Can Microsoft's Xbox 360 Hold its Second-Place Ranking? Options

[Xbox-Scene]

Can Microsoft's Xbox 360 Hold its Second-Place Ranking? Posted by XanTium | September 4 16:57 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From schaeffersresearch.com: [QUOTE] According to an interview with The Wall Street Journal, a Microsoft exec noted that about 75% of hardware sales take place following a price cut below $200. What's more, GameStop (GME) has boosted its expectations for Xbox 360 sales following the price drop, telling BusinessWeek that it expects sales to jump "anywhere from 1.5 times to 3 times current levels" as a result. But while MSFT expects to continue to outpace Sony's PS3 sales, Nintendo may already be untouchable. In an interview with BusinessWeek, Don Mattrick, senior vice-president of Microsoft's Interactive Entertainment Business, said "I'm not at a point where I can say we're going to beat Nintendo." [/QUOTE] Full Story: schaeffersresearch.com

[Replex]

I hate even comparing the 360 to the Wii, they are not aimed at the same audience by a long shot. If people want true gaming value they will go to the 360, if they want the entertainment value that the Wii provides for all of 5 hours, they will do that.

Just on a side note, the ~10 people I know that have a Wii have played it for no more than a few days before becoming bored with it.

[BoNg420]

Bah, the Wii is just still a stupid gimmick. It gets old fast. Its a fad. People want it just to have it because they are hard to find. The Xbox still has some of the best games, PS3 could get there, altough I can pretty much play any game from PS3 on xbox.

The 360 has better attachment sales, the wii just fails.

This post has been edited by BoNg420: Sep 5 2008, 01:37 AM

[utopaline]

well, I dunno, but you are right, the Wii and the 360 are not in the same category. It's like saying that McDonald's sells more hamburgers than KFC, 2 different customers, and 2 different products. I have a Wii, and yes I do love it, but I play my 360 WAY more than the Wii, mainly because I own 3 games for the Wii, (2 of which came with something else, Wii Sports and Wii Play) But my 360 I have well over 15 games and play alot more.

And as for the price drop...way to go M$ about time someone else gets the break. Plus if you look at the trends for Consoles. noone really ever dominates for more than 2 in a row. Nintendo and SNES, PS1 and PS2, so we will see if Sony can break that trend...I hope not.


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[chorizo1]

Wii is still #1, PERIOD.

Fad or NOT.

[loose.unit8]

Well if we are comparing the Wii to the 360, how many sales have casio calculators had? I mean the one with the games on it? Maybe casio is actually leading this generation!

[0794]

Wii is still #1, PERIOD.

Fad or NOT.

true, the Wii is #1 with console sales but is doing very poorly with attach rates for games and accessories. seems most people are just buying the Wii and using the Wii sports until they are tired of it.

it will be curious to see just how much the 360 sales pick up at this "magical" price point.

[chorizo1]

LOL, Game Politics are Funny as hell.

FACT: Wii is best selling console

Reaction: "well it's a fad, for kids, no one plays it, Ps3 sucks, Miyamoto is a closet muslim, and doesn't wear a flag pin, Sony supplied bullets to the Japaneese in WWII, blah blah blah, insert spin here (__________)"

FACT: Wii is STILL best selling console

Fanboys, get a grip, just cause your system isn't #1 doesn't mean it's shit. (unless it has 3RROD)

This post has been edited by chorizo1: Sep 5 2008, 05:52 AM

[Chancer]

All these people buying the Wii and not playing them after 10 days?? Then why is there still massive new sales?
It's the same tired old argument but as stated the fact is it is still easily outselling the 360.
Testament to the machine when despite it's inferior graphics it can capture the market with Wii Sports and Wii Fit. The 360 or PS3 has not managed that.
I don't see the Wii as competition for the 360. I think a lot of Wii owners will also have a PS3 or 360 as well but you can't deny it is the top seller and a good machine at what it does.
I don't see why people get so threatened simply because a console sells more than the one they own. It should only matter if you have investment in MS and your shares are falling because of it.

[scottmuller28]

The Wii is selling well due to the fact they are clever at marketing. People are buying them for the wii fit & mario related games. Some health clinics have them in the Gym which markets well to single male females with great income. The wii can be reinvented every few months with new gadgets aiming at different markets.

I think long term there will be more 360s sold than Ps3, but there will be more working Ps3 than 360s in 5 years time!!!

This post has been edited by scottmuller28: Sep 5 2008, 09:44 AM

[Norco]

I would be EXTREMELY surprised if Nintendo isn't artificially restricting its supplies to drum up demand. I've been in stores where I finally see 1 on the shelf and think, man should I buy it? It's only 200 or whatever, and there's only 1 left. It makes you feel like you have some hot item that everyone wants.

At least MS is admitting they don't know if they can catch console numbers. Most important thing is how much they make overall. Sure there are more Wii consoles out there, but everyone knows you make more money on software, just like the printer business, who cares how many printers you have, it's about the ink. And like we've seen it covered a million times already, those consoles are going after different gamers. A wii gamer isn't necessarily a 360 gamer, but a PS3 gamer sure as hell is a 360 gamer, so keep beating Sony.

[teknow]

. A wii gamer isn't necessarily a 360 gamer, but a PS3 gamer sure as hell is a 360 gamer, so keep beating Sony.

If you are saying potentially the majority class of games made for the ps3 fit the 360 then I would agree. However; and I've said this before, until Microsoft gets a hold of hardware quality ( I understand this will be soon) & 360 becomes a better media center, (I understand this will be never) it is unlikely it will enter my household again . Eventually the PS3 will be cheap enough to substitute most computers in my household as I don't game on the PC much these days.

The PS3 will get so cheap and is so capable with with spare parts that will be easily available for a decade or better to come; for someone with the small bit of ability it takes to turn the PS3 into a full pc/mediacetner it's crazy not to. That... will turn the tide of hardware sales and as the game library expands, developers become more comfortable, more capable.. I believe all factors will play a role in pushing the PS3 to # 2. I'm not sure the fad that is the Wii can be overcome. It seems to have undying appeal accross the standard and nonstandard demographics game marketing usually aims at; even if it doesn't appeal to me.

*edit* Linux familiarity or fear of plays a role I hadn't factored in well enough. Perhaps a distro that works well enough out of the box will be put in place. There are still some fundamental operations under Ubuntu that throw lifetime Windows users for a loop though so... and currently the networking (between PC's Linux or Windows) leaves much to be desired even though it is what could be termed functional when not trying to stream video.

This post has been edited by teknow: Sep 5 2008, 02:37 PM

[Kerii]

Breaking news!

McDonald's serves more hamburgers than Black Angus!

Story at 11.

[Liquidvlade Hiraduo]

WHO CARES??!?

Seriously, its all about YOU having fun. Wii being number 1, well good for them! Dont sit and pull your hair out because your favorite console isnt on top!

I mainly play 360 but I play both, all brawlers need a fix on the Wii with SSBB. a game that you wont find in any other console.

[twistedsymphony]

The Wii selling more than the 360 is like saying the iPod is selling better than the 360.

the reason the Wii is selling so well is because it's tapped into a NEW MARKET. People who haven't bought a console since the NES, or maybe they've never even owned a console are going out and buying a Wii.

This is great for Nintendo but it has almost no bearing on the rest of the gaming market.

You can't even compare consoles that don't even get the same versions of the x-plat games.

If the 360 is in a 3 way race with anything it's competing against the PS3 and PCs... NOT the Wii...

I don't think anyone is out there really scratching their heads over getting a Wii or getting a 360 as their one and only choice for a console this generation.