Xbox Love not equal to Microsoft Love? Options

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Xbox Love not equal to Microsoft Love? Posted by XanTium | January 5 00:17 EST

From washingtonpost.com: [QUOTE] It's not hard to see why game fans might become partisans for the consoles they play on. You're a lot better off, fun-wise, if your friends buy the same system you get so you can all play online together. And with the high-end Xbox costing $400 and the high-end PS3 costing $600, it has become too expensive for most gaming fans to pick up both machines. Here's the funny part, though: Xbox love doesn't translate to Microsoft love. That is to say, Xbox owners love their Xboxes but many would rather ignore the fact that the product comes from Microsoft, a company that has often had image problems among techies of the world. Fleisher, for example, wishes that the company's game-console team ran Microsoft, not the other way around. Or that the Xbox team had nothing to do with the software company. "I always say Xbox," he said, "because I don't like to associate it with Microsoft." [/QUOTE] Full Story: washingtonpost.com

[DMAddict]

Agreed, but then again, if MS didn't build such a shitty OS then I wouldn't have a job. Guess I gotta give MS a little love for all the work they give me.

This post has been edited by DMAddict: Jan 5 2007, 05:46 AM

[AngelBallz69]

i disagree i love m$, for what they have don for me, from xp to word, to XBOX 360, emagin if there wasent no micorsoft, what the hell would we be using?? and apple computer , not alot of room to hate on M$

[Chasym]

id hate to see where computer technology was today had M$ not been here, like it or not M$ contributed alot to the computers we use today!

[dark0]

I totally agree with DMAddict, if it wasn't for crap like Windows I wouldn't have this job .

P.S. You can do practically anything you do on windows using linux (anything, the apps will just have different names), plus it doesn't hurt that it's free.

[mike96sc2]

What is the X-S or Slashdot now? We're all going to ride Microsoft for making a popular and successful OS?

Linux and MacOS has by and far less users and therefore less people out there looking to hack and exploit for profit. If Linux took over the world or MacOS had similar market share you'd be surprised to see they have just as many bugs and just as many problems on their end.

[dark0]

What is the X-S or Slashdot now? We're all going to ride Microsoft for making a popular and successful OS?

Linux and MacOS has by and far less users and therefore less people out there looking to hack and exploit for profit. If Linux took over the world or MacOS had similar market share you'd be surprised to see they have just as many bugs and just as many problems on their end.

Oh my bad didn't mean to say the forbidden word here. Give me a break, linux servers get hacked just as much if not more than windows servers do, desktops on the other hand are different, while M$ has only a few OS's, Linux has a new one coming out practically every month (if not every week), which is kinda hard for hackers to keep up with, plus the fact that it's open source and is readily available for daily improvement from miltiple contributing sources helps, wouldn't you think so. Also the bugs that you speak of have nothing to do with hackers, viruses, trojans, worms or anything outside of the original design of Windows, Windows does.

[[Prophet]]

id hate to see where computer technology was today had M$ not been here, like it or not M$ contributed alot to the computers we use today!

You're right what would the technology market look like had a company like microsoft not existed, and not buying out any company that creates a remotely innovative product.

Just because they're the market leader does not mean had they not been around there wouldn't be an equal product or better product on the market.

Microsoft buys out companies before their products come to fruition or before they become popular.

MS DOS was not made by microsoft, which began their cash cow. QDOS was the original MS DOS, which was bought from a small company for a tiny sum. The code was tweaked a bit and v1.0 was released. Gates is a great marketer and opportunist, but he's no innovator.


And no I'm not a linux/MacOS advocate, I don't use either of them, all of my computer work is done in windows. However, I do think without the monopolistic player microsoft is in this industry (just like any other), we may have seen far more innovation.

This post has been edited by [Prophet]: Jan 5 2007, 06:38 AM

[mike96sc2]

M$ has only a few OS's, Linux has a new one coming out practically every month (if not every week), which is kinda hard for hackers to keep up with, plus the fact that it's open source and is readily available for daily improvement from miltiple contributing sources helps, wouldn't you think so. Also the bugs that you speak of have nothing to do with hackers, viruses, trojans, worms or anything outside of the original design of Windows, Windows does.

I'm saying there's plenty of potential for exploits and hacks in Linux but Linux geeks consider their OS to be holier than thao because it's open source so it has improvements and etc.

Does Linux make anything easier? IMO no. I suppose if you like to compile your own programs, no play games, not run any popular programs outside of clones, find your own drivers (if you're lucky), be updating constantly, etc then yes Linux has the upper hand.

