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RDC
post Jul 17 2007, 06:12 PM
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There's already plenty of similar pics floating around and where to get this voltage and that, some good, some not so good, and some that haven't been done before, so I did these up and tossed them together all in one place for anyone that needs/wants them. wink.gif

There are only a few Ground spots marked throughout (Black in the first pic, Blue after that), mainly for a quick spot to stick a meter or whatever, but if ya want a known ground source use the metal cage or spots under the power plug, as long as the motherboard is installed and screwed down the metal cage is ground. You can also use the shielding of any of the Main Connectors that are on the board, USB, Memory Card ports, any of them, they're all grounded and are very easy to solder to. Just be careful and don't have the heat on them too long because they're plastic inside.

This is under the Power Connector, you have access to the 12v right from the PSU (when it's on) as well as the 5v Standby voltage. The Standby voltage is always present, as long as the PSU is plugged into the 360 and a good outlet, it remains on even when the 360 is turned off. The 12v, and every 12v spot as well as other voltages, in the 360 are Switched, they turn on/off with the 360. If the 360 isn't on, there's no 12v anywhere, if there's no 12v there's no 5v, 3.3v 1.8v and whatever other voltages are in there I haven't traced out yet.

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Here you can get to the 5v Standby (Red) from the top of the board, there are also a couple of 12v (Yellow) spots that are fairly easy to use as well. Remember Blue spots are Ground from here on.

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Here is the older good 5v spot and is still a good place to get 5v from, but some may not like soldering onto that SMT Capacitor there. You can also use the small spot there at DB6G1. There is also a 12v spot there at the tab of the MOSFET Q6F1. Soldering onto a tab of one of these MOSFETs can be difficult if you don't have a Soldering Iron that can sustain the heat long enough to get the tab and large plane it's soldered to hot enough to flow new solder on and melt the old as well.

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These are 5v spots that are under the board. They're right about the exact same spot as the 5v on the top ya just looked at, there is also a 12v spot here.

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Here are some other 5v locations (The ones in Red) that are at the front left of the 360. The Violet spots are 3.3v for the DVD drive (Large Regulator in the middle U1F1). 3.3v for the Memory Cards (Small Regulator at the bottom U1F2) and the 3.3v Regulator at the top (U1E1) supplies voltage to a 1.8v Regulator that's under the board (U2T1) that powers the Southbridge. There's also a 12v spot there at the tab of Q3F1.

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The row of MOSFETs on the right hand side of the 360 (The pic is turned) all have 12v on the tabs.

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These are all Standby voltages, Red = 5v, Violet = 3.3v and the pink Grapefruit looking color is 1.8v, these voltages are always present as long as the 360 has power, doesn't matter if it's turned on or off. The 5v is the same as the 5v Standby that's the Power Connector. The 3.3v powers the RF board and I'm sure a few other places and the 1.8v goes mainly to the Southbridge, I haven't finished tracking down all the places they go to yet.

