You're easily the number 1 emulator dev on Xbox, and the interfaces that come with all of your emulators are excellent, so.... I just wanted to know if you have any Amiga emulators in your future, or have considered it? UAEX is out there, though it's a tad messy and contains none of the features you inbuild as standard in all of your emu releases. Apart from that, a port of "Project Tempest" the first and probably only jaguar emulator would go down a treat. I'm psyched for a bit of jeff minter tempest 2000 action.
Anyway, good work, everyone appreciates the extra effort you go to in order to make your emulators great to use.

From the general FAQ at xport's homepage:

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Q: Are you going to port KIAME or port a SNES emulator or port "MY_FAVORITE_EMU"??? A: Firstly, when I think about doing a brand new project, I think about something that I would have at least a slight interest in playing. I don't like fighting games and I don't like FPS games. Second, I try to refrain from doing what has already been done. Why in the world would anyone ask me to port a SNES emulator? What else could you want from XSnes9X? Finally, it really makes absolutely no difference to me how many people "would love" to see a certain platform emulated. I ignore all requests for new projects so don't even bother asking. You're wasting your breath. That may sound brusque, but I would really like to make this notion stick.

When you get free stuff from people who are actually working for free, the best thing you can do (besides thanking the person) is to leave the person alone. (Read: STFU)

Unless that person is asking for bugs and stuff to update of course.

But otherwise, you can play lots of free stuff already, you really need more?

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Why in the world would anyone ask me to port a SNES emulator? What else could you want from XSnes9X?

An interface that doesn't suck ass? Really, that's what I want an Xport version of Snes9x for, because his interfaces are all comprehensive and easy to use.

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An interface that doesn't suck ass? Really, that's what I want an Xport version of Snes9x for, because his interfaces are all comprehensive and easy to use.

I'm a fan of Xport's interfaces, but I have absolutely no idea what's wrong with the one for SNES9X. It's pretty similar to EvoX, with submenus, and music.

Nor does it justify the effort required, if you really want moving sprites dancing abuot while selecting the ROM files, put the effort in yourself.

Honestly. Xport has done nothing but shock me with the kick-ass work he releases weekly, sometimes daily. It's not like we don't all have stuff we'd love to see happen, but it's all been mentioned, and either Xport or someone else will either port it, or not.

xSNES9x's interface is fine, if not as flashy as Xport's emus. What really irks me is the lack of graphics filters. We get either blur-o-vision or incorrectly sharpened. I'd like to see an Xport version of SNES9x just for the graphics filters, plain and simple.

I don't care about the sprites or how the background looks (as it is, I never use Xport's own skins for his emus), but rather the menu options available. I don't use xsnes9x anymore in favor of Snes9x X (which gives me the filter options I need for performance, but has the hardest to read menus ever). I think either emu needs work.

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What really irks me is the lack of graphics filters. We get either blur-o-vision or incorrectly sharpened.

That's what bothers me about the interface, there are hardly any options for improving the performance.

Lantus has been working on updating xsnes9x, which is already an amazing emulator and as xport said; what more can you need?! I don't know why you're bitching so much.
A better interface? I like the interface. It's simple, and to the point. All I want to do select my roms and play, which is exactly what I can do. And speaking of which, xsnes9x has practically 100% compatibility. I have yet to find a game that doesn't work. You want a graphic filter? Well that's just you bitching and being finiky. However, when lantus is satisfied with his next release of xsnes9x, it will include a graphic filter. Advancemame2x, I believe.

-Bender

QUOTE (yodanut @ Sep 18 2003, 08:45 PM)

xSNES9x's interface is fine, if not as flashy as Xport's emus. What really irks me is the lack of graphics filters. We get either blur-o-vision or incorrectly sharpened. I'd like to see an Xport version of SNES9x just for the graphics filters, plain and simple.

Bah. Lantus is working on it, the next version will have it, just wait.

Didn't mean to disrespect Lantus at all. I really like xSNES9x. I just wish it had more graphics filter options. If the next release does add AdvanceMAME2x, then all will be right with the SNES emu world...

QUOTE (Bender_Unit_1 @ Sep 18 2003, 04:06 PM)

Lantus has been working on updating xsnes9x, which is already an amazing emulator and as xport said; what more can you need?! I don't know why you're bitching so much. And speaking of which, xsnes9x has practically 100% compatibility. I have yet to find a game that doesn't work. You want a graphic filter? Well that's just you bitching and being finiky. However, when lantus is satisfied with his next release of xsnes9x, it will include a graphic filter. Advancemame2x, I believe.

