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post Jan 29 2008, 02:59 AM
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Rumour: MS Refusing to Take 10M Worth of Defective 360s from EB Oz?
Posted by XanTium | January 28 20:59 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From kotaku.com.au:
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Over the weekend, a Kotaku AU reader sent through a chat log containing an enlightening conversation with "an associate of mine who holds a high position within the EB organisation". According to the log, Microsoft is refusing to take responsibility for its defective consoles, leaving it up to the games retailer to make the best of a crappy situation.

Obviously we're trying to verify the facts, but for now, there's no reason not to let you guys know of the potentially nasty relationship that may exist between EB Australia and Microsoft.

According to the transcript, EB Australia has $10 million worth of defective Xbox 360s gathering dust, as Microsoft is unwilling to take them back. As a result, EB is no longer stocking the 360, except as second-hand or pre-owned units. A search of the EB Games website for "xbox 360" confirms this.
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Full Story: kotaku.com.au




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post Jan 29 2008, 03:38 AM
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I call BS. They are going to stop selling new 360's? Yeah Right.


*EDIT* Just read that last line, I stand corrected. Maybe they should start selling the defective units on the scene. I wouldn't mind buying a few, doing some x-clamp replacements and turning a little profit.

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post Jan 29 2008, 03:41 AM
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ebay em all, say they are broken, but include a new receipt so the buyer can just send it in. EB takes a small hit, but gets some GREAT PR, and MS is still stuck honoring its waranty.
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post Jan 29 2008, 03:50 AM
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wow that is pretty crazy!

Is there a reason why Ms isn't taking responsibility? Seems a tad weird.

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post Jan 29 2008, 04:26 AM
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QUOTE(Killerchronic @ Jan 29 2008, 04:26 AM) *



Is there a reason why Ms isn't taking responsibility? Seems a tad weird.


because it's M$. They would never sell anything that had problems so its all the consumers fault that they broke them.
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post Jan 29 2008, 04:27 AM
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? uhh.gif

I definately saw an "xbox 360 pro" for $349 on their site... new.

Apparently I'm missing something.
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post Jan 29 2008, 04:29 AM
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EBgames.com still shows them selling Xbox-360 Pro's for me
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020253

hmm

*edit* nuke field ET beat me

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post Jan 29 2008, 04:30 AM
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The article doesn't mention whether the issue is RROD or if it's the batch with defective hard disks that EB had an article about last year. Under Australian law you cannot sell a product that you know to be defective. EB cannot sell these 360's, and would have serious problems with the office of fair trading if they did. However EB may have a case with the OFT against Microsoft.
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post Jan 29 2008, 04:32 AM
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QUOTE(Ninja Sniper X @ Jan 29 2008, 02:05 PM) *

EBgames.com still shows them selling Xbox-360 Pro's for me
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=020253

hmm

*edit* nuke field ET beat me

EB Australia, not US.

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post Jan 29 2008, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE(ILTB @ Jan 28 2008, 11:08 PM) *

EB Australia, not US.

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Looks like EB Australia **IS** selling new Xbox 360s.

Shenanigans.
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post Jan 29 2008, 04:41 AM
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Yes, you have to look at the Australian site. Here is the link:

http://www.ebgames.com.au/Xbox/product.cfm?ID=3111

They are seeing the Pro Console only at 579.00! That is over 600.00 USD!
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post Jan 29 2008, 04:42 AM
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Maybe the $$ number is inflated but the idea isn't a rumor. I've had a couple discussions with CSR's at local stores like best buy and futureshop here in canada that suggests the contract which allows them to sell the 360 is seriously against the chain - for example, if M$ finds that a particular batch has a high failure rate, though a newer batch is currently shipping, they outright refuse returns from the stores of that lot number (and yeah, that has happened here on a couple lots according to the best buy guy I was talking to.) Basically, the retailers have a choice, take it up the wazoo and agree with the contract that allows M$ to do this - or don't sell the 360.

We get the same short end of the stick when we buy anything M$ sells, too (including live membership and their "you pay, we don't provide the service, not our fault" clauses.)

On a side note, the 2 EB's closest to me (again, this is canada) haven't restocked on 360's yet either - not entirely sure if they will be now. They've been out of machines since before Christmas rush apparently. Also, to those of you drooling with the piles of consoles dancing in your brain... EB usually has contracts with local repair people to deal with that stuff so they can resell nonreturnables as used decks - if you are into doing repairs live down under you might want to talk with the manager and see if they currently have anyone who is willing to turn over 360's for repair (though I bet they won't give you jack all for your work but expect godly qualifications to boot...)

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I hope this is true for all EB retailers world-wide ...

I'd love to see them have a fire sale of all 360 units/games/accessories

I'd be first in line at the store to pick up some more gear on the cheap..
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QUOTE(cory1492 @ Jan 28 2008, 11:18 PM) *

Maybe the $$ number is inflated but the idea isn't a rumor. I've had a couple discussions with CSR's at local stores like best buy and futureshop here in canada that suggests the contract which allows them to sell the 360 is seriously against the chain - for example, if M$ finds that a particular batch has a high failure rate, though a newer batch is currently shipping, they outright refuse returns from the stores of that lot number (and yeah, that has happened here on a couple lots according to the best buy guy I was talking to.) Basically, the retailers have a choice, take it up the wazoo and agree with the contract that allows M$ to do this - or don't sell the 360.

We get the same short end of the stick when we buy anything M$ sells, too (including live membership and their "you pay, we don't provide the service, not our fault" clauses.)

On a side note, the 2 EB's closest to me (again, this is canada) haven't restocked on 360's yet either - not entirely sure if they will be now. They've been out of machines since before Christmas rush apparently. Also, to those of you drooling with the piles of consoles dancing in your brain... EB usually has contracts with local repair people to deal with that stuff so they can resell nonreturnables as used decks - if you are into doing repairs live down under you might want to talk with the manager and see if they currently have anyone who is willing to turn over 360's for repair (though I bet they won't give you jack all for your work but expect godly qualifications to boot...)


We keep hearing these stories, but there's never any actual substance. Usually others have "heard" this from friends or from managers at places they work.... but again, litte or no substance.

Microsoft couldn't do business like that. Ever.

More likely, EB is sitting on a stock of returned 360s that have warranty stickers removed or tampered, and they shouldn't have taken them in. Likewise, the buyer should be returning genuinely defective, under warranty, units directly to Microsoft, not to EB games. They should be directing the customers to Microsoft, instead of taking defective units back.

Beyond that, "open box" returns that are supposed to be non-defective should be checked out, and surely EB games has facilities at every store to check them out.

Again, I call shenanigans. Microsoft has had design issues, some quality issues (bound to happen when you manufacture in China), but they are handing them - why piss off retailers and consumers?
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post Jan 29 2008, 04:56 AM
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By defective 360's do they mean all of them? wink.gif
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