durnago
Sep 12 2003, 09:56 PM
Anyone networking their xbox with a mac? The tcp/ip configurations are slightly different than a pc and I can't get my mac to network properly. I've used the settings from the networking topics sections and I've tried all possible combinations I can think of in the configuration settings using a crossover ethernet cable but I can't seem to get my computer or ftp program to recognize the xbox. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
BonerDoner
Sep 12 2003, 10:19 PM
Ur connecting directly from ur mac to ur xbox via a crossover cable? also what mac os ver?
jC!
Sep 12 2003, 10:54 PM
This is an easy fix....get a PC

Sorry
durnago
Sep 13 2003, 08:53 PM
I'm going with a straight ethernet cable from my mac laptop running os 9.2. I can network to other mac computers with filesharing, but I can't seem to get the configurations right to network direct to the xbox. Is it a tcp/ip problem? File sharing problem? Fetch ftp configuration problem?
lumbardh
Sep 13 2003, 09:02 PM
I'm gonna save you a lot of time here. Not many people have macs here, but luckily, I do.
1. Get the FTP program called Transmit
2. Got to Mac TCP, config manually and set your IP address and subnet mask ( I use 255.255.255) to what your xbox wants ( what you've put in the setting menue in evox.). I use 192.168.0.1
Now tell your xbox to use a static IP, again, I use 192.168.0.3
3. If you're going to connect directly, with no router you MUST use a crossover cable. This tricks you'r computer and xbox into thinking there's a router there. You can also directly connect two xbox's this way for some system link halo....
4. Connect the comp and xbox and open transmit, tell it to connect to 192.168.0.3, name xbox, password xbox.
5. Have fun. And if you get new skins to work on it please email me (lumbardh@msu.edu). I can send 'em over, but they don't show up for me for some reason.
If you're having problems, make sure that passive mode is off in trasmit and maybe restart your comp/xbox after they're connected and your tcp settings are changed.
Henry
durnago
Sep 13 2003, 09:10 PM
thanks, I'll let you know
black_light
Sep 13 2003, 09:12 PM
exactly, macs suck. my school has them and i constantly bitch at them to get real computers.
durnago
Sep 13 2003, 09:20 PM
I guess that shows that they are too easy even for the dummest people
lumbardh
Sep 13 2003, 09:28 PM
As much as people call out macs I'd like to see gome graphic designers chime in. Oh wait they're to busy producing the world's leading imaging and graphics for ALL the world! And don't tell me they have photoshop for windows too, that would only reveal your ignorance.
black_light, go back to home room, or is it middle school, and chime in when you grow up.
black_light
Sep 13 2003, 09:37 PM
mac os= shit
durnago
Sep 13 2003, 10:59 PM
I'm still getting errors saying cannot open data connection to 192.168.0.2 (my computer IP)
Intelligoth
Sep 14 2003, 12:33 AM
| QUOTE (lumbardh @ Sep 13 2003, 02:28 PM) |
As much as people call out macs I'd like to see gome graphic designers chime in. Oh wait they're to busy producing the world's leading imaging and graphics for ALL the world! And don't tell me they have photoshop for windows too, that would only reveal your ignorance.
black_light, go back to home room, or is it middle school, and chime in when you grow up. |
I prefer doing my amateur 3d rendering and grafx work on a PC for 2 reasons... the software is MUCH cheaper, and a PC mouse has more than 1 button.
FYI, some of the leading graphics producers in the world like Weta, SGI, ILM don't use Macs. They either use custom PCs running linux or dedicated unix based PCs like Silicon Graphics or Sun Sparcs.
Macs have their place though. I bought my grandmother an Imac when they first came out and she loves it!
Rodimus01
Sep 15 2003, 09:12 AM
Ok now I'm not sure how to solve your problem I will to be facing this issue later this week only I will have a router and I'm using Mac Os X. As for the childish argument over platforms that is not helping and will not help. No one will change their mind because someone says something sucks. That does sound pointless. As for the one button argument that should be mute because Macs support two button mice and they have sold them for over a decade just not Apple (big deal). There are many platform choices (win/mac/linux/etc..) out there and I for one like choice. Now back to the topic I'm not sure why you are using OS 9 instead of X but if you are and you do not have a router to assign ip information you may need to get one. I strongly recommend you use Mac OS X as well because there will be more up to date software and any software for 9 will be years old. Like I said I 'll be trying this later this week. I do know that I did connect to my friends xbox in the terminal app using ftp on his network. I think I might know about the uploading of the skins problem. My friend also showed me this. Make sure that the folder with the skin is only one folder deep any more and it will not appear.
Pobbe
Sep 15 2003, 09:20 AM
| QUOTE (black_light @ Sep 14 2003, 12:37 AM) |
| mac os= shit |
Yeah right, and windows is the best os ever
Get real
beeboy
Sep 15 2003, 02:37 PM
Make sure your Evox ini is set to yes for use static IP.