Well, we've already pointed out what more we could need - graphics filters.

Why is it being bitchy and finicky (the correct spelling) when we want an emu to work?
100% compatibility? Yeah, that's great, too bad some games don't run at 100% speed.

I appreciate the effort he's putting into making an emulator, but it does need work in certain areas and that's why people would like it it Xport did a version of Snes9x.

EDIT - Another nice addition to the interface would be to allow users to change the rompath in the emu instead of having to ftp a new .ini whenever we move things around. Also, implementing the sticks and black and white buttons like Xport's emulators would be useful...

QUOTE (Keito-Kun @ Sep 18 2003, 09:07 PM)

QUOTE (yodanut @ Sep 18 2003, 08:45 PM) xSNES9x's interface is fine, if not as flashy as Xport's emus. What really irks me is the lack of graphics filters. We get either blur-o-vision or incorrectly sharpened. I'd like to see an Xport version of SNES9x just for the graphics filters, plain and simple. Bah. Lantus is working on it, the next version will have it, just wait.

been waiting all yr .. damn i have to put my own cry smilie .. we'll probably c a new version of fbaX b4 xsnes9x

Xport is right, XSNES9X is practically perfect and graphics filters are on the way.
It's systems like the Amiga that I almost wish there wasn't an emu for... I can just imagine all the config file options right there in the GUI. Since some games run better with more power to the CPU and others with more to the chipset (UAE fans will know what I mean ^_~) you could set the perfect value for each individual game. Plus all the standard Xport features that UAE-X will never even come close to. I'm sure the UAE-X author is very skilled, but let's face it, Xport he ain't.

Just look at WinSTon... the Amiga was the far superior machine but the ST gets such an awesome emu port. It makes me sad that we'll never have an Amiga emu that good.

yes a range of software/hardware filters will be in the next version

glitch - xSnes9x will be released before the next FBAx

Lantus, Think you could put a "search for your own codes" menu in there, the gamegenie codes I find stink.

Thanks

i've never been one to rush anyone, but it's been a long time. i don't care when it comes out, i just worry that after this release, there could be something else done and it'll take just as long to see (assuming you'd decide to do something about it). it's hard to put into words what i'm trying to say.

i like xport's release style. he'll throw something out, of course it's good, but it could be better in one spot or another. boom, another release with a fix or two. repeat. some people actually bitch that he releases an emulator too often. i can't believe people sometimes.

well i know that when xSnes9x is released, it'll be huge with changes and additions that'll shut us all TFU, but i like seeing the changes as they come along. i'm not saying to work as hard as mr. port does, you probably do. we just haven't seen the progress yet. i guess that's just me griping. everyone has their own style, and i wouldn't listen to any customer telling me how to cook..

it seems to me (correct me if i'm wrong here lantus) that lantus has been working with the pc snes9x team on improving the emulator. i feel that lantus has put input into the pc version and waited until a improved version for pc to be released so he could implement the new code to the xbox version.
now that the latest update for the pc has been released a few weeks ago think that lantus will be working on the next xbox version.
lantus could have given us a release to fix bugs like rtype3 being broken if he'd wanted to. but he probably felt it would make more sense to release a new version with major changes like. updated core, graphic and hardware filters, lightgun support and fixed rtype3 and whatever other games got broken in 1.04.
lantus - i love xsnes9x and the next version will probably be outstanding. i've packed my snes along with my super wild card backup unit away since getting xsnes9x running on my xbox.
cheers.

Pro-action replay codes also work in Xsnes9x, usualy they are better then game genie.

QUOTE (Sir Auros @ Sep 18 2003, 03:18 PM)

Why is it being bitchy and finicky (the correct spelling) when we want an emu to work? white buttons like Xport's emulators would be useful...

Uh, excuse me...work? SNES emulation is *very near* perfect, and for you to complain/bitch in *any* sense is absolutly, entirely, without a doubt, beyond a measure, fucking ridiculous.

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100% compatibility? Yeah, that's great, too bad some games don't run at 100% speed.

Then you say...

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Well, we've already pointed out what more we could need - graphics filters.

Now, after saying those two things in concession, anyone can see that you are nothing but a bitching, whinning, dumbass.

You DO realize that graphic filters SLOW emulation down, Yes? So what your initially after is against your main concern?

