Analyst Predicts Next Xbox in 2010 Options

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Analyst Predicts Next Xbox in 2010 Posted by XanTium | May 9 00:10 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From gamespot.com: [QUOTE] Pacific Crest Securities analyst Evan Wilson gave investors today a heads-up on when he believes Microsoft and Nintendo will unveil their next systems. "We believe that peak industry sales will occur in 2010, given that Microsoft will likely introduce its next console that year and Nintendo will likely launch before then. Further, 2010 is also likely to coincide with the end of the Nintendo DS and Sony PSP cycles." [/QUOTE] Full Story: gamespot.com

[liam82517]

doubt it, seriously doubt it.

[PaddyPat]

I can't see how they'll have it in 2010. They rushed into the 360 and caused all sorts of havoc. They neglected Xbox 1 users and lost a lot of market share, whereas PS2 continued to sell millions of consoles and games. I can't see them doing this unless they want to make the same mistake twice.

[s.mrio]

Who knows maybe the next xbox wont be that much better in graphics but maybe it will address alot of issues that are around now. I was actually thinking about fixing my PS2 and casting the 360 aside because of its issues. Whatever they decide it better be a quality machine, because I'm not putting down another $525 for crap. Then I'll end up with some lame pez machine that needs fixing then I'll end up doing someone elses job just to satisfy myself. Talk about modern scams.

[0794]

even if this was true, then...so what?

and i would agree with the others, 2010 does seem too early in some respects...

[Moleman]

2010 would be 5 years, sounds just about right. Remember, the the Xbox only had 4 years. The PS3 came after 6 years and the Wii after 5.

[vanxman]

I can't see how they'll have it in 2010. They rushed into the 360 and caused all sorts of havoc. They neglected Xbox 1 users and lost a lot of market share, whereas PS2 continued to sell millions of consoles and games. I can't see them doing this unless they want to make the same mistake twice.

It's MS... Wouldn't expect anything less than making the same mistake twice... Or 3 times... Or 4... Or......

This post has been edited by vanxman: May 9 2008, 09:50 AM

[HotKnife420]

They may announce it in 2010, but they're steadily selling units. I'm sure the 360 will have too much going for it to introduce another system in 2 years from now (though a lot can happen in 2 years).

[sabbath_dude]

Seems about right to me. It follows the normal 5 year cycle most consoles typically have. We'll see the revised and probably slim version of the 360 just before the new Xbox is released to keep sales/interest up. People seem to think that when the next Xbox is released Microsoft will drop support for the 360 like they did for Xbox 1. The situation with the Xbox 1 was completely different and they wont do this with the 360.

[Elemino]

2010 would be 5 years, sounds just about right. Remember, the the Xbox only had 4 years. The PS3 came after 6 years and the Wii after 5.

MS was trying to patch up their bleeding hole with the xbox 1, and nintendo and sony obviously had to follow suite to keep up with what MS set as current technology.

[zX_Storm]

Seems about right to me. It follows the normal 5 year cycle most consoles typically have. We'll see the revised and probably slim version of the 360 just before the new Xbox is released to keep sales/interest up. People seem to think that when the next Xbox is released Microsoft will drop support for the 360 like they did for Xbox 1. The situation with the Xbox 1 was completely different and they wont do this with the 360.

Please explain why you think so. I highly believe that MS will do the same thing and screw over all the X360 users. Unless their next console reads the same sort of games, but also allows BR or something, I don't see any sort of greater advantage of a new console in gamers' eyes except to feed MS cashcow. Maybe one advantage... that it doesn't RRoD for over 40% of it's customer base.

The whole 5-year cycle cannot keep up-to-date. Anything beyond what the PS3 and X360 have to offer, even in 2 years is going to be a very high-priced item. Not to mention, they can't get much better graphics than more FPS for Crysis in HD. Consoles are starting to go beyond the budgets of gaming companies. I really don't see the PS3 or X360 having any problem running any games in Hi-Def for at least 4 years. Unless more games follow in the steps of Crysis, but seeing as it was labeled such a failure because nothing could run it, I don't see that happening.

Just my two cents, I just think consoles are getting ahead of their times compared to games.

[Fantmx]

Please explain why you think so. I highly believe that MS will do the same thing and screw over all the X360 users. Unless their next console reads the same sort of games, but also allows BR or something, I don't see any sort of greater advantage of a new console in gamers' eyes except to feed MS cashcow. Maybe one advantage... that it doesn't RRoD for over 40% of it's customer base.