Basically what I think you are missing is if you're going to go for a big target, wouldn't you go for the biggest? Not a fragmented community that's less than 1% of the desktop pie? Perhaps if Linux were on top and Windows at the bottom we'd be seeing Windows geeks proclaiming Windows better because it's closed source etc.

I kinda knew this thread was going to turn into a Windows flame-fest.

[thejt]

I love Microsoft also.. And sometimes I love to hate them. They are always hated on because they are at the top and after all people dont attack the losers. Just because of their power to push small companies around and the fact that there are issues with their products people unjustly give them a bad name. Anyone who says XP is crap is a fool. Tell me what other products running on hundreds of millions of systems has less problems?

Linux folks are blinded by their thick glasses and lack of social interaction which is exactly what their PC's are suffering from also. I want to sit down, get to business and communicate with the rest of the world without a language barrier. Most people have friends and loved ones who also use their PC's... that is unless your a linux person.

Im proud that my game system is from Microsoft and that they are providing me with the best game experience available.

Microsoft under promises and typically over delivers. Sony promises you the world and craps in your hand.

This post has been edited by thejt: Jan 5 2007, 07:12 AM

[mike96sc2]

' date='Jan 4 2007, 11:43 PM' post='3836647']
I do think without the monopolistic player microsoft is in this industry (just like any other), we may have seen far more innovation.

Or more confusion. Do I run Windows, Sun, Unix, MacOS? This is actually an industry where one single man on top is better for the aggregate. If Adobe had to make the same programs for 20 different operating systems there wouldn't be time for innovation, and interoperability sure wouldn't be around.

[dark0]

I'm not flaming or bashing anything, thank God for windows, windows puts bread on my table.

Like I said Windows has bigger problems which don't even contribute to hackers or any security at all.

Just for the hell of it, try Ubuntu, since it's the most popular linux distro at the moment (and for the right reason), you'll notice that it's just as competent (if not more) as windows in respects to the ease of use, compatibility and the endless variety of (original) software.

Linux folks are blinded by their thick glasses and lack of social interaction which is exactly what their PC's are suffering from also. I want to sit down, get to business and communicate with the rest of the world without a language barrier. Most people have friends and loved ones who also use their PC's... that is unless your a linux person.

Dude how old are you, what does running a different operating system has to do with your social status. I could say the same about you, that you're a geek living under a rock with your nose in the computer screen.

And what the hell does Sony has to do with this? Did you just feel like throwing it out there? They're not even in that market.

[Pheidias]

Yes one OS for all would have been awesome if it was bug free and worked as it should. Not one of MS OS are even remotely bug free or work satisfactory.

I really like the fact that the xbox lover stopped using sony products after its 90 day warrenty product broke. I wonder what he would have done if his x360 had broke after its initial 90 days.

Become a happy costumer for life and invest in a Nintendo product?

This post has been edited by Pheidias: Jan 5 2007, 07:12 AM

[mike96sc2]

' date='Jan 4 2007, 11:43 PM' post='3836647']
MS DOS was not made by microsoft, which began their cash cow. QDOS was the original MS DOS, which was bought from a small company for a tiny sum. The code was tweaked a bit and v1.0 was released.

Technically MS DOS was made by Microsoft, as was the original PC DOS. QDOS wasn't written to work on the IBM PC (the only true predecessor to modern PC technologywise) and instead had to be ported. So it's not like they changed the name from QDOS to PC DOS and put it out there, they had to take the code a port it to another architecture etc. I wouldn't exactly call it a simple tweak. Furthermore, if you've ever run PC DOS 1.0 you'd probably look at this and say you could have written it yourself. Rather than reinvent the wheel they took something that would work and made it work for their purposes. That's called (say it with me kids) innovation.

Yes one OS for all would have been awesome if it was bug free and worked as it should. Not one of MS OS are even remotely bug free or work satisfactory.

From the Sony fanboy. Show an OS that is 100% bug free and works as it should and you'll have an argument. I could use your logic to discuss the daily PS3 updates that still don't fix bugs or allow the system to work as it should. Bug free or work satisfactory there? Not for $600 I'd say.

[Lunar Loki]

Innovation, lol.

I'm guilty of being a m$ fanboy, gave up on my Dreamcast the day is came out. Also got my 360 asap, and gonna get my Zune soon ( like this weekend ), but I think the OS gets too much flak, it is the standard of the market and will always get shit.