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> Warning: Consoles Still Connect To Xbox Live Despite Family Settings, Confirmed by sniffing outgoing UDP network traffic
Kiewee123
post Jul 29 2010, 08:09 PM
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I can confirm that only enabling restrictions 'Xbox LIVE Access' and 'Xbox Live Membership Creation' in 'Console Control' (in Family Settings) is NOT adequate protection for your Jtag flashed console.

I sniffed outgoing connections whilst running an Xbox1 game (this is in FSD if anyone is interested) because I was curious as to why I was greeted with 'you need to update' despite not being logged in to any profile, let alone on xbox live. This message would disappear if I removed the Ethernet cable (used to update FSD + FTP on LAN).

The console successfully connects to 65.55.42.183 using the kerbose service (handshake?), then connecting again afterward on 65.55.42.180 on UDP port 3074. The IP range 65.55.42.* is owned by Microsoft Corp, and is located in Bellevue in the US.

Evidently, despite the suggested precautions, our consoles are still capable of connecting online beknown to us. Microsoft could quite easily pull one off again and 'surprise us', as they did with the Ixtreme banning, with a forced update or such.

I highly suggest you either block all outgoing/incoming WAN traffic on your console's MAC address, or remove the ethernet cable entirely, particular if your console's R3T6 resistor has not been removed/shorted.

Finally, exercise extreme caution in all future updates, 9199 onwards. Microsoft could quite easily not only impose a ban on your Xbox LIVE account and console, but could remove your console's exploitabilty therefore rendering your jtag useless.

I thought I aught to share my findings with the community - please share your thoughts, I hope someone can prove me wrong.

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post Jul 29 2010, 08:27 PM
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I can confirm that only enabling restrictions 'Xbox LIVE Access' and 'Xbox Live Membership Creation' in 'Console Control' (in Family Settings) is NOT adequate protection for your Jtag flashed console.

I sniffed outgoing connections whilst running an Xbox1 game (this is in FSD if anyone is interested) because I was curious as to why I was greeted with 'you need to update' despite not being logged in to any profile, let alone on xbox live. This message would disappear if I removed the Ethernet cable (used to update FSD + FTP on LAN).

The console successfully connects to 65.55.42.183 using the kerbose service (handshake?), then connecting again afterward on 65.55.42.180 on UDP port 3074. The IP range 65.55.42.* is owned by Microsoft Corp, and is located in Bellevue in the US.

Evidently, despite the suggested precautions, our consoles are still capable of connecting online beknown to us. Microsoft could quite easily pull one off again and 'surprise us', as they did with the Ixtreme banning, with a forced update or such.

I highly suggest you either block all outgoing/incoming WAN traffic on your console's MAC address, or remove the ethernet cable entirely, particular if your console's R3T6 resistor has not been removed/shorted.

Finally, exercise extreme caution in all future updates, 9199 onwards. Microsoft could quite easily not only impose a ban on your Xbox LIVE account and console, but could remove your console's exploitabilty therefore rendering your jtag useless.

I thought I aught to share my findings with the community - please share your thoughts, I hope someone can prove me wrong.


Good job sniffing that out mate.
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Kiewee123   Warning: Consoles Still Connect To Xbox Live Despite Family Settings   Jul 29 2010, 08:09 PM
Inuyasha152   Interesting. If people still wanted to download ce...   Jul 29 2010, 09:00 PM
Maximize   is 3074 the port the xbox 360 uses? Id it possibl...   Jul 29 2010, 09:15 PM
Kiewee123   I too tried blocking certain ports, but this is st...   Jul 30 2010, 11:31 PM
ketty_yijun   So I came to this conclusion - the best way to b...   Nov 15 2010, 11:14 PM
stevec25   Thank you very much for taking the time to sniff a...   Jul 30 2010, 11:37 PM
Maximize   Ok I did some more to try to disable my connection...   Jul 31 2010, 03:11 AM
brandogg   Does this only happen if you launch the game from ...   Jul 31 2010, 07:01 AM
Spegs12   I thought this was the case. Had an unbanned jtag ...   Jul 31 2010, 07:12 AM
Haygar   Thats exactly what I feared and stupidly removed t...   Jul 31 2010, 09:29 AM
Kiewee123   Thats exactly what I feared and stupidly removed ...   Jul 31 2010, 09:51 PM
Maximize   yeah I pretty sure they have consoles search for a...   Jul 31 2010, 05:49 PM
Maximize   ok I can still copy games to hdd, can still play ...   Jul 31 2010, 11:51 PM
ZerOneX   ok I can still copy games to hdd, can still play...   Nov 6 2010, 10:52 PM
brandogg   I've run FSD on my JTAG'ed Jasper, and XBL...   Aug 1 2010, 07:19 AM
Haygar   I've run FSD on my JTAG'ed Jasper, and XB...   Aug 1 2010, 02:35 PM
old engineer   This should be stickied. Either way we need to b...   Aug 1 2010, 01:03 PM
thwack   Agree it should be stickied. AFAIK when a JTAG get...   Aug 1 2010, 02:46 PM
Maximize   the console wasnt modded or jtagged when I bought ...   Aug 1 2010, 05:54 PM
thwack   9199 just restores the 360's ability to save t...   Aug 1 2010, 06:07 PM
Kiewee123   Yes, the first connection is indeed a handshake as...   Aug 1 2010, 08:21 PM
GISJason   Try #FreeStyleDash on EFNet ;)   Aug 1 2010, 10:10 PM
Kiewee123   Try #FreeStyleDash on EFNet ;) I'll get at ...   Aug 2 2010, 12:53 AM
Mattie   I'll get at them tomorrow afternoon - it...   Aug 3 2010, 12:22 AM
Kiewee123   We're on the forums too :P NTP goes to pool.n...   Aug 3 2010, 02:23 PM
Aldanga   I know of consoles that haven't ever connected...   Sep 13 2010, 12:44 AM
dotfortun3   I am no lawyer, nor do I claim to know anything ab...   Oct 25 2010, 05:32 PM
LiTHiUM0XiD3   from what i can gather... u own the hardware... u ...   Nov 3 2010, 03:43 AM
jockthecock   I doubt anyone one get banned for connecting to li...   Nov 5 2010, 03:06 PM
danthaman673   The new TOS allows for silent updates! If the ...   Nov 7 2010, 05:33 AM
mechgamer123   sorry to gravedig here, but is there a list of dom...   Feb 18 2011, 09:41 PM
Magimaster   Sorry if this is a stupid question but, is the new...   May 6 2011, 05:04 PM
x Yo1nK x   im sure dashlaunch doesn't block live in the l...   May 6 2011, 07:46 PM
Magimaster   im sure dashlaunch doesn't block live in the ...   May 7 2011, 10:10 AM
firebuddie   For what it's worth...I am another poor sucker...   Sep 15 2011, 02:06 PM
Morning Call   im unsure why you guys arent just blocking the por...   Oct 3 2011, 10:56 PM
filter4ever   Remove or bypass R6T3! Castrate the bitch. M...   May 1 2013, 01:59 AM






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