Well, Team X-ecuter released a photo of its X2 Lite connected to the xbox, but... how the hell will this switches stay outside the console? :/, I can´t see the point. Will the chip stay outside?, Is there any back hole to get the wires(of the conector) out of the console?.


Thanks.
HexDump.

pls I need to know it...

HexDump.

you cant see the point ?

the point being you dont have to open up your console again ?

what kind of dumb post is this ?

I believe HexDump's English is lacking.. I think he means how, not why.

More speculation: When he says " I can´t see the point," I think he means the point where the switches are connected to? I dunno... He'll be back to explain what he means.

But the main question for him is whether or not there are indeed external switches on the X-2 lite. I was under the impression that only the Pro had this, but I'm not sure eather.

QUOTE (duff @ Nov 21 2002, 11:36 AM)

But the main question for him is whether or not there are indeed external switches on the X-2 lite. I was under the impression that only the Pro had this, but I'm not sure eather.

Yes, their website isn't very clear and is somewhat contridictory in several places.

It looks like the Lite has switches, but they're mounted to the board, so you still have to open up your Xbox to switch 'em. They say the Pro will feature external switches. But it's a little unclear whether the Lite has an external programming/flashing connection... in one place on their website, it says it does, but in another place is suggests that only the Pro will.

If anyone could offer insight, it'd be appreciated.

Also... when they say "external switches"... are we going to have to cut mounting holes in the cabinet? All the tuts for external switches seem to talk about enlarging a vent slot or bending the metal surround inside the box to be able to mount switches or feed wires. And the parallel connect? Seems like that could be pretty large to fish through the case.

If you look at the pic of the X2 lite mod on the news page at gotmod.com you can see a jumper on the on/off setting. So if you hook a swith to that jumper and mount it externally, that should power on and off the mod.

sorry perhaps I didn´t explain myself clear, I wanted to mean that I don´t understand how they are achiving this "external switches", because everything seems that will be inside the console.


HexDump.

I'm really curious how they switches will be mounted outside as well, and hopefully one of those switches that are external will disable the mod... hmmm...

This is my thinking on the jumpers on the lite. There are two jumpers, one is for bios selection one it to disable. You take the jumper off or put it on to swich between bios or to enable/diable the mod.
I dont think the X2 lite will have external swiches just the jumpers

QUOTE (HexDump @ Nov 21 2002, 01:48 PM)

sorry perhaps I didn´t explain myself clear, I wanted to mean that I don´t understand how they are achiving this "external switches", because everything seems that will be inside the console.

Ummmm... you seem to be posting without even reading the responses.

As Halfsober stated 20 minutes before your post, "if you hook a switch to that jumper and mount it externally, that should power on and off the mod". YOU would need to hook the switch to the jumpers, and mount the switch externally yourself, sounds like. Doesn't sound like something the X2 Lite will be "achiving" (sic).

The Pro seems to suggest they'll include the switches (maybe with a nice pin connector or something)... but I'm now figuring that we'll still be left to our own devices as to how we want to actually mount the switches and where.

QUOTE (Halfsober @ Nov 21 2002, 08:26 PM)

If you look at the pic of the X2 lite mod on the news page at gotmod.com you can see a jumper on the on/off setting. So if you hook a swith to that jumper and mount it externally, that should power on and off the mod.

CORRECT !

ten points to that man

QUOTE (steinola @ Nov 22 2002, 12:54 AM)

QUOTE (HexDump @ Nov 21 2002, 01:48 PM) sorry perhaps I didn´t explain myself clear, I wanted to mean that I don´t understand how they are achiving this "external switches", because everything seems that will be inside the console. Ummmm... you seem to be posting without even reading the responses. As Halfsober stated 20 minutes before your post, "if you hook a switch to that jumper and mount it externally, that should power on and off the mod". YOU would need to hook the switch to the jumpers, and mount the switch externally yourself, sounds like. Doesn't sound like something the X2 Lite will be "achiving" (sic). The Pro seems to suggest they'll include the switches (maybe with a nice pin connector or something)... but I'm now figuring that we'll still be left to our own devices as to how we want to actually mount the switches and where.

