had logical coments, you wouldnt need to revert to arrogance and smart-talk.

[/quote]

All right, sorry about that. Just can't decide if I am going to counter your nonsense or follow the rules and stay on topic. It's a hard choice to make.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']


by the way, with this small update in xp on th xbox, you still will *not* be able to play your old windows games with any level of satisfaction.

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I kinda sorta figured that. Less than a hundred megabytes of ram doesn't exactly help either, even with that AMAZING upgrade (<- note the sarcasm, I know you have a hard time recognizing it).

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']


i and many other users have had no probelms with this "sluggishness" that you describe. after a while, i think its time to chalk it up to user errors, and not system errors. i think you need santa claus to bring you home a nice, shiny new mac for christmas this year. im sure mommy and daddy figure youve been a good boy. now the internet, we know you havent been a good boy.

[/quote]

No probelms? I had no "probelms" either. Hmm, I don't think it is my xBox. (GAP <Sarcasm< and >Serious> ) What would I possibly do different than you? Seriously though, do you need to do a loopback/native install maybe perhaps? Do you maybe have that ram upgrade?
I really don't want santa claus to bring me home a "Shiny New Apple Macintosh" because I spend enough time on the internet anyway having to take care of all your crap.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

anyone worth his grain of salt would suggest checking your startup options manually thru MSCONIG and checking your services list. as a general rule, installing other programs to maintain your system is bad practice because you are adding further RAM load to your system. there are many great registry cleaners available too. CCLeaner is a great all around program for checking your system with a simple click.

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Yeah, you need to understand though MSCONFIG (which I have used before, by the way) is not nearly as powerful or customizable. You have many more options with StartupCop Pro. Yes, I use C Cleaner, AVG, SpyBot, and Disk Defragment regularly.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']


have you ever read into ram upgrading around here? cost effective to do? consider this: you buy a used xbox for 20 or 30 dollars, you then take out the ram and put it in your system. sound cost effective enough? as for going beyond 128, ill let you try to do it on your own.

[/quote]

No, I have not read into it. I am just a very spontaneous person, nor am I that adventurous. Don't be a smart aleck.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']


you calling heimdall, someone with tons more experience on anything xbox related than you, a liar. this proves that you do not know what you are talking about.
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Another lie. I was talking to torne, about YOU, not to heimdall about heimdall. Learn to read my confused little friend.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

it amazes me how you are still here.
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You're alone on that one.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

im sure its just a matter of time before the admins knock you off your arrogant pedestal.
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Sorry, haven't got one. Maybe they'll knock you off yours and give it to me. I'd probably burn it though. Great firewood.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

an ip ban will probably be in your future.
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Doubt it. Highly. Very Highly.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

if i were you, i would assume i was on notice with all of the BS commontion you cause around here.
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Not at all actually. Only yours to worry about.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']

better start asking how to circumvent your ip address here while you still have a chance!

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I don't need to.

[quote name='worldwhore3' date='Nov 6 2009, 06:20 PM' post='4559093']




is this you? hmmm.... what an amazing person, indeed.
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If you want to continue that argument in a personal message, I would be more than glad to do so. That is just a wee bit too off topic to discuss here. We just had a little mix up on there.





For the rest of you, I do hope you keep up your good posting and ignoring the retard who I had to quote a million times in this post. I hope that you all can manage to stay on topic and learn a thing or two about xBox and Windows. I apologize for the rude remarks from this retard that I have to reply to what seems like every week, and I can assure you that he will try to stay more on top- wait. He won't. But I personally will. The 2 Bunny "Pledge" of good postmanship.

So, did run088 make any more progress?

- 2 Bunny


This post has been edited by 2 Bunny: Nov 7 2009, 03:14 AM

[run088]

I have managed to succeed in what I set out to do as far as that goes. I was really only interested in getting a few apps running that are not cross-platform. Mainly relax file sharing and magic jack. I should now be able to build me a custom xbox to handle just those tasks. This mod will only be useful for this type of purpose. The more I use linux the more it becomes the operating system of my choice anyway. I really only use windows to do tasks that I can't do in linux or tasks I have not learned to do in linux yet.

I will tell you what I thought is really cool. When you run virtualbox in seamless mode it integrates the linux and windows desktops together. Meaning that the desktop was the linux desktop but the bottom ribbon was xp and so was the start menu. You can access anything running xp threw the start menu or access anything in linux by an icon on the desktop or by right clicking on the desktop. I am going to build me a custom distro to run just like this on my pc. It should run as a fully functional duel desktop environment. DSL will be perfect to use because it is fully functional but so small. It is also debian based so it can be installed native and you can customize it from the ground up.

[worldwhore3]

bun, you're really not 'up to snuff' on anything, in all honesty.

run, using magicjack via a windows emulation is a great idea. i have read that unfortunately, magic jack wont port directly to linux systems, and for what its worth, its really a great phone system. thinking of it, using an old box as a magic jack server is a great idea.

oh yeah, not to miss bun on my way out: call me when you figure out those razor blades.

[2 Bunny]

bun, you're really not 'up to snuff' on anything, in all honesty.

run, using magicjack via a windows emulation is a great idea. i have read that unfortunately, magic jack wont port directly to linux systems, and for what its worth, its really a great phone system. thinking of it, using an old box as a magic jack server is a great idea.

oh yeah, not to miss bun on my way out: call me when you figure out those razor blades.

So it's "bun"? I think I'll call you "Gargamel" (See Link). MagicJack? Looks like some kind of scam to me. Does it really work?

- 2 Bunny

[run088]

Magic jack is no scam. It works very well. It cost $40 dollars to buy it and that includes a 1 year subscription. Then in all future years it cost $20 dollars annually. You cant beat it for the money to have a home phone. My college professor is the one who turned me on to it if that tells you anything.

[2 Bunny]

Magic jack is no scam. It works very well. It cost $40 dollars to buy it and that includes a 1 year subscription. Then in all future years it cost $20 dollars annually. You cant beat it for the money to have a home phone. My college professor is the one who turned me on to it if that tells you anything.

Do you get like your own number and can receive incoming calls as well? Like Skype?
Gosh, that rate is almost as good as a Skype price.

- 2 Bunny

[obcd]

2 Bunny, could you please stop asking off topic questions!!!
If you wan't to know the full specifications of the Magic jack program, google for it and read about it.

Do not bother to answer this post, as it doesn't have a question. It's not a topic open for discussion as well.

If you do feel like you need to discuss this statement, I will have you banned. First and also last warning.

regards.

[ressurectionx]

Holy Drama Batman......

I was just coming here to inquire about the question "Is Anyone Seriously Trying To Get A Full Windows Kernel Running?, seriously, i'd do it myself if i were legally allowed"

Sounded intriguing.