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stholt
post Jan 15 2008, 03:07 PM
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Anyone else been having issues with divx/xvid files with 5.1 ac3 sound? It seems like every way I try to get this to work, while watching it streamed over a network hardline through WMP11, about every five minutes or so the video stutters/skips for a second or two and then it's fine. I've demuxed the video and converted the ac3 to a stereo mp3 and remuxed it and the whole thing plays just fine(I've done this on more than one source), so i figure it's something with the divx/xvid/ac3 "support" MS has given us. Any thoughts? I usually use VirtualDubMod for the muxing, is there a better program out there? I like to use divx/avid because I get almost realtime encoding with great quality, whereas WMV takes 12-15 hours to encode.
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post Mar 19 2008, 03:44 PM
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Ok first read up here on some issues with openDML http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/en_about_opendml.html then go here and read through all the issues that they had with the XBMP http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/229672 that will give you some insight as to how crappy and shoddy the openDML extention is.

I have however made a small breakthrough. I have produced an Xvid-HS(1280x544) vid with AC3 5.1ch that does not skip! BUT....... it is not smooth, you can tell that there is a framerate issue in there somewhere as it kinda skips a frame every 4 seconds, it is noticable, but not entirely a killer... My problem with this output is that it is not perfect, and it uses VBR with spike in the 12000k range and the movie never skips a beat. so now I have to figure out why the video is skipping one frame every 4 seconds or so.

I use nandub to meld Xvid and AC3 files together. it is super easy and takes no time at all.

Also MS resonded to my question as to the skipping in Xvid AC3 videos and they said "We have no issues using our encoding method and keeping within the bitrates provided in the December update FAQ."

well now I emeailed them back asking them about there method and what length the video was, we shall see what they have to say about that.
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post Apr 23 2008, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(reddragon72 @ Mar 20 2008, 01:20 AM) *
so now I have to figure out why the video is skipping one frame every 4 seconds or so.


You video is skipping because you have applied frame rate conversion, i would think you have converted a 23.976fps video to a 25fps video, for this frame rate conversion the encoder has to insert a duplicate frame or 2 to pad the video upto 25fps, generally i would pretty much leave the frame rate alone, unless for instance it had to be convert from a ntsc film to a pal dvd which would require a frame rate conversion...

anyway getting to my orginal intent for this post, i do not think the skipping issue is to do with a bug in ac3 5.1ch audio i think it is a issue with the hardware itself, My transformers HD DVD rip 11mbps 1920x800 256k mp3 (behaves the same with ac3 2.0 and 5.1) 12gb avi that exhibits these issues, even if i reencode at 1280x534 at high bitrate it skips, it seems to stop skipping when the bitrate goes low, below about 6-7mbps it must be a hardware constraint, either not having enough memory or gpu not being fast enough to decode and playback a high bitrate video, even my Pentium D 3.2ghz 2gb ram 512mb ati 2400pro pc has problems with video at this res and bitrate
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stholt   Video Stuttering With Ac3 Sound...   Jan 15 2008, 03:07 PM
imdickie   Anyone else been having issues with divx/xvid fil...   Jan 27 2008, 11:15 PM
robert74   Im having the same problem. File stuttering every ...   Jan 28 2008, 08:34 PM
imdickie   Im having the same problem. File stuttering every...   Jan 29 2008, 09:03 AM
robert74   Still no solution guys? I made a clean install of...   Feb 20 2008, 07:03 AM
dannyboyuk   This is happening to me when watching stuff I...   Feb 27 2008, 04:01 PM
Hexanon   I get it about every 20 mins. It only happens on m...   Feb 29 2008, 02:17 AM
reddragon72   I too have this issue. An AVI file with XVID and A...   Mar 5 2008, 06:55 PM
jev3gs   I am in the same boat as all you guys. I was pull...   Mar 11 2008, 05:23 AM
robert74   I am in the same boat as all you guys. I was pul...   Mar 11 2008, 05:44 AM
reddragon72   Testing Hd xvids(720p) less than 1gb worked with ...   Mar 13 2008, 07:53 PM
septurious   Hey guys, I've been banging my head against t...   Mar 13 2008, 08:45 PM
reddragon72   ok over the weekend I did a typical encode with Au...   Mar 17 2008, 05:06 PM
septurious   Hey guys, I did some tests this weekend and ran i...   Mar 18 2008, 01:22 AM
reddragon72   Let me give you a little history. AVI containers w...   Mar 18 2008, 05:38 PM
septurious   Ahhh that totally makes sense about the openDML bu...   Mar 18 2008, 10:39 PM
septurious   I'll read through those posts in a moment but ...   Mar 19 2008, 07:00 PM
septurious   Ok, so stupid question time number 2. After readin...   Mar 19 2008, 07:14 PM
reddragon72   I muxed my AC3 file with my vid file in nandub. Na...   Mar 20 2008, 03:58 PM
chrislynch   Check this out. This page talks about OpenDML and...   Mar 20 2008, 08:13 PM
septurious   Hey Chrislynch, That's actually exactly the l...   Mar 20 2008, 10:44 PM
reddragon72   Ok tested nandub virtualdub virtualdubmod and som...   Mar 21 2008, 04:53 PM
septurious   Well the 360 doesn't have a problem with all A...   Mar 24 2008, 05:26 AM
reddragon72   Well the 360 doesn't have a problem with all ...   Mar 24 2008, 03:46 PM
septurious   *Sigh* Ok so MP3 5.1 surround sound is a no go. I...   Mar 26 2008, 07:59 PM
reddragon72   *Sigh* Ok so MP3 5.1 surround sound is a no go. I...   Mar 27 2008, 03:26 PM
septurious   Sounds correct to me reddragon72, I've done t...   Mar 27 2008, 09:59 PM
bladec   FINALLY!!! I found someone (actually ...   Apr 5 2008, 09:12 PM
reddragon72   FINALLY!!! I found someone (actually...   Apr 7 2008, 11:07 PM
reddragon72   well as said splitting the video into 1.9gig segme...   May 2 2008, 07:47 PM
jev3gs   well as said splitting the video into 1.9gig segm...   May 19 2008, 04:01 AM
reddragon72   Red, do you know an easy way to convert Divx to W...   May 19 2008, 04:14 PM
jev3gs   Thanks Red! That will definetly get me starte...   May 20 2008, 01:15 AM
MCLFLN   I am glad I found this post....I have been going c...   Jul 18 2008, 03:33 AM
haterzwantwar   OK slightly less technical solution that I came ac...   Dec 11 2008, 04:51 PM
srpape   Any update on this? I'm having the same issue,...   Apr 1 2009, 01:09 AM
motorrotor   Any update on this? I'm having the same issue...   Jun 11 2009, 06:23 PM
k3nnis   Hi, Thanks for the info. So will this work if I w...   Jun 12 2009, 01:02 PM
srpape   Well, I'm already using optical audio output s...   Jun 27 2009, 05:52 PM
srpape   Unfortunately reencoding the file didn't help ...   Jun 27 2009, 06:37 PM
war59312   Still no fix for this? Besides having to re-encod...   Sep 2 2010, 02:34 AM
asics shoes   :o   Sep 13 2010, 11:37 AM
misteromar   I had problems with a xvid encode that had AC3 5.1...   Jan 10 2012, 11:41 AM
misteromar   I re-encoded the uadio to mp3 stereo and video sti...   Jan 10 2012, 01:36 PM






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