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> Xbox 360 will outperform PS3 in software for years - Mattrick
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post Jul 24 2008, 01:20 PM
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Xbox 360 will outperform PS3 in software for years - Mattrick
Posted by XanTium | July 24 08:20 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
From eurogamer.net:
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When we asked to clarify if he [Microsoft's Don Mattrick] meant Xbox 360's next three or four years of software will outperform PS3's, and that PS3 will be unable to make up the ground, he replied: "That's what I said."

Mattrick famously hung the Microsoft's E3 press conference on the claim that Xbox 360 will defeat PS3 worldwide in this generation of consoles and told Eurogamer that he came out and said it because he was fed up of being asked about it.
"I did the math, I did the math a different way, I did the math...there was no equation that I came to where I got a different answer, and I went, 'You know what? This is getting boring,'" he said. "Like, instead of everyone standing on the sidelines trying to hedge, I'm just going to say it."
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post Jul 24 2008, 02:31 PM
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Argh! Enough with the vacuous statements from microsoft! You'd think it was the the company with the most amount of outlandish statements that makes or breaks a consoles success.
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post Jul 24 2008, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(clogicgmather @ Jul 24 2008, 03:07 PM) *

Argh! Enough with the vacuous statements from microsoft! You'd think it was the the company with the most amount of outlandish statements that makes or breaks a consoles success.



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post Jul 24 2008, 03:45 PM
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I miss Peter Moore !
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post Jul 24 2008, 03:48 PM
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This rubbish just proves my point in the statement I made in the other thread.
It's a few weeks sales MS stop with all the bullshit statements
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post Jul 24 2008, 04:09 PM
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When we asked to clarify if he [Microsoft's Don Mattrick] meant Xbox 360's next three or four years of software will outperform PS3's, and that PS3 will be unable to make up the ground, he replied: "That's what I said."


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This rubbish just proves my point in the statement I made in the other thread. It's a few weeks sales MS stop with all the bullshit statements.


3 to 4 years is a long time. But then again software sales have dwarfed both Sony and Wii so far this gen with no signs of Sony making a comeback from that great software/attach rate chasm anytime soon. Definitely not in two years. 3 years if there's a drastic change in trends (unlikely). Consider Sony is riding alot on PS2 franchises like FF13/MGS to save the PS3.

So calling it a bs statement is quite wrong.

Now if you want to discuss whether they should be saying these things. . .
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post Jul 24 2008, 04:23 PM
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Mattrick needs to shut his filthy mouth. That bastard has been poisoning the MS water supply ever since he started representing them.
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post Jul 24 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(Giga_Death @ Jul 24 2008, 04:45 PM) *

3 to 4 years is a long time. But then again software sales have dwarfed both Sony and Wii so far this gen with no signs of Sony making a comeback from that great software/attach rate chasm anytime soon. Definitely not in two years. 3 years if there's a drastic change in trends (unlikely). Consider Sony is riding alot on PS2 franchises like FF13/MGS to save the PS3.

So calling it a bs statement is quite wrong.

Now if you want to discuss whether they should be saying these things. . .

Please learn to read what I said. I know you find it difficult because it's me.
Statements
Plural...understand? The reference was not to an individual sentence line or statement but a general comment on the nonsense of releasing this whole host of statements that are nothing different in large parts to the crap spouted by analysts.
Perhaps he is right on the software . i don't know and wouldn't try to guess the future. It's not the figures or predictions it's the constant stream of reassurance.
The reference "It's a few weeks" sales refers to the recent figures since the MGS4 release. IE
Why the hell are they releasing all these predictions on everything, telling us how much better they will be etc... surely a few weeks loss in hardware sales has not got them edgy to the point they have to do this. Makes them sound like Sony
Oh and your assessment is just as much speculation as any body elses. You have no way to predict the next 6 months with any accuracy let alone the next 2 to 3 years. Not an analyst at all are you?
Now if you wish to discuss what I meant and not your usual interpretation then go ahead.

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post Jul 24 2008, 05:47 PM
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Don Mattrick and other top M$ execs are probably all sitting in a room right now taking bets on who from Sony will deliver a rebuttal and what they will say. I give it a few days and we will hear something from Sony about this.
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post Jul 24 2008, 06:57 PM
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Is it fair to say [bearing in mind that I as a person have never met him]
...that I hate Mattrick?

Come back, Peter...please!

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post Jul 24 2008, 07:49 PM
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I'm quite surprised he hasn't just gone all out and said they're bigger than Jesus.

It's annoying from a console perspective, especially when you consider the hardware problems this has had. It's almost as if they are shouting this loud to drown out the noise of the RRoD.
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post Jul 24 2008, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(Chancer @ Jul 24 2008, 09:17 AM) *

Why the hell are they releasing all these predictions on everything, telling us how much better they will be etc... surely a few weeks loss in hardware sales has not got them edgy to the point they have to do this. Makes them sound like Sony


I would guess that's exactly why they are doing this kind of thing... we all know the Sony hype machine is nothing to sell short and a good part of it is saying what sounds good so that those who WANT to believe can continue hanging on what you say to back them up; regardless of how much what you say is fact and how much it really matters anyway.