Just who in the fuck are you? You come here, whine about how something doesnt suit your needs, then make a fool of yourself by contradiction your own needs?!?!?!?

You need to go away.....seriously. Dont bother with emulation, dont bother with the xbox. Just take your stuff and never come back. It does the world a favor.

PS- A UI configuration does not mean a emulator configuration. You need to hook both togeather in order for them to work. So to cry about how XPorts 'UI' is more efficient, you must first realize that the UI is the easy part. The actual configurations themselves into the emulator is much much more important that the UI.

Be happy with what you have, and dont...EVER complain.

1 - Yes, SNES emulation IS very near perfect on the PC or Snes9x X, which is ported more or less perfectly (aside from ass-ugly menus), but xSnes9x is FAR from perfect as the half-dozen or so games that I played before deleting it skipped frames like crazy and weren't running at full-speed. These weren't any games that have any trouble on the PC, nor did I have any trouble with them on Snes9x X.

2 - Ah, but I am NOT a bitching, whining, dumbass for wanting the emulator to run at full-speed but also wanting graphics filters, because, guess what? You can fucking have both! Yes, believe it or not, SOME SNES emulators (on the Xbox) run at full-speed with graphics filters turned on. Ain't that some shit?

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You need to go away.....seriously. Dont bother with emulation, dont bother with the xbox. Just take your stuff and never come back. It does the world a favor.

LMAO Gonna ban me for having a different opinion than you?

Furthermore, if you don't offer criticism and point out what's wrong, how does a developer know what he needs to fix up in future versions?

I meant no disrespect to Lantus, but I also don't rely on his emulator because there's already an alternative that suites my needs. It's just that I'd still like an Xport emulator (if only to make my emus consistent), or for Lantus to fix the drawbacks in his.

I think its one thing to say what you would like to see in an emu, or what is "wrong" with it, but there is a right and wrong way of going about it. Coming right out saying that part of the emu "sucks ass" would be a wrong way. I dont doubt that lantus and xport like to hear what people want and what they dont like. Such criticism is needed to further development. However, the way you say it can change the meaning quite a bit. When you say that part of a program "sucks ass", you come off as bashing the software that someone put a ton of time into making.

There is a fine line between helpful criticism and bashing/flaming some ones work.

Xbox homebrew devs are not paid for their work, so no one should expect anything at all from them. Suggestions and comments should be worded in a manner that shows that you appreciate what work they have done so far. This is the only way that people will continue with their work.

P.S. Iriez is a meanie

QUOTE (heinrich @ Sep 19 2003, 02:39 AM)

I think its one thing to say what you would like to see in an emu, or what is "wrong" with it, but there is a right and wrong way of going about it. Coming right out saying that part of the emu "sucks ass" would be a wrong way. I dont doubt that lantus and xport like to hear what people want and what they dont like. Such criticism is needed to further development. However, the way you say it can change the meaning quite a bit. When you say that part of a program "sucks ass", you come off as bashing the software that someone put a ton of time into making.

Yeah, maybe I didn't get my point across in a nice way, but I really didn't mean it the way it sounded...it was kind of a joke-type-thing. Forget to use the smileys sometimes.

yes i do work with the Snes9x PC team. I am on their private cvs servers and have access to source code updates.

i contributed quite a few fixes to them in their 1.39-1.40 builds. The biggest of which was to get Starfox 2 beta working.

now Sir Auros, i dont know what crack your smoking but xSnes9x is almost a 1 -> 1 port of the win32 version. I fail to see how xSnes9x skips like crazy, its locked at full framerates.

Load up Seiken Densetsu 3 on Snes9x X and compare it to xSnes9x. oops, Snes9x X doesnt even support high res screen modes, while xSnes9x does perfectly. Snes9x X's sound is shot to pieces.

i could provide you with many more example of how Snes9x X is no where near as compatable as xSnes9x.

as far as XPORT doing his own snes emulator - he is more than welcome to, the source is available to do whatever he pleases with. He certainly doesnt need my permission to work on a snes emulator. Nor does anyone else. Thats what open source is all about.

please, continue with the bitching - its becoming an entertaining thread so far

QUOTE (lantus @ Sep 19 2003, 03:00 AM)

please, continue with the bitching - its becoming an entertaining thread so far

Ah, so it did get to you? :'(

I played Super Metroid and Super Mario World and Super Mario Allstars and on all three, whenever there was a projectile on screen, it often wouldn't show up and there was a definite delay between when I would press a button and when the emu would react. I'd hear Samus' arm cannon fire, but wouldn't see the projectile until it hit. What the hell's that? I'd also keep getting hit by enemies that would walk into me but weren't physically beside me on the screen.