PRO switches all included - its a special external PCB with 4 way DIP witch - i was shown a picture of a beta version yesterday

QUOTE (biosboy @ Nov 21 2002, 05:57 PM)

QUOTE (steinola @ Nov 22 2002, 12:54 AM) QUOTE (HexDump @ Nov 21 2002, 01:48 PM) sorry perhaps I didn´t explain myself clear, I wanted to mean that I don´t understand how they are achiving this "external switches", because everything seems that will be inside the console. Ummmm... you seem to be posting without even reading the responses. As Halfsober stated 20 minutes before your post, "if you hook a switch to that jumper and mount it externally, that should power on and off the mod". YOU would need to hook the switch to the jumpers, and mount the switch externally yourself, sounds like. Doesn't sound like something the X2 Lite will be "achiving" (sic). The Pro seems to suggest they'll include the switches (maybe with a nice pin connector or something)... but I'm now figuring that we'll still be left to our own devices as to how we want to actually mount the switches and where. PRO switches all included - its a special external PCB with 4 way DIP witch - i was shown a picture of a beta version yesterday

And the mounting? Where do it go? How do it attach?

This is the only thing making me upgrade to the PRO.. oh that and the fact that it is 1mb.

If it has external switches I will definately be buying.


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Regards,
- atari

QUOTE (atari @ Nov 22 2002, 02:18 AM)

This is the only thing making me upgrade to the PRO.. oh that and the fact that it is 1mb. If it has external switches I will definately be buying. Anyone interested in combining a bulk order to Australia? Email me here: therealcommanderkeen@hotmail.com Regards, - atari

the LITE also has external and is 1MB

Where can you find the beta pic with the switches? I didn't see it on their website.

how do u put external switch u ask? i used super glue on my switch for my enigmah.. i'll do the same when i get executer 2 lite

QUOTE (The Legendary Rob @ Nov 22 2002, 12:02 PM)

how do u put external switch u ask? i used super glue on my switch for my enigmah.. i'll do the same when i get executer 2 lite

innovation !

i love it

someone who THINKS for themselves - ive been starved of common sense while being on here - thank you sir for that swift injection

QUOTE (biosboy @ Nov 21 2002, 07:51 PM)

the LITE also has external and is 1MB

Grrrrrr... I thought we already established that the Lite only has jumpers, and not external switches?!? :blink:


And people ask why noobs keep asking the same questions over and over... it's cuz every response and any of these forums seems to contridict the 5 before it. So what's a person to do: a) blindly believe the 5 previous responses, b) blindly trust the latest response(s), or c) ask the question again for clarification?

Seems c) is the only intelligent choice... but then they get flamed for supposedly not reading the previous threads.

Anyone else see the catch-22 here?

It's true that the X2 lite has a jumper and no external switch, but that should not prevent you from adding your own switch. All a jumper does is close a connection, or open it if the jumper is not installed. So by adding your own switch (with wires) to the on/off jumper and mounting it externally, you could then toggle the open/close, and thus on or off, connection without ever opening your box.

I should also add that it is possible that team x-ecuter may decide to release the mod with a switch. I haven't seen anything saying they wonldn't, but only one pic where there was no switch attached. If they do not include a switch I am sure that someone will do a tutorial on adding your own.

And yes, because your xbox does not have a spot already designed where you can install a switch, you will most likely have to custom drill, or cut, your case depending on the switch used.

I'm also concerned if the X2 Pro can hold two 512 k BIOS files... their site says 4 x 256, and 1 x 512, 1 x 1024.... and that has been consistant.... 1 x 512 BIOS would suck.

I got an idea...go to the X-ecuter web site. Bet that gives you all the answers. Just a WILD guess there.

QUOTE (Dark Schneider @ Nov 22 2002, 08:50 PM)

I got an idea...go to the X-ecuter web site. Bet that gives you all the answers. Just a WILD guess there.

Was that in response to my 512 k BIOS question?

QUOTE

I got an idea...go to the X-ecuter web site. Bet that gives you all the answers. Just a WILD guess there

i was also wondering about the 512k bois question and no it doesnt say on there web site maybe if you had read it all you would know that...

QUOTE (Dark Schneider @ Nov 22 2002, 08:50 PM)

I got an idea...go to the X-ecuter web site. Bet that gives you all the answers. Just a WILD guess there.

Actually... most of the confusion is coming from their website.

