Jasper Xbox 360 Pro Consoles: No Internal MU? Options

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Jasper Xbox 360 Pro Consoles: No 256 Internal MU? Posted by XanTium | December 29 23:54 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From pdatoday.com: [QUOTE] Now for the important info; the unit was ordered from Amazon on December 22nd. I was pleasantly surprised to discover the Xbox 360 Pro unit I received was actually a Jasper revision. The unit did come with a Falcon revision power supply as I have read can be the case with some of the new Arcade units. Items that seem to indicate this 360 Pro unit is a Jasper revision: 12.1 amp power requirement, manufacture date Nov 2 2008, proper Jasper keyed power supply input, Team: FDOU, Lot No: 0845X Update: A few people have asked and there appears to be no added memory like the 256MB found on board the new Arcade units. The console did require an update to install NXE (New Xbox Experience). [/QUOTE] Full Story: pdatoday.com

[t_mac_ca]

I wonder if it would be possible to flash a XeXDK NAND to a jasper with the 256mb internal memory?? Maybe this was the reason for the revision.

[XanTium]

There are no internal pictures of the PRO Jasper atm.
I wonder what flash chip they used. A simple 16MB chip like older versions? 256MB but blocking axx to use it as internal MU or something in between, enough to allow full NXE install on the internal memory. Would be kinda sad if HDD would be required on Jasper PRO/Elite for NXE.

[vincatzero]

what's the difference?

[spinr34]

could just be old supply for pro and elites. i have a huge feeling that eventually every 360 will have the onboard 256meg flash. unless it is cheaper to make two different versions. if so, /me shrugs.

[g8crapachino]

could just be old supply for pro and elites. i have a huge feeling that eventually every 360 will have the onboard 256meg flash. unless it is cheaper to make two different versions. if so, /me shrugs.

Technically, yes, it would be cheaper to manufacture without the 256meg flash.
Anyone who's worked in a motherboard or similiar SMT manufacturing plant should know what a Pick and Place machine is. It's very easy to program a Pick and Place machine to not insert certain components or replace one part with another during assembly. This actually makes it relatively trivial to manufacture different variations of the motherboard.

This post has been edited by g8crapachino: Dec 30 2008, 10:26 AM

[Shonk]

Im quite shocked the pro jaspers dont come with the internal mu
this makes the actual pro machine inferior now

[tabicat]

This is why I'm waiting six months before I upgrade to a Jasper. Not only will there be technical problems with the first Jaspers, but as this article shows, there are also supply chain issues.

[logicbomb.de]

Call me crazy, but if the Pro/elite already comes with a HDD, why bother including internal storage?


Only time will tell what these crazy bastards at MS are up to.

This post has been edited by logicbomb.de: Dec 30 2008, 07:39 PM

[M1zch13f_m0d5]

My jasper pro also does not include on board memory, but you got to think in this perspective for the arcades, wouldn't it be cheaper to put an internal mu in the arcade instead of including a external mu? The external mu was 512 mb and now the internals are only 256 mb. The old arcades had external but ms probably figured what the hell a we have a new board revision why dont we just slap the memory internal. Its cheaper. And we all kno m$ is pretty cheap sometimes.

[Bandit5317]

Interesting. If this turns out to be true, then Microsoft is getting complicated with the number of different motherboard revisions they're producing. This would make three different versions of the Jasper motherboard alone. One with no ram chips on bottom, one with internal storage, and one without for the pro and elite models.

[sinister slipknot]

And we all kno m$ is pretty cheap sometimes.

Agreed.

I'm not really surprised by this, as you know it's not necessary if you've got a 60/120GB hard drive. But then again i didn't expect MS to make 2 different variations of the Jasper mobo.

[Martinchris23]

My jasper pro also does not include on board memory, but you got to think in this perspective for the arcades, wouldn't it be cheaper to put an internal mu in the arcade instead of including a external mu? The external mu was 512 mb and now the internals are only 256 mb. The old arcades had external but ms probably figured what the hell a we have a new board revision why dont we just slap the memory internal. Its cheaper. And we all kno m$ is pretty cheap sometimes.

Although you can buy a 512MB MU, the Arcade shipped with a 256MB version.

[M1zch13f_m0d5]

I'm still wondering why m$ would go out of there way to make three different versions of the jasper mobo...M$ usally sticks to the simple routine of, all the same = less work and problems. I wonder what changed their minds on the jasper. Maybe a couple of the boards have something we all just aren't noticing, plans for something new maybe? If you think about it that would be the way to go, ship out three different revisions, watch which ones come back for repair most frequantly or have hardware failure, and determine witch revision is most stable and best all around running. And from there they could decide whether or not they wanted to go even further with the board that is stable, like onto new ideas or new technology. Just playing around with the board to see what they can and cant do with the new revisions.

DAMN YOU M$!!! YOUR WAYS WILL ALWAYS BE A SECRET!!!! lol

Ahhh the life of middle class pedestrian blows, we're never in the loop about nething. O well.

M1zch13f_m0d5

[jroc74]

About the different Jasper mobos: Remember, this is the same company that makes all those different versions of Windows Vista.

Reading the last post sounds like the idea they are going in with Vista and Windows 7.