Yeah, it's nice that your emu supports hi-res, but how about getting it running at full-speed?

I've yet to notice a problem with Snes9x X's sound.

I've never experienced such an issue. Believe me, if i did - i wouldnt have released xSnes9x. Super Metroid is my favorite rom ever and ive played it to completion on my emu without any such issues.

i dont know what else to say to you, except enjoy Snes9x X

QUOTE (lantus @ Sep 19 2003, 03:29 AM)

I've never experienced such an issue. Believe me, if i did - i wouldnt have released xSnes9x. Super Metroid is my favorite rom ever and ive played it to completion on my emu without any such issues. i dont know what else to say to you, except enjoy Snes9x X

It's my favorite too, and that's why I was so disappointed when it wasn't running correctly. I tried several versions of the rom too before giving up.

I didn't mean to make you think that your work isn't appreciated because of a few quibbles I have with your emu. People criticize, and yes, you are working for free, but at the same time, if you didn't have any criticism, how would you know what needs to be worked on and what doesn't? I mean, you get so much praise for you work I'd think you'd be able to take some criticism every now and then (and I haven't seen a lot of it on here.). I could've phrased my initial criticism more tactfully, but I really didn't think people would take it so harshly, so sorry about that bit.

i got nothin against hikaru-sama's work, but i don't think i've even heard of the crack you guys are smoking to compare Snes9x-x to xSnes9x. maybe you guys are using that beta5 disc that's been floating around. i've played a LOT of games with xSnes9x 1.04 and i dont have any of this slowdown or glitching on super metroid or anything else. i honestly think you guys are getting the emulators backwards. the problems i'm hearing are exactly the problems i had with Snes9x-x.

good thread, though. in its own way.

I've never experienced any trouble with Super Metroid, and
I've never heard of anyone having problems with it. And
xSnes9x is running at full speed all the time, I don't know
what the fuck's wrong with your Xbox. But even if you are
having problems, you shouldn't whine/bitch about it. And just
like Lantus-san says, even if I have respect for Hikaru, the
sound and compability in Snes9x X sucks. Do like Iriez told
you, don't bother with emulation, don't bother with the xbox.
Just go away.

QUOTE (Keito-Kun @ Sep 19 2003, 12:20 PM)

Do like Iriez told you, don't bother with emulation, don't bother with the xbox. Just go away.

So hostile...

I guess I'll go sell my Xbox now and delete all the emulators off my computer now that some nerdy little punks told me to...

Although I don't think I'll go away or sell my Xbox, or get rid of the emulators I've probably had on my computer since you were in elementary school.

I'm going to have to defend xSNES9x here as well: I've never had any compatibility or frame rate issues. Hell, I've never had an issue period. It's never crashed on me, stuttered, reset the machine, nothing. Aside from the graphics filter issue, it's as good as SNES9x on PC, and that's saying something! So keep up the good work Lantus; I'm looking forward to the next release.

QUOTE (yodanut @ Sep 19 2003, 07:42 PM)

I'm going to have to defend xSNES9x here as well: I've never had any compatibility or frame rate issues. Hell, I've never had an issue period. It's never crashed on me, stuttered, reset the machine, nothing. Aside from the graphics filter issue, it's as good as SNES9x on PC, and that's saying something! So keep up the good work Lantus; I'm looking forward to the next release.

Just like he said it emulates perfectly. Only thing no graphics filters which Lantus said he would include in the next version. So there should be no complaining on compatability or anthing else for that matter.

While normally I would be glad to see some constructive criticism of an emu on this forum considering all the brown-nosing that usually goes on. I'm afraid you're criticising an emu that is practically perfect. It runs every game I've ever tried (that's alot) at never less than full framerate. If yours is behaving differently then you would be far better off trying to discover why this is the case than just assuming that it's the emulator at fault.

I'm sure there are still a few ppl who would be happy to help you get it running properly

QUOTE (Sir Auros @ Sep 19 2003, 07:31 PM)

QUOTE (Keito-Kun @ Sep 19 2003, 12:20 PM) Do like Iriez told you, don't bother with emulation, don't bother with the xbox. Just go away. So hostile... I guess I'll go sell my Xbox now and delete all the emulators off my computer now that some nerdy little punks told me to... Although I don't think I'll go away or sell my Xbox, or get rid of the emulators I've probably had on my computer since you were in elementary school.