The problem with the general public is that you have to keep them fed with a constant stream of yummy tidbits. Never mind that the value of the tidbits in terms of actual news is about the equivalent of twinkies in a food diet, you just have to give them something.

Sadly it becomes a game of "you lose if you don't" whereby whover says the most, sounds the sweetest and stays on peoples minds (regardless of how true or valuable what you say is) is likely to win points.

If Sony speculates on something and MS keeps it's trap shut knowing they can only offer equally worthless speculation, MS loses becuase while you and I know we didn't miss anything, Joe Public probably doesn't and any sale that can be made (whether based on actual fact or on feelguide rumor) is still a sale and adds to the momentum of your product.

Just like every political candidate promises the same empty things that the others all promise, and we know they are lame empty promises, if they didn't promise them, they would fall right off the publics radar. We want to believe some things and we need you to tell us you will bring those things (even if deep down inside we know you won't) or else we won't even consider the other things you promise.

MS has to keep speculating on positives so their fanboys can keep the momentum going. If they don't, the Sony fanboys will be going unchecked. It's a stupid battle to have to fight, but I see it as part of the business.

Those who know or are smart enough to figure it out will always be annoyed by the methods used to garner the interest and support of those who can't figure it out and thus prefer to cling to garbage rather than cling to nothing.


It's a sad state, but it is what it is... at least that's how I see it.

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post Jul 24 2008, 08:22 PM
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They sold more consoles because:

1st. 360 was release a year before than ps3 and Wii.
2nd. 3RLOD makes people buy 2 or more systems.
3rd. You can play pirated games (same for the Wii).

As for software, well, later last year, the titles for ps3 and 360 started to look the same.
The ps3 is supposed to be more powerful than the 360 and the Blu-Ray drive even better. So we will see.
You can take MGS4 as an example of what is comming.

About this guy, he is an arrogant.

just my 2 cents.
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post Jul 24 2008, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(Chancer)
The reference was not to an individual sentence line or statement but a general comment on the nonsense of releasing this whole host of statements that are nothing different in large parts to the crap spouted by analysts.


So basically you're just upset he said something in order to "reassure customers"? Don't care about what he said being a valid assesment or not?

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. . .nothing different in large parts to the crap spouted by analysts.


Not treally. The status quo for this gen so far is that the 360 is pwning in software sales against both PS3 and Wii - agree or disagree?

*Xbox 360 has a record-setting attach rate of 7.6 games per console, the highest attach rate in history for a console at this point in its lifecycle. (April NPD data)

To say it's "bs/analyst crap" that this trend is likely to continue is incongruous.

No really, let me hear your detailed breakdown why this is bs, and why this trend conitnuing is bs? Or are you going to ignore -what- he said and just be throw a tantrum that he said it? I could understand if it really was bs, but I don't think it is.

QUOTE(Chancer)
Oh and your assessment is just as much speculation as any body elses. You have no way to predict the next 6 months with any accuracy let alone the next 2 to 3 years. Not an analyst at all are you?


So in regards to his assessment. . . why is it reasonable to assume there will be a massive spike PS3 in software sales that will catch up to the 360, in a year or two let alone 6 months? Is it not more reasonable to assume the status quo will remain? For example, they'll probably sell more ff13's on the PS3, but enough to make a difference thus far? Doubt it.

"Oh, no one can predict the future so it's bs" is quite a poor rebuttal in this case.
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post Jul 24 2008, 08:37 PM
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Once again you show your ignorance of what I actually said and repeat the same drivel you usually do.
Do me the courtesy of actually reading my 2nd explanation of what I said.
let me make it easier for you because I have very little time for you to be honest
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Perhaps he is right on the software . I don't know and wouldn't try to guess the future. It's not the figures or predictions it's the constant stream of reassurance.

If you still don't get it, tough shit. I can't be bothered with your games..the same ones you play in reply to any of my posts. Very obvious in here when you ignore other much more controversial stuff.

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I would guess that's exactly why they are doing this kind of thing... we all know the Sony hype machine is nothing to sell short and a good part of it is saying what sounds good so that those who WANT to believe can continue hanging on what you say to back them up; regardless of how much what you say is fact and how much it really matters anyway.

My point is I don't think they need to emphasise this via all these statements. It is very obvious anyway for the most part and the amount of stuff all hot on the heels of E3 gives and impression off that I don't think is needed. Unless he is trying to draw a response from Sony. I don't think he is the best spokesperson they have had. before his appointment there was always an air of confidence and calm in the statements. they were not all predictive jabs. I preferred the stance whereby they responded to a sack of shit spat out by Sony, in a cool collected manner.

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