Bruce Everiss about MrModchip Case Options

[Xbox-Scene]

Bruce Everiss about MrModchip Case Posted by XanTium | June 20 18:58 EST | News Category: Xbox360

Bruce Everiss, a veteran games marketer, blogged about the recent 'modchip' appeal MrModchip won in the UK: [QUOTE] Very bad news for any gaming enthusiast. The British appeals court say that modchips don't circumvent copyright protection. It is only by protecting copyright that game developers can be paid for their work. And if they aren't paid for their work then they won't make games as we have seen so many times before. [/QUOTE]

[SueMiBlitch]

modchips have allowed community developed software like XBMC that has extended the lifetime use of may xboxes (including my own). It allowed for creative process from people not interested in getting paid for their work and those who love the community

it is up to the authorities to catch people using modchips to sell copied games and making them pay the damages to the software developeres they have ripped off... i have no problem with that

those that provide modchips without instuction how to circumvent copy protection should be left alone

its not the sellers fault if someone uses their modchip for copyright infringement... just like its not the gun stores fault if someone uses a gun they bough to shoot someone, just like its not the bars fault if u drink and drive

[gAm3 Fr3aQu3]

modchips have allowed community developed software like XBMC that has extended the lifetime use of may xboxes (including my own). It allowed for creative process from people not interested in getting paid for their work and those who love the community

it is up to the authorities to catch people using modchips to sell copied games and making them pay the damages to the software developeres they have ripped off... i have no problem with that

those that provide modchips without instuction how to circumvent copy protection should be left alone

its not the sellers fault if someone uses their modchip for copyright infringement... just like its not the gun stores fault if someone uses a gun they bough to shoot someone, just like its not the bars fault if u drink and drive

I agree.
The 360 wouldn't be how it is today if it wasn't for the custom dashes available for the original XBOX after it's been mod'ed.

[majik655]

"...court say that modchips don't circumvent copyright protection..."


I did not read over the court case in detail but I have a hard time believing that a court actually
SAID modchips DON'T circumvent copyright protection...am I wrong?

I would probably guess MrModchips did not circumvent copyright protection... maybe the people he sold these modchips did but go get those people then if you even have proof of that.

But I seriously doubt any court would actually say that they DO NOT .

Unless it is like the gun thing... guns do not kill people ... people do.

Modchips do not circumvent copyright protection people do <--that I CAN see.

[HaredX]

I agree, can it Bruce, modchips have been around forever, look at all the amazing games that have come out this year. And you're trying to tell us that modchips have ruined the gaming industry? As Arnold would say "QUIT WHINING"

This post has been edited by HaredX: Jun 21 2008, 02:30 AM

[LockmanSal]

"...court say that modchips don't circumvent copyright protection..."
I did not read over the court case in detail but I have a hard time believing that a court actually
SAID modchips DON'T circumvent copyright protection...am I wrong?

I would probably guess MrModchips did not circumvent copyright protection... maybe the people he sold these modchips did but go get those people then if you even have proof of that.

But I seriously doubt any court would actually say that they DO NOT .

Unless it is like the gun thing... guns do not kill people ... people do.

Modchips do not circumvent copyright protection people do <--that I CAN see.

modchips dont circumvent copyright protection , the software that you can put in it can.

[1nsan3]

if modchips were only used to develop software that would be great.. but we all know thats not the case.. If i created games and they were getting pirated.. i would stop in a heart beat also...
would be nice to see some new software homebrew on the 360.. so far all we have is the ability to play backups... hence the griping from developers... Linux on the 360 is nice except ya have to do a hell of alot to get it on there... which tells me it isnt worth it ,, when i can just use it on my laptop...

[a94cobra]

I thought the case said something to sort of 'because the case was opened the copyright is broken" so it didn't matter as much what went on after that. and because they weren't trying him for that he was aquitted. Am I wrong?

[HotKnife420]

What a horrible response, spoken quite obtusely. The way it's written doesn't even sound like a disagreement with the courts, but rather like an expanded idea (ie: The courts said modchips don't circumvent copyrights, which is important, etc).

Anywayz, I believe the opinions of the vast majority of the x-s community on this issue go without saying

[nectar12]

its the end of video games as we know it lol

[mario_ps2]

Come on people, don't over react, this has been an issue ever since the ps1 was around.

It's not that easy to come up with a modchip and break the hardware, look at the ps3, almost 2 years have gone by and it still remains un-hacked...

[21cwSpanky]

Come on people, don't over react, this has been an issue ever since the ps1 was around.

It's not that easy to come up with a modchip and break the hardware, look at the ps3, almost 2 years have gone by and it still remains un-hacked...

That's because nobody cares about modding a PS3 as it allows homebrew out of the box. People who create modchips aren't the pirates, it's "hackers" who would rather analyze a system inside out rather than play games. Since the PS3 opens the door for you, there's no reason to break the window.


I'll also point out that the guy who "blogged" that is in the senior Marketing position. He doesn't actually do any work on the games whatsoever, his job is to sell as many copies as humanly possible. I'm currently 3/4 through my degree based around game design and it's something you have a passion for. You either do it because you enjoy it, or you don't, these programmers aren't making games because it will eventually land them a huge mansion on the beach. Hell a senior programming job makes about 60k a year, which is barely even middle class in the SF bay area which is where most programmers are.

This post has been edited by 21cwSpanky: Jun 21 2008, 05:57 AM

[sp1200]

STFU 2 the original blogger.

Piracy has been rampant since PS1 and even before. Consoles then and consoles since have done quite well, the industry is booming, game makers are raking in the dough... PC games are the most easily pirated and PEOPLE STILL MAKE DOUGH.

This post has been edited by sp1200: Jun 21 2008, 06:38 AM

[steveju]

if modchips were only used to develop software that would be great.. but we all know thats not the case.. If i created games and they were getting pirated.. i would stop in a heart beat also...

So the few hundred thousand people who actually do pay for your software don't mean jack to you? Wow, thank god you're not a developer.

[utopaline]

I agree with most of you, I think Mod Chips are great and bad at the same time. I mean yah they help you use backed up games...but what % or people really mod anyways, and the ones who copy/DL games were never going to buy it to begin with. I have 2 moded original XBOX's and I love them, I use them for media players. so what one poster said about making use of old hardware is right on.

And the real reason why the PS3 hasn't been cracked...noone cares. not cause its "open" already...ooohh I can add linyx and a new HD and surf the web(cause who the F*CK doesn't own a PC).

Well that's my 10 (2) cents worth