QUOTE(bigmac_375 @ Jan 30 2007, 09:02 PM)

bad luck? seems more like the truck that carried this walmart's 360's tipped over, and walmart is still trying to sell them.

Your all wrong! These are returned systems from xmas that people either swapped their broken ones for new ones and/or modding gone bad! Walmart is very bad about putting returned items "as long as it looks sellable" back on the floor for sale. My story is this, I bought an apex dvd player back in 2001, you know the one that played everything, and the first one i got home didn't work and it had a dust ring on top of it like a cable box or book sat on it. The second one had a marker scribble on bottom of it, probably from a kid...it worked but i returned it never to buy electronics from walmart again!