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> Do You Think Ms Will Ever Do Well In Japan?
Do you think MS will ever do well in Japan?
Do you think MS will ever do well in Japan?
Yeah they just need better marketing [ 135 ] ** [6.47%]
Yeah they just need Square/other Japanese developers [ 666 ] ** [31.94%]
Maybe, if the one of the other consoles flop [ 161 ] ** [7.72%]
Probably not but MS needs to keep trying [ 419 ] ** [20.10%]
They should just forget Japan; Screw 'em if they don't know a good thing... [ 704 ] ** [33.76%]
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steveju
post Nov 3 2007, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(ChIBoY @ Nov 2 2007, 09:53 PM) *
They wont support it because it US made
"Made in China" - The home of all three consoles out there.
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post Nov 3 2007, 05:11 PM
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Need better Marketing strageties. The games for the 360 are the best ones around. Look at the Wii most of the games are pointless and can be beaten within 4 hours or less and the PS3 just needs more games.

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post Nov 4 2007, 07:38 AM
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the japan country is very product loyal unlike the usa. that bascily means in genrel they will not buy anything made in the usa or ran by the usa. no matter how good the 360 is or anything else for that matter. more devs from japan might help sales but it will never be as big as nintendo or sony. they should just pack it up and go and find some good usa devs. who knoes the next huge rpg final fantisy killer might be made in the usa. and the company being m$ doesent help matters they have a worse rep in japan then in the usa and you knoe thats saying alot.

well i shouldent say all apple does pretty well there ipods are just as big there as they are hear. but apple has a great rep worldwide. lets face it apple = qualty m$ = thell probly screw you if they can sony = screw you if they can but are from japan.

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post Nov 4 2007, 05:16 PM
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360 will never sell well in japan cuz its games don't eroticize pre-pubescent females the way that games that sell well in japan do.
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post Nov 4 2007, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(steveju @ Nov 3 2007, 05:09 AM) *

"Made in China" - The home of all three consoles out there.


actually, built in China - but made (created, designed, whatever) in the USA...


and MS should continue to market in Japan, but their market is so different than any other with such strange loyalties and game interests that it's just not worth too much of a push...
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post Nov 5 2007, 02:00 AM
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Japanese are very loyal to their products indeed, and american and japanese gamers are very different demographics when it comes to marketing. Ive seen MS try to gain respect from japanese gamers, and are usually turned away at every turn. Us Americans play what we like and drive what we like no matter if most of the machines are really manufactured in "China". It's about fun games, and honestly most japanese games are too kiddy. unrealistic and cartoonish in my opinion (not all). Im impressed with the 360's game lineup so far and not too much with PS3. I don't see how any gamer in any part of the world can ignore marvelous titles that 360 has gave us. In my opinion the Japanese are just hating on somethin good because its U.S. made. Loyalty has brainwashed Japanese consumers to buy things only Japanese which is sad for them because there missing out on some fun games.
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post Nov 5 2007, 10:50 AM
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I think it is just the game market and research
IMO microsoft should set a subdivision there just for that market (idk if they have one or not really)
Kinda like how there is nintendo of america and sony of america
there should be Microsoft of japan
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post Nov 6 2007, 06:36 AM
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just like the poll said "screw them" they are just wasting money and it will have alot of catching up to do anyways if they ever actually sell a console...
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post Nov 6 2007, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(nlx420 @ Nov 5 2007, 01:36 AM) *

Japanese are very loyal to their products indeed, and american and japanese gamers are very different demographics when it comes to marketing. Ive seen MS try to gain respect from japanese gamers, and are usually turned away at every turn. Us Americans play what we like and drive what we like no matter if most of the machines are really manufactured in "China". It's about fun games, and honestly most japanese games are too kiddy. unrealistic and cartoonish in my opinion (not all). Im impressed with the 360's game lineup so far and not too much with PS3. I don't see how any gamer in any part of the world can ignore marvelous titles that 360 has gave us. In my opinion the Japanese are just hating on somethin good because its U.S. made. Loyalty has brainwashed Japanese consumers to buy things only Japanese which is sad for them because there missing out on some fun games.


I honestly don't believe it has anything to do with the genre of games being distributed in Japan. If what you're saying is true, MGS4 should pan. The reason that some American products succeed in Japan is typically because there's no quality Japanese equivalent. As already stated, the 360 is their loss - I wish MS would just give it up and offer the UK the consoles which aren't selling over there.
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post Nov 6 2007, 02:43 PM
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Well, have you SEEN what Japanese gamers buy over there?? Dating simulators? Cooking simulators? Turn-based Final Fantasy knock-offs?

Forget those guys. Their tastes are too weird for an American company to fully understand, nor should it even want to. Let them have their weird-ass games and I'll take our good ones, thanks.
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post Nov 7 2007, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 2 2007, 03:55 AM) *

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A lot of people say "screw em" but there are lots of great products in the Americas and Europe that people pass on by simply because they're not marketed well.



I agree completely. Many games even in Amrecia didn't get the attetion they should have just because of bad marketing. There are great games out there that people have no idea exist.
So, you could have the best game ever in the world made and if the marketing aspect sucks. The game won't be much.

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post Nov 8 2007, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(johnnyrico @ Nov 2 2007, 11:57 AM) *

I think there's also a bit of pride and other reasons involved.
if you got the choice between 2 companies from the homeland and 1 company from a land that you were in war with once, what company would you choose?
yes, I know the USA and japan are now very good allies, but still.

indeed, there's also the cultural difference, but really, are sony's games that different from those MS' console has?
I'd say: if it doesn't work out on one market, go to the markets where it does work out and invest in those instead.



that's kinda what I was thinking. I think the US is one of the few countries that don't take too much pride in buying things that are home made
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post Nov 10 2007, 11:17 PM
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The amount of money MS spends on marketing and development in Japan would be better spent elsewhere. After 2 failed consoles where do you draw the line?
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post Nov 11 2007, 06:22 AM
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Yeah. They need to drop off the name "Microsoft" and have some established Japanese company handle the system, at least in name. Maybe SNK or SEGA? Perhaps even Matsushita.
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The Japanese. Call it pride, loyalty, arrogance, whatever. It should be expected that they don't care about the 360. They have the "similar" PS3.

Remember how identical SNES games looked better than Genesis games?
Remember how identical N64 games looked better than Playstation games?
Remember how identical XBOX games looked better than PS2 games?
Better hardware trumps lesser hardware.

But now the hardware playing field is more level than ever. So If the 360 had the games the Japanese want, they'd buy it, providing that those games were not available for PS3. They'd have to be exclusive to 360, or the Japanese will simply choose the same game(s) on the system of their homeland. Truth be told, we should be doing the same thing (supporting the US born console). I own both. Identical titles, I buy the 360 version. I only have a PS3 for it's exclusives (Warhawk, Turismo, etc).
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