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> AMD's Feldstein: Future Game Hardware To Combine CPU, GPU
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post Oct 29 2007, 06:47 PM
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AMD's Feldstein: Future Game Hardware To Combine CPU, GPU
Posted by XanTium | October 29 12:47 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From gamasutra.com:
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Both the Xbox 360 and the Wii have graphics processing units designed by AMD, and speaking in a Gamasutra-exclusive interview, the company's VP of strategic development, Bob Feldstein, provided some insight on the future of console gaming chips, speculating that GPUs and CPUs may someday be a single entity:

"I'll say that what I see the future as is a combined CPU/GPU, where the delineations are not there anymore. You combine them into a chip; you have compute elements of both, and jobs get kind of -- threads get kind of put on the resources that are best suited for them. GPU-like resources, vector engines for problems that simulate the real world, graphics, and physics. And for sequential problems, about other parts of this, you know, you've got your typical sequential processor."
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post Oct 29 2007, 06:40 PM
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Does this mean that the next gen will have this or is this like a long ways down the road?
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post Oct 29 2007, 06:42 PM
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interesting approach, would definitly solve all of the cpu->gpu bandwith issues although something tells me this is amd/ati 's cunning plan to secure itself place in one of the next gens consoles
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post Oct 29 2007, 06:57 PM
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And create even more RROD
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post Oct 29 2007, 07:42 PM
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I guess you could kinda see this coming the smaller and cooling running chips.
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post Oct 29 2007, 08:02 PM
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old news. its was said with cpus having so many cores in the near furter that a video card will not be nedded sence a core or 2 can be dedcated to gfx. or even have a cpu with a gfx core built in memery and all.
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post Oct 29 2007, 08:09 PM
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Both the Xbox 360 and the Wii have graphics processing units designed by AMD

huh ?! AMD ?!
They are crazy or what ? both XBOX360 and WII useing ATI graphics processing units not AMD , LOL dry.gif
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post Oct 29 2007, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(LordX @ Oct 29 2007, 08:45 PM) *

huh ?! AMD ?!
They are crazy or what ? both XBOX360 and WII useing ATI graphics processing units not AMD , LOL dry.gif

AMD is ATi you muppet tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2007, 08:43 PM
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QUOTE(stezo2k @ Oct 29 2007, 12:50 PM) *

AMD is ATi you muppet tongue.gif


What exactly is a muppet? Is it a mop? A puppet?

I could really see this technology in stuff like laptops/tablet PCs.
I really don't see a need for it when form factor is not a... factor.
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post Oct 29 2007, 08:46 PM
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Kind of interesting that this popped up... I was just reading an interview Edge did was Gabe Newell (from Valve/creator behind HL2 and orange box) saying how GPUs and CPUs are so similar that they'll be a single architecture in the next generation or two ph34r.gif
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post Oct 29 2007, 08:48 PM
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well GPUs are becoming (and are) mini-computers onto themselves

having multiple cores now it would make senses to dedicate one to normal GPU problems and use other system resources in support....

seems a tad complicated though rather than keeping it the way it is...
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:32 PM
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wow, this is genius! this will open possibilitys! NOTE! this is pure irony from me. this was made for the pstwo years ago, so it's nothing new to combine cpu an gpu.
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:40 PM
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The trend in consoles seems to be muti-core CPUs with heavily multi-threaded programming. Chances are that Microsoft's next Xbox480000 will have even more PPC cores. I fail to see how AMD plans to capitalize on CPU+GPU in the game console market. Smells like wishful thinking more than a 'trend'.

In fact, the only place I could imagine a combined CPU+GPU might be useful would be in the laptop market.
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(stezo2k @ Oct 29 2007, 09:50 PM) *

AMD is ATi you muppet tongue.gif

Today yes , but when xbox360 and wii was in development it was ATI only !
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post Oct 29 2007, 10:03 PM
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<sarcasm>
Hey this idea worked really great for Cyrix, am I the only one that remembers the MediaGX CPU/GPU they made?
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