The whole 5-year cycle cannot keep up-to-date. Anything beyond what the PS3 and X360 have to offer, even in 2 years is going to be a very high-priced item. Not to mention, they can't get much better graphics than more FPS for Crysis in HD. Consoles are starting to go beyond the budgets of gaming companies. I really don't see the PS3 or X360 having any problem running any games in Hi-Def for at least 4 years. Unless more games follow in the steps of Crysis, but seeing as it was labeled such a failure because nothing could run it, I don't see that happening.

Just my two cents, I just think consoles are getting ahead of their times compared to games.

The reason Microsoft dropped support for the first Xbox is because of the agreement they had with NVIDIDA. Microsoft had to pay NVIDIA what they deemed an unfair price for each graphics chip. The end result was the two companies going into arbitration and settling the dispute there. That is the reason they dropped support for the first Xbox, not because they wanted to "screw" the consumer like all the uneducated kids that think it is cool to bash Microsoft for everything they do claim.

This post has been edited by Fantmx: May 9 2008, 03:25 PM

[Ranger72]

They don't have much of a choice. By 2010 the PS3 will be outselling the 360 at such a rate they will need to do something.

The very thing that caused the 360 to be such a huge success is the very thing that is now beginning to hold it back. They need to release a console with media that holds far more data than a regular DVD.

Over the next couple years developers that originally jumped to the 360 will be instead focusing on the PS3 that does not limit their creativity potential like the 360 does.

I am fully aware that there are many people out there not capable of looking from outside the box to see the big picture but it will become very clear as time moves on.

I really don't see the PS3 or X360 having any problem running any games in Hi-Def for at least 4 years. Unless more games follow in the steps of Crysis, but seeing as it was labeled such a failure because nothing could run it, I don't see that happening.

Not correct. Most games for the 360 and PS3 do not run in 1080p and many don't even run at 720p. Being rendered in 640p and upscaled to 720 or 1080 does not make true HD. As 1080p TV's come down to a price level that the average consumer can buy they will start to demand true 1080p games.

In case you are wondering there is a huge difference when running a true 1080p game on a full 1080p TV instead of up scaled 640p games.

[sabbath_dude]

Please explain why you think so. I highly believe that MS will do the same thing and screw over all the X360 users. Unless their next console reads the same sort of games, but also allows BR or something, I don't see any sort of greater advantage of a new console in gamers' eyes except to feed MS cashcow. Maybe one advantage... that it doesn't RRoD for over 40% of it's customer base.

What benefit would it be to Microsoft to "screw over" all their existing 360 customers??. Do you think they would just do something like that for fun? . The reason support for the original Xbox was dropped so fast after the 360 launch was because it never made Microsoft ANY profit and actually cost them money with every unit sold. There was nothing they could do about this as they didn't own the CPU and GPU (maybe it was just the GPU I can't remember) designs so were unable to significantly cut the cost of manufacture to a profitable level. Sales for the original Xbox and attachment rates were never that good either so why keep pumping money into something that is almost certainly never going to turn a profit.

The 360 on the other hand is completely different. Microsoft have apparently been turning a profit on hardware sales for a while now and this time around they also have the freedom to fully redesign the console to cut manufacturing cost even further. The 360 appears to be more popular than the original and the attachment rate for games and accessories is the highest of any next gen system. Microsoft are making lots of money from the 360 so I can't see any reason why after they release the next Xbox they would suddenly stop support.

I'd also expect the next Xbox to have Blu-ray and be backwards compatible with at least some, if not all 360 games. And to say graphics can't improve much from what they are now is a little short sighted. I remember the days when I thought graphics couldn't get much better than my friends N64 .

This post has been edited by sabbath_dude: May 9 2008, 04:58 PM

[tutu]

So what does everyone think the product specs will be?

I'm putting my money on:

4 or 6-core PowerPC CPU (or possibly a dual core cell) 45nm
dual-core GPU DX10.1 or a single DX11 GPU 55nm
1GB RAM (I would like to see 2GB)
Motion sensing "360" controller
A new "Wii like remote" controller
Wireless etc.
Blu-Ray!!! (or possibly holographic DVD but it may be too early). They may push 4K resolution but once again probably too early!

This post has been edited by tutu: May 9 2008, 04:53 PM