I don't think he was hostile my friend. I think you should just give up on the whole emu
scene though. You can try to candy coat what you said but it's pretty easy to read where
your coming from. I have NEVER had ANY of the problems you speak of and I have played
all 3 of those games quite a bit. You do know the emu works on an Xbox right? It sound's
to me like you might be running it on a PS2. That might be the problem. Ok, I solved your
frame rate problem. No need to thank me.
g

QUOTE (guile @ Sep 19 2003, 04:08 PM)

QUOTE (Sir Auros @ Sep 19 2003, 07:31 PM) QUOTE (Keito-Kun @ Sep 19 2003, 12:20 PM) Do like Iriez told you, don't bother with emulation, don't bother with the xbox. Just go away. So hostile... I guess I'll go sell my Xbox now and delete all the emulators off my computer now that some nerdy little punks told me to... Although I don't think I'll go away or sell my Xbox, or get rid of the emulators I've probably had on my computer since you were in elementary school. I don't think he was hostile my friend. I think you should just give up on the whole emu scene though. You can try to candy coat what you said but it's pretty easy to read where your coming from. I have NEVER had ANY of the problems you speak of and I have played all 3 of those games quite a bit. You do know the emu works on an Xbox right? It sound's to me like you might be running it on a PS2. That might be the problem. Ok, I solved your frame rate problem. No need to thank me. g

Another intelligent flame...I think I'll cry, sell my Xbox, delete the emus I've been using since before you knew what an emu was, etc. It's getting old, if you guys are going to flame me, then at least come up with something new instead of parroting Iriez...

Likklebaer, thanks for not acting like an ass to me after I blatantly apologized for my earlier criticisms of the emulator. What could possibly be the problem? I'm running it on an X2.1 Pro with the latest X2 BIOS. Didn't fuck with any of the default settings to make anything higher quality and it wasn't running at full-speed. I'm not having any overheating problems and the roms seem to be fine because they work correctly on my PC and on Snes9x X.

People seem so afraid to post any sort of opinion these days, afraid of the backlash, afraid of the author getting upset and ceasing development..

The guy posted his words wrong in his dislikes with the emulator and apologized for the incorrect wording of his thoughts.. You people really need to learn how to have a conversation about ideas, opionions, like and dislikes without bashing each other all to hell. He's right, if no one says a word, how is the author to know? (just pick better wording and be a bit more respectful next time:)) And everyone else lay off with the "it's free", "don't use it if you don't like it" etc. comments. Your right, but does it really need to be said in *every* thread?

But let's not forget our moderator who comes into the thread swinging throwing insults out left and right getting this discussion all heated up.. when it should be the same moderator that should be keeping things calm, leave the insults out of it. Not the first thread I've seen it happen in.

Another reason why these forums are goin to the shits.. isonews anyone?? Shouldn't they be moderating these threads instead of starting flame wars? Why is this allowed to pass?

I have never had a problem with super metroid or any other rom I have tried...
It amazes me that people bitch about something they get for no cost to themselves what so ever....

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I've been using since before you knew what an emu was

You know, some of us on this site are in are 30's..

QUOTE (tupelo @ Sep 19 2003, 05:16 PM)

You know, some of us on this site are in are 30's..

Yeah, and even more are teenagers.

Not all teenagers are complete retards, simply the vast majority. Some teenagers can post their thoughts with intelligent thought, use punctuation and even use correct grammar.

-Bender

QUOTE (Bender_Unit_1 @ Sep 19 2003, 05:38 PM)

Not all teenagers are complete retards, simply the vast majority. Some teenagers can post their thoughts with intelligent thought, use punctuation and even use correct grammar. -Bender

Not in the newbie forum...

That's true! I've never dared enter that realm; as of yet.

