QUOTE(thehump2001 @ Feb 18 2010, 06:41 PM)

Yeah no need for any of those shenanigans...
I finally got the guy to bring it out of the case it was 07-03-2009.
Thanks for the help.
Can anyone point me to a post from the lucky few that got those november 09 exploitables??
Im pretty sure ones with november dates (or dates after the usual june 18th cutoff) that are exploitable are coming back from M$ repair centers, not NIB xboxes. I got a couple back in december from repair that were still exploitable. I could be wrong but the odds are much higher on a repaired box than a newly manufactured one.