i have tried using HDLoader and XBCopy to back this game up to my xbox harddrive, it starts to load but then goes back to my Evolution X dashboard, can someone please tell me what i am doing wrong. ive asked around with no luck. thanks in advance.

if you had read the sticky's and other tutorials you would have known those tools are outdated and pretty much useless so to speak.
ESPECIALLY for new games

You need to do a search for a newer bios for your modchip and update it. They have implemented new media checks that prevent older bios from being able to play the new releases. Had the same problem with Defiance, and after updating it worked. Still having problems with other games though.....so some of the newer ones may need an even newer bios yet again....and i don't know if there is one yet.

so if theses apps are useless, what to do know....Can i just put the dvd game in my dvd player save on computer then ftp into the hddloader file,,Is it that simple I doubt that..please tell me it is....