I had mine set at no, and even though I changed it on the settings screen it wouldn't connect untill I'd changed it and re installed Evox.
mrRobinson
Sep 15 2003, 05:10 PM
I'm not familiar with 9.x but do you have that built-in mac firewall on? on 10.x i think its in network config somewhere in system utilities.
Large Dopant white
Sep 15 2003, 06:01 PM
Mac OS X = more stable than XP (as stable as it is). I own both, and while I hate to say it, Mac OS X is as stable as a fucking rock- like most Unix dirivatives (which is what OS X is built from, BTW), the only way it crashes is because you fucked up, not the OS, or some driver, or some program. While I still enjoy PCs more than Macs (none of the Mac OS's are backwards compatable- Windows is), Macs are good, solid comuters.... the IMacs are shit simply because everything is integrated (read: non-upgradable).
EDIT: Lemme guess, that haters don't even OWN a Mac. Using the ones at school don't count- everyone and their brother knows that doesn't tell you anything great about the computer, as you can't burn it in, open it up to look at it, or install anything to test it out. Unless you think the only mesurment of quality is how many polys it can display in Q3 or how smoothly it can play that video of the kid jacking off to the bathroom.
mrRobinson
Sep 15 2003, 06:34 PM
my 17" powerbook has crashed just as much as my inspirion with winxp and i've had it for 2 years less time. So i wouldn't say its as stable as a rock. they have thier uses but it all depends on how much you know what you're doing and what you are loading or getting to work on your computer. Like the mac hung when i was getting ichat av to work, which is beta software as is. last time pc crashed was after a few runs with bootvis but it was modifying order of events of drivers so again, almost expected. Both recovered fine after a reboot.
Intelligoth
Sep 15 2003, 07:16 PM
Didn't the powerbooks have a bad rap for catching fire? I have an Inspiron 2650 at work and the f$cking thing crashes on me like 3 times a day. Running XP. Mind you I'm convinced it's because of Dell's SHIT QUALITY and not XP. My Desktop PC at home (also on XP) runs solid as a rock and OC'd to boot.
As a postscript, I play Diablo II online with a friend who runs a Mac on OSX. On semi-frequent occasions his connection terminates because... you guessed it... his Mac crashed, or GPF'ed or whatever the hell they do. The little bomb on the screen with the lame Quack sound or whatever... You know what, both OSes will crash on occasion, why? Because both of them are so complex that there is an inherent element of instability that you can't get rid of 100%. It's part and parcel of software/hardware interaction.
I'd say the most stable OS I've ever worked on is Apple DOS 3.3 on the old Apple //e (before Macintosh... you know, the computers that practically created the Home Computer industry).

Just so no one accuses me of APPLE bashing.
juliop
Sep 23 2003, 06:38 AM
I am having different problem with Xbox-iMac connection. I am using interarchy for OS X, I hve all my settings in place. X box recognizes Line (100/Full duplex), etc...
The problem is during the login/password section... I write xbox for each but it keeps coming back to ask for a password.
In the transfer transcript it states:
User xbox
331 Password required for xbox.
Pass *****
530 Login incorrect.
Anybody have any idea what is wrong?
Siglo
Sep 23 2003, 07:16 AM
Did you disable PASV in the ftp client? If not, do that and try again.
juliop
Sep 28 2003, 02:12 AM
I did disable PASV. I've used 2 different FTP programs and run across the same problem. It does not accept xbox as a password. On the Evox settings (from the Evox.ini and .xbe files burned on to my DVD disc), It says FTP: enabled; Password: xbox; and In Game Reset: No
I tried changing the password (it seems to allow me to type a new password... but the new password is not recognized when I try to FTP in. I appreciate any help.
Siglo
Sep 28 2003, 10:01 AM
Did you fill in the username as well? both the username and pw are xbox.
A@ron
Sep 28 2003, 01:37 PM
| QUOTE (black_light @ Sep 13 2003, 11:37 PM) |
| mac os= shit |
ok first, stop trolling. Two, I bet you cannot explain why tech geeks are flocking to the new OS (10.2 and soon to be 10.3)? Because its built on unix, stable as hell, and doesnt have the gigantic (I can drive a truck through em) security holes that require 5 patches a week. IT people like windows because the sh*t keeps em employeed. Case and point, my college runs four mac labs on 2 techs and two pc labs on 4 techs. Oh and the wintel techs are always almost too busy for lunch.
A@ron
mrRobinson
Sep 28 2003, 02:16 PM
| QUOTE (A@ron @ Sep 28 2003, 10:37 AM) |
| QUOTE (black_light @ Sep 13 2003, 11:37 PM) | | mac os= shit |
ok first, stop trolling. Two, I bet you cannot explain why tech geeks are flocking to the new OS (10.2 and soon to be 10.3)? Because its built on unix, stable as hell, and doesnt have the gigantic (I can drive a truck through em) security holes that require 5 patches a week. IT people like windows because the sh*t keeps em employeed. Case and point, my college runs four mac labs on 2 techs and two pc labs on 4 techs. Oh and the wintel techs are always almost too busy for lunch.
