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> Patcher: What Went Under-Reported at This Year's E3?
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post Jun 25 2009, 04:41 AM
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Patcher: What Went Under-Reported at This Year's E3?
Posted by XanTium | June 24 23:41 EST | News Category: Xbox360
 
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The announcement that I thought was missed was the opening of the Xbox Live Dashboard interface to the internet. Later this year, Microsoft will allow members to access last.fm and to select music, to access Netflix and instantly watch films/TV shows, to access Facebook and interact with other friends, and to access Twitter and post/read tweets.

In order for this to happen, Microsoft has to open up the Xbox Live interface and for the first time will let Xbox Live members use the built-in browser as a browser.

Admittedly, the selection is limited to these four sites, but it's a start, and is a glimpse into the future of the Xbox 360 as a home media/internet hub. I think that this announcement was far and away the most important one of the show, and think that the media completely missed its importance.
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post Jun 25 2009, 07:43 AM
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Maybe becuase they didnt release enough info about last.fm (such as bit rate, if it can be used while playing on line), and maybe becuase who wants to use just facebook and twitter on a 360? i bet you will have to select them in the dash to be able to use facebook and twitter
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post Jun 25 2009, 09:40 AM
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Im shocked that people still care what michael" I talk out my arse" patcher says.

He thinks that is the most important annoucment of the show????????? And there was me thinking it was about the games.

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post Jun 25 2009, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Jun 25 2009, 04:41 AM) *

In order for this to happen, Microsoft has to open up the Xbox Live interface and for the first time will let Xbox Live members use the built-in browser as a browser.

This guy not heard of web services? rolleyes.gif The XBOX won't use any sort of 'browser' dry.gif . It'll act as a client and use the web services of the sites.
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post Jun 25 2009, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Jun 25 2009, 05:11 PM) *

This guy not heard of web services? rolleyes.gif The XBOX won't use any sort of 'browser' dry.gif . It'll act as a client and use the web services of the sites.

Or it could scrape them, or (given that it's only four companies they have to make a deal with) each one could have a dedicated native client speaking some proprietary protocol.

I think it's highly unlikely you'll just be able to poison the DNS like you could with the PSP.

Web pages presented on the 360 would be complete ass for usability, anyway. They're designed to be used with a mouse and a monitor, not a pad and a TV. They just about work on the Wii, because the wiimote is almost a mouse and the text is very large.
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post Jun 26 2009, 11:24 AM
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hope some brillitant hacker can find a exploit in the system and then we could just use some sweet homebreww apps or even better linux( i no u can also use linux now but not witht he current uptodate systems).
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post Jun 27 2009, 06:41 AM
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QUOTE(MrFish @ Jun 25 2009, 01:17 PM) *


Web pages presented on the 360 would be complete ass for usability, anyway. They're designed to be used with a mouse and a monitor, not a pad and a TV. They just about work on the Wii, because the wiimote is almost a mouse and the text is very large.


They could always build in support for a USB mouse in such a browser. Also, you can already hook a 360 to a monitor, and with the rise of HDTV, it's less of an issue to do something text intensive like read web pages on such TV's compared with the mess it was on good ol SD CRT's.

I imagine the real issue with a browser (at least based with my use of the PSP's browser) would be things like not being able to install extensions, adblocking, stuff like that. Of course, the PSP's browser is really f'n slow too, but I assume the 360 could handle running a browser with speeds more comparable to a PC.
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post Jun 27 2009, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(MrFish @ Jun 25 2009, 02:17 PM) *
Web pages presented on the 360 would be complete ass for usability, anyway. They're designed to be used with a mouse and a monitor, not a pad and a TV.


While I could care less whether the 360 gets a browser or not, it wouldn't be too hard for Microsoft to add mouse support for the 360 - and there is already keyboard support in the 360.

Err. looks like tvv033 already mentioned this.

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post Jun 27 2009, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(tbb033 @ Jun 27 2009, 05:41 AM) *

They could always build in support for a USB mouse in such a browser. Also, you can already hook a 360 to a monitor, and with the rise of HDTV, it's less of an issue to do something text intensive like read web pages on such TV's compared with the mess it was on good ol SD CRT's.

Remember, the 360 is not a PC. The core of its brand message is that it is not a PC; it lives in the living-room, not in a geeky study, and it attaches to your TV not a geeky monitor*. Its peripherals are usable on your sofa, not a geeky desk. It's viewed from your sofa, not sat right infront of it like a geek. Its games and movies are social, not solitary.

To release a peripheral that requires a desk to power an application that is only interesting to one person up-close is a direct contradiction of its brand-message. Hell will freeze over before the 360 supports a mouse**.


* Note that you need a fucking gender-bender just to attach the 'VGA' lead to a VGA monitor!
** In released code. XDK had built-in mouse support with XMOUSE (X being the prefix for 'use this library and there's no way in hell we'll sign your code').
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QUOTE(MrFish @ Jun 27 2009, 04:15 PM) *

* Note that you need a fucking gender-bender just to attach the 'VGA' lead to a VGA monitor!
** In released code. XDK had built-in mouse support with XMOUSE (X being the prefix for 'use this library and there's no way in hell we'll sign your code').

Actually most new monitors have a female VGA port and use a separate cable to connect it to a computer rather than the attached cables of old monitors.
And isn't X just the the prefix for everything Xbox? Like XInput and XACT.
Facebook support would've been nicer if the screenshot feature worked everywhere rather than just in games made specifically for it. Isn't the guide drawn after the game? Couldn't it just dump the contents of the video buffer to a file? I don't know how it would be triggered, though.
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