-Bender

QUOTE (Eldorado @ Sep 19 2003, 09:30 PM)

People seem so afraid to post any sort of opinion these days, afraid of the backlash, afraid of the author getting upset and ceasing development.. The guy posted his words wrong in his dislikes with the emulator and  apologized for the incorrect wording of his thoughts.. You people really need to learn how to have a conversation about ideas, opionions, like and dislikes without bashing each other all to hell.  He's right, if no one says a word, how is the author to know? (just pick better wording and be a bit more respectful next time:)) And everyone else lay off with the "it's free", "don't  use it if you don't like it" etc. comments.  Your right, but does it really need to be said in *every* thread? But let's not forget our moderator who comes into the thread swinging throwing insults out left and right getting this discussion all heated up.. when it should be the same moderator that should be keeping things calm, leave the insults out of it.  Not the first thread I've seen it happen in. Another reason why these forums are goin to the shits.. isonews anyone??  Shouldn't they be moderating these threads instead of starting flame wars? Why is this allowed to pass?

You're so right. Ppl here seem terrified of saying anything even remotely negative about an emulator, and when they do it's usually in a 'treading on eggshells' kind of way. And I agree that a mod should be the voice of reason in controversial threads, and should not be childishly flaming to try and alienate ppl of a differing opinion. The informative content of Iriez's post was completely destroyed by his hostility - as a result, all it did was start trouble.

Everyone is entitled to like or dislike something, and they should be able to discuss those dislikes freely as a matter of opinion - that's the whole point of a forum folks!! Whether they got it for free or not is irrelevant.

I'd much rather read and participate in a thread of conflicting opinions rather than one of these oh-so-tiresome '[author] is so great!!" threads.

Excellent though most of them are, there isn't an emu out there that couldn't be improved upon in some way. And I think it would be both interesting and productive to have these issues discussed rationally alongside the 'Thank you for this emu' threads.

So while I may disagree with Auros about XSNES9X. Kudos to him for voicing his opinion despite such adversity...

There are two kinds of people in the world, those who care and those who don't.

There are 10 kinds of people in the world, those that understand binary and those who don't

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You're so right. Ppl here seem terrified of saying anything even remotely negative about an emulator, and when they do it's usually in a 'treading on eggshells' kind of way. And I agree that a mod should be the voice of reason in controversial threads, and should not be childishly flaming to try and alienate ppl of a differing opinion. The informative content of Iriez's post was completely destroyed by his hostility - as a result, all it did was start trouble. Everyone is entitled to like or dislike something, and they should be able to discuss those dislikes freely as a matter of opinion - that's the whole point of a forum folks!! Whether they got it for free or not is irrelevant. I'd much rather read and participate in a thread of conflicting opinions rather than one of these oh-so-tiresome '[author] is so great!!" threads. Excellent though most of them are, there isn't an emu out there that couldn't be improved upon in some way. And I think it would be both interesting and productive to have these issues discussed rationally alongside the 'Thank you for this emu' threads. So while I may disagree with Auros about XSNES9X. Kudos to him for voicing his opinion despite such adversity...

yeah!, preach it sister!! . seriously though, good post. some people need to take things on these boards less serious. oh well.

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You're so right. Ppl here seem terrified of saying anything even remotely negative about an emulator

Not in my experiences here, many people here seem very inclined to whine, are very happy to do so, and always assume there's some fault in the code of an emulator before even seriously trying to solve their problem. They're also incapable of using a search button, reading readmes and faqs, and it's lucky sometimes that they don't ram grilled cheese in their dvd tray when trying to install emulators. I am not trying to pick on one person in particular.

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Everyone is entitled to like or dislike something, and they should be able to discuss those dislikes freely as a matter of opinion

Your opinion is not what is going to get you flamed here, unless it's really retarded in which case you're really asking for it anyway

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I'd much rather read and participate in a thread of conflicting opinions rather than one of these oh-so-tiresome '[author] is so great!!" threads.

Fine, that's what the forums are for. However, may I suggest the following guidelines -

1. Show respect when you talk about something you don't like, or when you're making a suggestion. Do so constructively. I've got to believe that many of the emu authors here read what you write, and may take offense that you don't like something that they put together or have spent a lot of hours on. Imagine if it was your project that people disliked. How would you feel? You don't have to walk on eggshells. You should use common sense. If people take offense at what you've written, so be it, at least you tried not to offend.

2. If you're going to take the time to critique an emulator, take the time to also tell the authors what you like about the emus. Saying 'thank you' does not mean you're kissing anyone's ass. You're just being polite, and god knows the world could use more of that. To many times all I see after MAMEoX releases is 'thing A is broken' or 'god I hate this' or 'where's lightgun support' or 'when do I get VMM'? That's the equivalent of complaining about a christmas present right in front of whomever gave it to you right after you unwrap it.