A@ron |
let's not use the word flocking. mac sales don't support claims of anyone flocking anywhere. Am I the only honest one who uses both systems? Both have their problems, both can crash... there are pros and cons to both systems. People bitch that windowsupdate can cause problems etc. but keep in mind windows runs on the vast majority of computers built. the mac os needs only to run on the mac. msft does an admirable job keeping those problems to a minimun considering the differences in hardware their OS runs on. While mac just needs thier stuff to run well on the hardware they approve and run. So I'd always expect near flawless software from .mac, now where's 10.2.8?? oh wait they pulled that update off their site cause it was causing problems all over. If macs had the market share windows had and vice versa i bet people would write virus' and exploits all over the place for it too. security by obscurity is not the best practice.
juliop
Sep 28 2003, 11:33 PM
Yep, I use xbox for user ID, which it accepts and xbox for password which it views as incorrect. Anyone seen or heard of this problem.
ZildjianKX
Oct 3 2003, 10:48 PM
Okay, first of all, I'm a tech Geek and I just bought a mac because of its beautiful UNIX integration. Windows is heading in a bad direction. Imagine this, new mac OSes are actually faster and more efficent with every new release... my god.
Anyways, this is the reason for my post.
The last build of EvoX (3921) broke the ability for Transmit to function properly. It keeps getting errors when accessing folders. Downgrade to 3752, and the problem is gone.
I know Team EvoX broke the ability for Debug BIOS to function properly (killed networkability) and they never fixed it, so I hope they're better about this. Transmit is the only FTP client that I've found to work in OS X.
Fawk3s
Oct 3 2003, 11:23 PM
lol, this argument is a bit ridiculus, however amusing!

I use both a mac and a pc, because both have their advantages.
ZildjianKX: CuteFTP Mac works very well for everything except evox 3921.
Durnago: I use both my mac and my pc to connect to my xbox. I first tried to use Fetch, for OS x which turned out to be useless. Then I went to www.globalscape.com and got myself a copy of CuteFTP Mac. I believe they make both an OS 9 and OS X version, after turning PASV off (and switching to MXM) it works like a charm. Remember that if you are connecting directly to your xbox from your mac you must have a crossover cable. (Not the regular one)
Hope this helps a bit!
Large Dopant white
Oct 4 2003, 12:30 AM
Evox 3921 is just broke in general. It doesn't work with ANY FTP program I've used- OS X, XP, or *nix wise. Team Evox is getting lazy...
ZildjianKX
Oct 4 2003, 02:50 AM
| QUOTE (Large Dopant white @ Oct 3 2003, 05:30 PM) |
| Evox 3921 is just broke in general. It doesn't work with ANY FTP program I've used- OS X, XP, or *nix wise. Team Evox is getting lazy... |
Okay, just making sure its not just me. That blows.
Fawk3s
Oct 4 2003, 03:50 AM
I don't know if I'd call them lazy .

. . . . . they do one hell of a job, and 3921 is a good dash with many improvements, (IGR to name one) It just appears that there is just a small bug with the FTP. Heres a thought . . . . make a boot disc with one of the older versions of evox, and whenever you need to FTP, boot to the disc . . . FTP, you have to restart before anything shows up in your menu's. Or switch Dashboards, Ive used both of these options and they both work.
Large Dopant white
Oct 4 2003, 04:07 AM
I say they're lazy because the FTP feature is (when you get down to the point) the only feature that makes Evox worth using anymore, as just about every other dash (minus the stock M$ one) does everything else better. Well, that and flashing, but Raincoat works for that just as well. Even in the 3921 dash, IGR is screwy, and I'd rather trust an X2 BIOS for IGR, as it doesn't freeze half as much as Evox's.
That's why they're lazy. It's a key feature, akin to Windows being unable to run 3rd-party applications. Would you tell someone to simply dual-boot another OS in order to play games or burn CDs properly? No, you wouldn't, and if the Evox dash cannot provide solid FTP, then it's lost the last reason I have to use it. It's just down to deciding to go for XBMP or MXM now...
ZildjianKX
Oct 4 2003, 05:22 AM
Yeah, FTP is the main reason I use EvoX. I already have to use a boot disc w/ EvoX on it to FTP when I use debug BIOS... sucks that I have to do the same now if I just want to FTP to it with normal BIOS... blah.
Fawk3s
Oct 4 2003, 02:22 PM
Fair enough, thats why I use MXM lol.
ZildjianKX
Oct 4 2003, 06:12 PM
Sorry... but what does MXM stand for... I feel lazy at the moment to find out myself
Fadl
Oct 31 2003, 12:32 PM
Is there any new ftp client for OSX wich works with 3921?
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