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> Pioneer 116 - Key Elements For X360 Use, (and the previous Pioneer 111, 112, 115)
sosotiit
post Jan 13 2007, 03:34 AM
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The Pioneer DVR-116, and the SATA version Pioneer 216 are the crowd favorite at XS for a good reason, they are great burners.
Here are some quick info on the Pioneers ,
  1. Pioneer burners sets booktype (bitsetting) automatically to DVD-ROM for Double Layer +R, thus no need to change anything if you have a Pioneer.
  2. You will find here the CdFreaks full review of the pioneer 116.
  3. Previous Pioneer are also excellent burners (111,112,115), and the double layer burning started on the 108/A08 model.


With the Pioneer, burning your verbatim 2.4x (MkM001) at 2.4x or 4x appears to be an adequate choice, and the Verbatim 8x (MKM003) should be burned at 4x or 8x. The Pioneer will burn them at all speed from 2.4X to 8X: Slower speed (2.4X) do not seem to produce better burns and higher speed (6X and 8X) apparently introduce slghtly longer loading time. So only testing it will tell you which is best for your specific setup.

Finally there is no way to stress enough the need for good media in support of your Pioneer and on that you must read this post by Jesterrace777. When a system reads a dvd there is a limit to the number of errors it can correct without calling it quit and declaring the DVD unusable. Below are two quality scans (Lower errors is better!!). You will find the performance of a Verbatim (top) and a Ritek (marketed under RiData, memorex, TDK, Some of Sony...) and as you can see the the Ritek is off the chart I use. It does not mean it will not work, but it certainly increases the chances of a problem. In conclusion threat your Pioneer (and your X360 drive)well by feeding it decent food (as perceived by a burner obviously!!!).


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NOTE: I recieved a PM as to why I used the Liteon 165H6S in the scans above. It is the only little weakness I see of the Pioneer , not being a good scanner. You should not care about this unless you are real serious about doing quality scans of your burns, see posts 2 and 3 here.

Hope it helps,
rgds, soso

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post Jan 13 2007, 05:34 PM
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great info. Hopefully people looking for a new burner will read this and not have to ask "what is the best burner to get?"
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post Jan 22 2007, 06:16 PM
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Thanks for the info I bought a 111D today smile.gif
Gonna test if I can burn games now wink.gif
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post Feb 4 2007, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(DXK @ Jan 22 2007, 12:23 PM) *

Thanks for the info I bought a 111D today smile.gif


Just ordered myself. smile.gif

Late to the party on the 360 scene, and this tutorial provided me with one less thing to research.

Thanks!
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post Feb 4 2007, 08:42 AM
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Good summary of the Pioneer 111 drive. This thread and Jesterace777's media thread should be stickied since they are FAQs. Edit: It's nice to see that the links to the 2 threads are already stickied.


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Thanks sosotiit, now I can sleep well.

I have an old and good LG GSA-4120B, works fine for XBOX, PS2 and DVD, all with RITEK media, but for DL... ok thats fine, let him rest in peace in the DVD burns heaven.
Im get out to buy an Pioneer right now.

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post Feb 21 2007, 08:40 PM
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He forgot to add that the Pioneer 111D is also dirt cheap and widely available. wink.gif Either as the OEM drive the 111D or the retail model the DVR-710.
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picked one up myself after I got mine flashed by a local xb-scene modder smile.gif
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post Feb 24 2007, 12:57 AM
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Anyone use it yet?
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Not sure how it does as far as 360 discs are concerned but here is a general overview of the burner:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=201109


Given the fact that every Pioneer model since the 108 has done well with the 360, I don't see why the 112 would be any different but then again I have been surprised before.
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QUOTE(Mysteriouskk @ Feb 24 2007, 02:04 AM) *

Anyone use it yet?


Absolutely fantastic burner!

I bought one two days ago as my lite-on was having trouble burning any game on any media . So far I have had no problems with it yet. It definately overpowers my old lite-on LH-18A1H drive and he booktype (as always with the new pioneers) is auto set as DVD-Rom. Working straight out of the box...
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Good to hear a personal experience. I've always had good luck with Pioneer burners. I have had a 105, 109 and a 111 and they have all been great, so I am glad to see some evidence that they are continuing to make decent burners.
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Hi guys

Just ordered a Pioneer DVR 112D - and was wondering if anyone had any experience with it?

I have read as much as possible about the 111, but they were unavailible so i got the one up from it.

Do you think it will be pretty much the same? (which is what i expect)

Just so its not all take - i will be posting my personal experiences with it so you guys can add it to a list or something tongue.gif

peace.

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Yeah i'm thinking of getting a Pioneer DVR-112DBK 18x18 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter - (Black) OEM later

Do I need to update to latest firmware?
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post Mar 8 2007, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(gtavegas @ Mar 8 2007, 09:26 AM) *


Do I need to update to latest firmware?


here we go again!!!

try it, if it does not work, upgrade. As a general rule generic FW on pioneer is fine.
and zero research, it was just down the page (merge now)

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