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post Jul 18 2008, 09:05 PM
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Lite-On Expected to Ship up to 5M Xbox 360 DVD Drives in 3Q08
Posted by XanTium | July 18 16:05 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From digitimes.com:
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Lite-On IT delivered four million DVD-ROM drives used in Xbox 360 consoles in the second quarter of 2008 and the shipment volume for the third quarter is estimated to increase by 20-25% to 4.8-5.0 million units, according to component suppliers in Taiwan.
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Full Story: digitimes.com




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post Jul 18 2008, 09:56 PM
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Umm, firmware please?
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post Jul 18 2008, 09:57 PM
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Well looks like this is going to stop or at least slow down part of the scene wanting the newest console out while also being able to play backed up games with, which imo is a good thing all bullshit aside.
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post Jul 18 2008, 10:50 PM
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It will be hacked just maybe not this year.

I have an Elite with a BenQ drive i brought in December. I also have a refurb unit with a MS28 drive which i let my sister use for the time being.

Should i buy an Arcade system with a BenQ drive and keep in the closet incase this drive doesn't get hacked at all?
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post Jul 18 2008, 11:15 PM
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4 million of the dvd drives already?how?

M$ just said theyve only sold 20million systems alltogether how could they have already produced 4 million of these drive? huh.gif

Well im glad I got a benq but the time will come when Ill prob get a new system so this drive really needs to get hacked :] unsure.gif Anybody ever figure out to read the firmware?
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post Jul 19 2008, 12:00 AM
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They must be pretty confident this bad boy is unhackable sad.gif
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post Jul 19 2008, 12:09 AM
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I read an article from xbox hacker and it seems this is a tough one and nobody is really working on it. This drive was designed for more tight security measures against modding it as they do know whats been going on for a while now.

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post Jul 19 2008, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Dark Seraph @ Jul 18 2008, 11:51 PM) *

4 million of the dvd drives already?how?

M$ just said theyve only sold 20million systems alltogether how could they have already produced 4 million of these drive? huh.gif

Well im glad I got a benq but the time will come when Ill prob get a new system so this drive really needs to get hacked :] unsure.gif Anybody ever figure out to read the firmware?


Produced, shipped, and sold are three completely different terms.
  • Units must be produced, before they can ship.
  • Units must be shipped, before they can be sold.
If 20 million units are sold, there are more than likely a number of units sitting on store shelves (meaning more than 20 million have shipped. If stores have stock, then the producer's stock has depleted, and more units will be produced, waiting to be shipped.

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Jul 19 2008, 12:36 AM) *

They must be pretty confident this bad boy is unhackable sad.gif


They very well could be, but I think it's more of a direct business decision (financial or other) than a move to combat piracy (after all, if it were to be hacked, that means they've just ordered 5 million hackable drives. They were probably confident in the 79FLs too (before the passkey), but they didn't order as many.

They're also about to support full game installs that only require a disc to prove you have a real copy of the game you're playing in your possession at the time of play. I'm sure they're much more focused on making sure THAT doesn't become the new target.

Personally, I think the fact that there is no firmware hack for this drive may be the biggest asset to the scene's progress, as the system with the highest interest will no longer be "backup friendly", and pressure for a solution will manifest. If the drive is truly unhackable, the system itself probably isn't, and we may finally get a better foot in the door for homebrew.

Keeping my fingers crossed, on this one smile.gif

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QUOTE(Just a Shadow @ Jul 18 2008, 02:33 PM) *

Well looks like this is going to stop or at least slow down part of the scene wanting the newest console out while also being able to play backed up games with, which imo is a good thing all bullshit aside.


Well I have 2 benq's I have for when every a buddy comes over, and just gotten a 3rd one BRAND new, and leaving that benq in the closet. Cal me crazy but I cant stand to not game during a crisis.
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Does anyone know which DVD drive will be in the new Jasper coming out this August?

And if you do know what have you heard about it, is it a good drive?
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post Jul 19 2008, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(NeedyGreedyThing @ Jul 19 2008, 02:27 AM) *

Does anyone know which DVD drive will be in the new Jasper coming out this August?

And if you do know what have you heard about it, is it a good drive?


If they have shipped 4 million, i'm pretty sure that we will be seing this drive in the new units (remember that jasper has not being confirmed)
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QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Jul 19 2008, 12:53 AM) *

Produced, shipped, and sold are three completely different terms.
  • Units must be produced, before they can ship.
  • Units must be shipped, before they can be sold.
If 20 million units are sold, there are more than likely a number of units sitting on store shelves (meaning more than 20 million have shipped. If stores have stock, then the producer's stock has depleted, and more units will be produced, waiting to be shipped.
They very well could be, but I think it's more of a direct business decision (financial or other) than a move to combat piracy (after all, if it were to be hacked, that means they've just ordered 5 million hackable drives. They were probably confident in the 79FLs too (before the passkey), but they didn't order as many.

They're also about to support full game installs that only require a disc to prove you have a real copy of the game you're playing in your possession at the time of play. I'm sure they're much more focused on making sure THAT doesn't become the new target.

Personally, I think the fact that there is no firmware hack for this drive may be the biggest asset to the scene's progress, as the system with the highest interest will no longer be "backup friendly", and pressure for a solution will manifest. If the drive is truly unhackable, the system itself probably isn't, and we may finally get a better foot in the door for homebrew.

Keeping my fingers crossed, on this one smile.gif


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...or it could be the cat and mouse game is just that "cat and mouse". What if a solution is already in the works and the lid is just being kept on it. Why change the game so soon after it started? Why not let it run for a while and get a good supply in the wild before throwing the ball back to the other side. Just some philosophy there...


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QUOTE(Dark Seraph @ Jul 19 2008, 08:51 AM) *

4 million of the dvd drives already?how?

M$ just said theyve only sold 20million systems alltogether how could they have already produced 4 million of these drive? huh.gif
Pretty piss-easy to work out where a lot of them went - into repaired/refurbished consoles.

I.e. all of the consoles coming back from all of the repair centres.

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post Jul 19 2008, 01:18 PM
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All of the 4 million drives shipped last quater could be in shiny new 60gb 360s just waiting in a warehouse for the 20gbs to get sold. A clearence sale in July leaves MS in good position for a real price drop this holiday season.
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