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think I'm going to use 12v spots on your 2nd pic for my fan. I don't want to unscrew motherboard I want to just solder it straight to the top. any reason to not do this or any tips?
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RDC   Power Sources   Jul 17 2007, 06:12 PM
javaTN   wow! thank you so much RDC! this is reall...   Jul 17 2007, 07:15 PM
MarutiDriver   Nice, super detailed. I guess this should clear ev...   Jul 17 2007, 07:29 PM
darkmike57   Awesome. Finally a clear tut on ALL the voltage sp...   Jul 17 2007, 10:59 PM
BVlaar   Thank you so much RDC! This is a much better e...   Jul 18 2007, 01:32 AM
moofree   Very nice looking. If only I had a color printer.....   Jul 18 2007, 02:22 AM
sicknasty413   ^lmfao Very nice tutorial RDC. You make me proud ...   Jul 18 2007, 04:58 AM
qweewqaz   thanks for the awsome post :P   Jul 18 2007, 10:40 AM
np_guard   Thanks. The 12v under the PSU worked great to powe...   Aug 2 2007, 02:49 AM
commandersafi   This is much better than the other sources of powe...   Aug 2 2007, 03:13 AM
TPK22   thnx for this man and i have a quick question. you...   Aug 6 2007, 05:52 AM
box_69   as long as you have the proper resistors for your ...   Aug 6 2007, 06:06 AM
TPK22   thanks box u helped alot with me understandin this...   Aug 6 2007, 06:13 AM
box_69   no problem :) and if you need a resistor calcul...   Aug 6 2007, 06:17 AM
TPK22   im actually using the sickmod one it seems to be t...   Aug 6 2007, 06:25 AM
RDC   Don't use any of the Standby voltage sources f...   Aug 6 2007, 11:57 AM
TPK22   ya i understand that u did a good job with the pow...   Aug 6 2007, 04:22 PM
JAmerican   Someone told me that the only place you should dra...   Aug 18 2007, 12:02 AM
sinister slipknot   It's advised to, its direct power there and no...   Aug 18 2007, 12:08 AM
RDC   Someone told me that the only place you should dr...   Aug 18 2007, 12:46 AM
JAmerican   You can use any of the spots I have marked in the...   Aug 18 2007, 01:49 AM
sinister slipknot   In oder to blow a capacitor up you have to either...   Aug 18 2007, 01:56 PM
Alex_S_61   this is great will deffinatly help with all mods   Aug 18 2007, 02:46 AM
RDC   Just have to use a little more heat since you...   Aug 18 2007, 03:06 AM
RDC   Yeah but plenty of people have done it though... ...   Aug 18 2007, 02:43 PM
pritesh   Hi i need two solder up two of sickmods led boards...   Aug 19 2007, 08:15 PM
RDC   Hi i need two solder up two of sickmods led board...   Aug 20 2007, 12:36 AM
pritesh   sorry i did read the thread, ok i diddnt read it b...   Aug 20 2007, 01:35 AM
RDC   The board will work from either but is designed fo...   Aug 20 2007, 02:03 AM
meathse   rdc in your second pic'er could i run my rear ...   Sep 1 2007, 02:34 AM
RDC   @ meathse - Yeah you can use those spots for the f...   Sep 1 2007, 06:06 AM
meathse   ok, thanks for the reply. well you were right on t...   Sep 1 2007, 01:54 PM
RDC   The forum members superbee (Canada based) and bojn...   Sep 1 2007, 02:39 PM
der51106   thank you rdc i just put my 12v fan under my psu p...   Sep 17 2007, 05:47 AM
DMageXBE   I've got a fan from a dead PS2 that just seems...   Oct 1 2007, 10:04 PM
RDC   You can get it to run at 7v by connecting it to a ...   Oct 1 2007, 11:09 PM
ncmach   You can get it to run at 7v by connecting it to a...   Mar 20 2009, 07:19 PM
DMageXBE   Heeey... that IS kinda cool. I didnt know you coul...   Oct 1 2007, 11:40 PM
RDC   Yup, no Resistor or anything needed 12v for + and ...   Oct 2 2007, 12:59 AM
DMageXBE   Gotcha! will do. Thanx for the help. ;)   Oct 2 2007, 02:37 AM
RDC   think I'm going to use 12v spots on your 2nd ...   Oct 2 2007, 05:59 PM
kawirider71   No its a little 1.5 inch radioshack fan im mountin...   Oct 2 2007, 08:57 PM
RDC   Just about any 60/40 Rosin core solder will do ya,...   Oct 2 2007, 11:21 PM
A7X MadDog A7X   :blink:   Oct 2 2007, 11:23 PM
kawirider71   k thanks man. we do soldering in my ee100 lab but ...   Oct 3 2007, 12:03 AM
DMageXBE   ok..... wierd problem.... I added a fan using the ...   Oct 7 2007, 07:15 PM
DMageXBE   I think I got it... stupid me.... I just went and ...   Oct 7 2007, 08:10 PM
Murc   I've read the comment, and it sounds like most...   Mar 24 2008, 12:08 AM
