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> Rumour: Intel wants Larrabee in Xbox 720
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post Sep 5 2008, 12:15 AM
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Rumour: Intel wants Larrabee in Xbox 720
Posted by XanTium | September 4 19:15 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
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Intel is pulling out all the stops to get its Larrabee GPUs inside Microsoft's next-gen Xbox (Xbox 720) or another console, according to The Inquirer citing unnamed sources.

As rumours go this doesn't sound too off the mark. MS needs a graphics chip for the Xbox 720, and Intel, along with NVIDIA and AMD, will have suitable parts available. The bigger surprise would be that MS refused to even hear Intel's sales pitch.

But the Inq has gone further to say that Intel is doing everything it can to table an deal MS can't refuse, going so far as offering to do the engineering work on thermal design (hopefully ensuring we won't ever see a repeat of the RROD nightmare), and is even prepared to hand over the rights so that MS can get the chip manufactured at any fab it chooses.

The main motivation behind all this for Intel is developer support. The PC graphics card installed base is dominated by NV with around 60% and AMD with 30% (according to the Valve Hardware Survey), and it's just basic economics that games developers will devote most of their resources to design and test their new titles on these two families of cards.
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post Sep 5 2008, 01:55 AM
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intel sucks as a gfx card maker and they knoe it. mainly being they wont get off shared memory. and for the market they targeted (onbord crap) that was fine but now they wanna make stuff as good a ati or nivida and are not doing well. not to say they have not improved there low end cards they have but they still come nowhere close to being something worth your time.

it would be a bad idea for m$ to use there cards to power the cpu the 720or whatever would be underpowered compared to the ps4 lol.
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post Sep 5 2008, 02:31 AM
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uhh.gif Maybe if they can cut the TDP by a factor of 5 - last I heard it was 300 watts.
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post Sep 5 2008, 02:46 AM
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im pretty sure intel brought nvidia so its pretty safe to say that an nvidia card will be in the xbox 720 and even if an intel card goes in it im sure it will be far greater than any card in the motherboard but i wish intel would use there cpu in the 720

lol i wanna see a core 2 quad in there with 45nm lmao

EDIT nevermind i saw the term larrabee gpu so i guess it will be a intel gpu

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post Sep 5 2008, 02:57 AM
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Nice

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post Sep 5 2008, 03:09 AM
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sounds like a lot of "courting" will take place from all companies involved - hope that MS will make the right hardware choice and not just the right fiscal move...
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post Sep 5 2008, 03:36 AM
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MS should stick to IBM for the CPU as they currently make the fastest and the best cpu's & if the current PC trend of ATI on top continues then ATi as there graphics chip something equivalent to todays 4870 would be great biggrin.gif .
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post Sep 5 2008, 03:57 AM
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QUOTE(D3M0N2008 @ Sep 4 2008, 11:12 PM) *

MS should stick to IBM for the CPU as they currently make the fastest and the best cpu's & if the current PC trend of ATI on top continues then ATi as there graphics chip something equivalent to todays 4870 would be great biggrin.gif .


your kidding about that right..the whole intel thing

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Initial reception for Intel's latest integrated graphics chipset hasn't been very good, and Intel isn't denying that.

IT all started with a booth set up by AMD for the sole reason of proving that Intel's G45 chipset doesn't accelerate Blu-ray playback while theirs does. "It was clearly not an apples-to-apples comparison" Aaron Brezenski wrote on the Intel Software Network. "But the fact that the Intel CPU was pegged at 100% is just as clearly an indication hardware acceleration was not working. "

Aaron then addressed the poor Blu-ray playback score in online reviews. "Intel's less than stellar scores are due to a player software issue: properly configured advanced de-interlacing will result in scores 20+ points higher", he explained. "Still not perfect scores, but coming within the realm of workable, and my hope is that subsequent driver tweaks will improve this even further."

Aaron pointed out that both Arcsoft Total Media Theater player and PowerDVD play Blu-ray movies on Core 2 Duo CPU and G45 chipset at a CPU utilization of less than 20%.

Finally, Aaron confessed to 2 major problems with the new chipset: first, it stutters every 15 seconds when playing a Blu-ray movie at 24 Hz. This problem was present in Intel's G965 and G36 chipsets before Intel was forced to remove that refresh rate through a driver update. "Some information implied (at the time) this may have been an issue with the SDVO chips used at the time for HDMI with Intel graphics, but the fact that the issue is still there on G45 tells us that this was not an accurate assessment."

The second problem is that 7.1 surround sound doesn't work and Blu-ray media cannot be played through a receiver; this is due to a problem with the repeater mode which is needed for both. "The standard COPP protocols that all of these players use do not support the use of repeaters (even though our competition appears to be ignoring these strictures), and the software players don't yet use OPM (which does support repeaters)", Aaron explained. "This is all very well and good, and we're probably in the right on this regarding supporting the spec: but the end user doesn't see this."


So i hope Intel stays away from the xbox but MS does need a better GPU then the one they made as its already cost them more money then its worth somthing like 1 Billion dollars
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post Sep 5 2008, 06:12 AM
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Intel just wants to do this to validate themselves in the graphics market, or else nobody will take them serious.
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post Sep 5 2008, 06:25 AM
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people take them serious now?
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post Sep 5 2008, 06:33 AM
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OMG! FUK NO!
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post Sep 5 2008, 07:39 AM
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can't we just call it xbox 3 and not the overly used clichéd "xbox 720"
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post Sep 5 2008, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(juntistik @ Sep 5 2008, 03:15 AM) *

can't we just call it xbox 3 and not the overly used clichéd "xbox 720"


but if we did that it whould take M$ even longer to think of a new name
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post Sep 5 2008, 08:28 AM
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m$ will not use a x86 cpu again on a xbox being of its ability to be hacked easy it would be xbox original all over again. gpu might be a different story.
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m$ will not use a x86 cpu again on a xbox being of its ability to be hacked easy it would be xbox original all over again. gpu might be a different story.


its going to get hacked regardless no matter what they do. I have to give it to Sony for putting Linux on the PS3 with that on there out of the box there was no need to hack the PS3 just to port Linux to it by that they already stopped half of the good hackers out there from messing with it that and the with the Blu-Ray only games to much money to pirate and I still feel that's one of the main reasons why Sony is staying ahead in the piracy dept as far as the PS3 goes. Bottom line as long as M$ continues to deny the linux operating system in all things ( not saying i blame them rival OS and all) there will always be large groups of people going " How can we make this work" i still do feel if the 360 offered a OS like windows or Linux well maybe not windows then DVD firmware hack may have never come into play and if it did not the level we've seen. But with that also said and I'm contraindicating myself here on this due to the DVD firmware hack i feel M$ has gained sales look at it like this you have a friend who says i want to get a next gen system but what should i buy. You having custom firmware on your 360 will say oh dude get a 360 and i can flash it for you without even thinking about what you just said to help out a friend. Now M$ just made a hardware sale bottom line and even though they won't admit it and there no real hardcore proof with what i am about to say but you have to think of it on a level of well its hacked which means people can play copied games which means M$ studios may loose money on the game aspect BUT they still need our hardware to play it.

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