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Excellent though most of them are, there isn't an emu out there that couldn't be improved upon in some way. And I think it would be both interesting and productive to have these issues discussed rationally alongside the 'Thank you for this emu' threads.

No one can debate this. However, some of the requests people have been making of some of these authors are borderline insane. I'm still waiting for the 'PLZ DO EMU THAT MIMICS 1980 PACMAN WRISTWATCH" thread to start, I'm sure it's not far away. Other requests are made repeatedly and often to the ears of the developers, and I can't imagine that they sound anything but the screams of small children. It's hard not to get annoyed at that, I'm sure most of you know what that's like if you're stuck next to one on an airplane. The christmas present analogy applies here too. If you bought your sister/brother a sweater for christmas and immediately after receiving it, they said, you know, this is nice, but I would rather this had been red/blue/yellow/money instead/a puppy/a brand new car, it's hard not to find that a bit disappointing.

Now regarding Iriez, do you guys have any idea what an immense pain in the ass it is to moderate a forum? I imagine he probably reads through pretty much every single post. I think if I had to do that, I would probably be pretty cranky too. Some of the posts are pretty idiotic. I can't sit through 10 minutes of television I don't like. He's contributed a lot to the scene and has not received a lot of respect in return. Ok, that's fair, you don't like the way he handled something, or you don't like what he's said. Fine. You don't have to. You can rant about him all you want, but he's a decent mod and without him you wouldn't have a lot to talk about (unless you had source code, visual studio 2003, the xdk, and the knowledge to produce a working binary). People rip on him all the time. Give the guy a break, and try to appreciate what he's volunteering his time to do.

whatever. i don't praise anyone, these guys even get their nose hairs praised by more than enough people, but it's annoying to hear someone bitch when it's obvious that it's the user with the problem, not the emulator. it's one thing to report bugs, but you should've said that it doesn't work for you for some reason instead of assuming that lantus sent some glitched up piece of shit floating around. i don't know or even care anymore why xSnes9x doesn't work for you when it does for damn near everyone else. sorry your super metroid projectiles flicker, or whatever. they look beautiful over here.

voicing opinions is why we're here, but if 99% of the readers go "WTF are you smoking?" this is what we get. everyone else voicing their opinions.

still, good reading.

QUOTE (Likklebaer @ Sep 19 2003, 06:17 PM)

So while I may disagree with Auros about XSNES9X. Kudos to him for voicing his opinion despite such adversity...

...but I still don't know what I should do to get it to work?

QUOTE (Sir Auros @ Sep 20 2003, 02:53 AM)

...but I still don't know what I should do to get it to work?

Maybe it's a PAL/NTSC issue - check if the Force PAL/NTSC options are enabled?

Do any of your roms at all run at full speed?

Are you sure the settings you have are the default ones?

Have you noticed the problem in any other emus?

Have you tried altering the settings to be as light on resources as possible (e.g. mono sound etc) to see if there's any improvment?

Which settings if enabled make the problem worse?

Thanks for the kind words noodle, that pretty much summed it up.

To be quiet honest i dont remember half of that post i made last night (or was it the night before?) ... i was pretty hammered. As Elodorado pointed out, as a moderator i shouldnt heat things up, instead i should calm them down.

With that in mind, you must then think of the original context the 'critisism' was put in.

Bash bash bash.

I have no problem saying it outright anger's me when someone like lantus has put so so so very much time into xSnes9x (and time into the original PC version), making it outright damn near perfect, and then to see such petty complaints which are obviously user error and oddball preference.

Should I, as a moderator, apologize? Hell no.

Im entitled to my opinion as anyone else is. Though my post was heated and direct, it was a valid point breed through emotion. I really do care about lantus and his work, and seeing unconstructive bashing of it flips my lid.

But here, let me start all over, and put it in a more constructive general way:

Sir Auros: While you are entilted to your opinion, your unconstrutive critisism is uncalled for, and a more mature appropriate attempt at getting your point across could have been accomplished with kinder words. No, xSnes9x does not have any of those issues, yes, the issues are produced on your xbox and i believe you, but you should exhaust the possibilities of user error before complaining that a near perfect emulator doesnt work for you. You say you have tried multiple different roms...are you roms verified with GoodSNES to be known good dumps? Have you tried both PAL and NTSC known good roms before assuming it was the emulator? So you dont like the user interface? Code your own. xSnes9x is open source, and anyone can pick it up.

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