TeEhEeHeE   I've soldered to points 6 for 12v and 9 for gr...   May 23 2008, 06:55 PM
RDC   @ TeEhEeHeE - The power connector on all of the 36...   May 23 2008, 08:33 PM
TeEhEeHeE   @ TeEhEeHeE - The power connector on all of the 3...   May 23 2008, 09:26 PM
RDC   Depends on what ya want to spend on an iron, all y...   May 23 2008, 10:45 PM
TeEhEeHeE   Well, I just cant seem to get the original solder ...   May 27 2008, 04:10 AM
RDC   Without seeing what you're doing I have no ide...   May 27 2008, 04:45 AM
TeEhEeHeE   Aright, so I got the point labeled " DB8M1...   May 27 2008, 08:15 AM
TeEhEeHeE   Is it possible to get new solder to flow nicely on...   May 27 2008, 04:19 PM
RDC   Huh? If you're asking what I think, can you so...   May 27 2008, 05:36 PM
TeEhEeHeE   I got my friends soldering station and the slder m...   May 27 2008, 07:43 PM
TeEhEeHeE   Just had a thought.. (and past the edit time thres...   May 27 2008, 09:39 PM
RDC   The motherboard does not have to be in the cage to...   May 28 2008, 01:29 AM
TeEhEeHeE   well ill be..... i had the stupid positive and gnd...   May 28 2008, 05:03 AM
yayupp   Thanks for the info! Just in time too!   May 29 2008, 08:37 AM
deadrising2day   ^^Anyone?   Jun 15 2008, 11:46 PM
deadrising2day   I have a fan header with three pins on top where t...   Jun 14 2008, 08:31 PM
curiouscreature   very impressive   Jun 14 2008, 09:35 PM
ziggsta   I would like to know the answer about the core 2 c...   Jun 27 2008, 06:49 PM
malmeid2   Hi fellas. Quick question. I'd really like to ...   Jun 27 2008, 07:50 PM
RDC   Hi fellas. Quick question. I'd really like to...   Jun 28 2008, 09:23 AM
malmeid2   3 fans at 0.25A each is 0.75A, that's fine to...   Jun 28 2008, 03:11 PM
Erfan223   This is a great picture guide of all the points yo...   Jun 28 2008, 11:35 PM
malmeid2   Okay I got my fans working a few days ago but the ...   Jul 5 2008, 06:04 PM
DRM_360   I couldn't fing it anywhat so i'm gonna as...   Jul 13 2008, 06:09 AM
RDC   I couldn't fing it anywhat so i'm gonna a...   Jul 13 2008, 07:52 AM
VanydotK   Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for. One...   Jul 14 2008, 06:13 AM
RDC   Thanks this is exactly what I was looking for. On...   Jul 14 2008, 10:58 AM
beetlemaniac   Here are some other 5v locations (The ones in Red...   Jul 22 2008, 07:28 AM
RDC   Hey there, if I used the 3.3V source for the memo...   Jul 22 2008, 03:53 PM
beetlemaniac   You could power a few from there if ya wanted and...   Jul 23 2008, 07:35 PM
malmeid2   Quick question here about the 3.3v sources in the ...   Jul 24 2008, 10:28 PM
RDC   Quick question here about the 3.3v sources in the...   Jul 24 2008, 11:33 PM
malmeid2   If all 3 were it wouldn't be much of a Regula...   Jul 24 2008, 11:54 PM
ALP1987   I just wanted to say thanks for this guide. I just...   Jul 26 2008, 03:04 AM
ozzy_paul   Thanks for posting this RDC. Makes life alot easie...   Jul 29 2008, 05:37 PM
osva   I just used the db8m3 12v point in the first pictu...   Aug 31 2008, 04:55 AM
RDC   I just used the db8m3 12v point in the first pict...   Aug 31 2008, 08:46 PM
osva   That spot has nothing to do with the HDD, though ...   Aug 31 2008, 11:05 PM
mcornbill   Why isn't this pinned - I've just spent on...   Oct 26 2008, 06:46 PM
RDC   Why isn't this pinned - I've just spent o...   Oct 26 2008, 07:36 PM
Cu3 Th3 Light5   This might sound like a dumb question but can you ...   Nov 17 2008, 08:40 PM
RDC   Yes you can do that, provided ya don't end up ...   Nov 17 2008, 09:15 PM
ian_the_nut   Hi, i know this probably sounds dumb - but ive nev...   Nov 20 2008, 12:08 AM
RDC   Provided ya wire them up correctly, then don't...   Nov 20 2008, 05:47 AM
denis6902   hello everyone, sorry for catching up late to the...   Dec 6 2008, 02:28 AM
RDC   If you're installing a water cooling setup you...   Dec 6 2008, 04:11 AM
Guily6669   Thank you so much for your tutorial. It made ever...   Jan 4 2009, 04:40 AM
FoneFreak   Hi friends, i have a 360 which is totally dead aft...   Jan 14 2009, 12:52 AM
winterknights   im also wondering which spots i put the voltmeter ...   Jan 18 2009, 10:15 AM
RDC   This thread is more for a working 360 and where to...   Jan 18 2009, 01:12 PM
winterknights   well im fairly certain it was form a surge or some...   Jan 18 2009, 09:34 PM
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