The design of the chip is not finished yet (release date 12/09/02), I think we should wait more informations from team executer! I hope there will be a trick to turn-off the modchip without having to open the box (switch or long push on the xbox switch)....

ive beta tested a pro for a couple of weeks

its coded to have either 4 x 256k different switchable flashes

you cannot switch between 2 x 512 - it was a choice of one or the other

so like xecuter post on their site

you can run at anyone time....

4 x 256
1 x 512 (2x mirrored)
1 x 1MB

It IS possible to force the kernel to read a 512k BIOS if you select the 3rd bank switch (Banks 1&2 is 2 x 256 - Banks 3& 4 is second 512k - 2 x 256) - but this would mean a modified kernel - which is was necessary (highly unlikely) then you could have 2 x 512k support (like it is on the lite)

explained.....

When the first 'write' pulse is detected, the LPC host switches from 2x256K to 1x512K mode. In theory, if you insert an xcode instruction to write to anywhere in the flash, you would be in 512K mode & you can have your 512K bios working within banks 3 & 4

Again this isnt how the mod is designed - 4 x 256 for those that like to use all sorts of different 256k BIOS - 512k for those that dev.

Hopefully ive explained this better than my previous drunken post

QUOTE (biosboy @ Nov 25 2002, 10:31 PM)

the sites very clear like this guy keeps saying it says PRO = 4x256 and 1x512 and 1 x 1MB but i dont understand does that mean it is 1 x 512 and 2 x 512 is this the kind of confusion you are talking about ? So if I were to come on here and say - man you are stupid doesnt it say 1 x 512 ? you get my point ?

No. you are really confusing me man!

QUOTE (biosboy @ Nov 25 2002, 03:31 PM)

is this the kind of confusion you are talking about ?

No... it's not.

Look under No Removal When Flashing... seems to suggest this is for both the Lite and Pro.
Yet under PRO & LITE Versions, it states that only the Pro has "external PC programming"

Look under Disable Switch, it says "An external switch (supplied)..."
Yet the pictures seem to suggest that the LITE only has jumpers, and no switch is supplied.

Also, their site never says PRO = 4x256 and 1x512 and 1 x 1MB... it says "With Xecuter2 PRO you can switch between 4 x different 256k BIOS's... LITE you can switch between 2 x different 256k BIOS's... you also have the ability to use 512k DEBUG BIOS's". BIOS's, plural, you idgit... that means "more than one".

So... yeah... there's some confusion to clear up... and, no, their website doesn't do it for us/me. It's not surprising, since the design is a bit in flux, and the website content may have been written a while ago. Sooner or later, everything will probably be updated accurately and everything will be clear. But it's not right now.


It sure would be nice if you tried to read a little bit before you flame people for legitimate questions, biosboy. Or, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had a direct communication with Team Xecuter... unlike the rest of us. If you know all this stuff, why are you even here??

Seems like, if you can rig it to run 4x256k BIOSes, that rigging for 2x512k BIOSes should be a snap.

Jumper one address line (a18) between the MB and flash (working) and the other (a19) to ground or Vcc, depending on which BIOS you want to run.

The 4x256 switch probably allows you to switch between Gnd and Vcc for a18 and a19. Best soltuion is a three way switch.... "Normal", Gnd or Vcc, for both address lines, giving you the most flexibility.

QUOTE (steinola @ Nov 26 2002, 11:38 AM)

So... yeah... there's some confusion to clear up... and, no, their website doesn't do it for us/me.

Actually... their website really doesn't clear it up now.


"Our host has decided that we use too much bandwidth on his particular server and has forced us to look elsewhere"

QUOTE (steinola @ Nov 26 2002, 07:32 PM)

QUOTE (steinola @ Nov 26 2002, 11:38 AM) So... yeah... there's some confusion to clear up... and, no, their website doesn't do it for us/me. Actually... their website really doesn't clear it up now. "Our host has decided that we use too much bandwidth on his particular server and has forced us to look elsewhere"

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...t=15#entry88202

QUOTE (biosboy @ Nov 26 2002, 03:33 PM)

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?act...t=15#entry88202

A) That's not xecuter's website, now is it?

and

B) that's your take on it all. We already know your take. What we're looking for are facts. But I guess in your own little world, your opinion is somehow interpreted in your mind as fact, sooo...

well he does reckon he beta tested it