IMPORANT: Since this information has been posted a lot has been revised. Reading this will tell you nothing. You are better off browsing towards the middle of the thread. I am leaving this info intact for reference but alot of it has been changed through time.
This is a re-post of my discoveries as a seperate topic.

Ok, ive looked through a lot and here's how its working.

NEW: W Update: The W code changes depending on your "flow" rate half duplex or full duplex. (Special thanks to Cutriss)

X. First of all, the first four numbers of x should always be zeros. They SHOULD always but I haven't seen one that isn't. If it isn't that is most likely not a problem

Y. 00A8 seems to be common among banned and not banned boxes. Now here is where the problem is. Apparently 6860 indicates an LPC mod that is enabled or a non switched non-LPC mod enabled. 6820 means that the system had once had a modchip in it but at the moment is not running. Other wise it should be something like 4840 or 4820.
NEW INFO:
00C2 In your second Y code is almost definitely an unconformity in Eeprom info. This is caused by either editing the eeprom so that parts do not match, or other types of unmatching data (can be caused by replacing parts in the xbox or locking and unlock attempting with different things.) New Info! (Not Confirmed)

great job fuzzy...i look forward to getting started with live when i get it tommorrow. i'll let you know the results of the connection test.

ok mr fuzzy riddle me this then!

i edited my eeprom for the fuck of it and put in different values in for serial, online key, mac address & hd key and my X Y & Z are

X: 0000-F001
Y: 00C2-01E4
Z: AFFF-0018

the numbers are checksums brought up from the eeprom somehow but i don't know yet.

very nice man man...

ill try and fudge with numbers this weekend

never been modded xbox...

all settings automatic...

X: 0000 - F001
Y: 00A8 - 4860
Z: 8015 - 1917

dns manually entered...

X: 0000 - F009
Y: 00A8 - 4860
Z: 8015 - 1917

ip and dns manually entered...

X: 0000 - 000D
Y: 00A8 - 4800
Z: 0000 - 0000

mess with the ip address so it can't find ip...

X: 8001 - 0605
Y: 0000 - 0000
Z: 0000 - 0000

mess with dns server so it can't find it (ip manually entered)...

X: 0000 - 000D
Y: 008C - 0000
Z: 0000 - 274C

mess with dns server so it can't find it (ip automaticly found)...

X: 0000 - F009
Y: 008C - 0060
Z: 0000 - 274C

everything automatic, but block necessary ports so live can't be found on router...

X: 0000 - F001
Y: 0088 - 1C60
Z: 8015 - 1917



there ya go.. use this info as you will

Nice job guys. It seems like there is some hope here but not much interest from the hardcore hackers?

QUOTE (pride @ Nov 27 2002, 04:43 AM)

ok mr fuzzy riddle me this then! i edited my eeprom for the fuck of it and put in different values in for serial, online key, mac address & hd key and my X Y & Z are X: 0000-F001 Y: 00C2-01E4 Z: AFFF-0018 the numbers are checksums brought up from the eeprom somehow but i don't know yet.

C2 and AFFF mean major difficulty within the system processor. Thats about all i know about those codes right now. Thanks for all your help, im looking into this more.

By the way, some xboxes will have differnces in the letters, it depends on the date the box was bought, where it was bought, and how long it has been modded (while being banned)

Hmmm....modded xbox. Matrix that has been in mode 1 since i installed live this morning. Which, btw, is running fine.

0000-F001
00A8-4860
8015-1917

This is the same thing as emoney's original xbox. Therefore 8015 does not equal ban? Cause due to 4860, it should mean that my box is unmodded? hmmm....somethings not right.

no i said 4860 means mod has not been detected/banned.

*Bump*

*Bump* Just an update, This is for all newbs

IF YOUR SECOND Y CODE BEGINS WITH A 6 YOU ARE BANNED. SO FAR NOONE TO BE BANNED HAS EVER HAD ANYTHING OTHERWISE. THIS IS THE EASIEST WAY TO TELL.

I would appreciate if some more people (banned and not) posted their codes.

QUOTE (Icculus @ Nov 28 2002, 04:16 AM)

Hmmm....modded xbox. Matrix that has been in mode 1 since i installed live this morning. Which, btw, is running fine. 0000-F001 00A8-4860 8015-1917 This is the same thing as emoney's original xbox. Therefore 8015 does not equal ban? Cause due to 4860, it should mean that my box is unmodded? hmmm....somethings not right.

indeed i will have to work on 8015 thanks.

QUOTE (emoney @ Nov 27 2002, 06:15 AM)

never been modded xbox... all settings automatic... X: 0000 - F001 Y: 00A8 - 4860 Z: 8015 - 1917 dns manually entered... X: 0000 - F009 Y: 00A8 - 4860 Z: 8015 - 1917 ip and dns manually entered... X: 0000 - 000D Y: 00A8 - 4800 Z: 0000 - 0000 mess with the ip address so it can't find ip... X: 8001 - 0605 Y: 0000 - 0000 Z: 0000 - 0000 mess with dns server so it can't find it (ip manually entered)... X: 0000 - 000D Y: 008C - 0000 Z: 0000 - 274C mess with dns server so it can't find it (ip automaticly found)... X: 0000 - F009 Y: 008C - 0060 Z: 0000 - 274C everything automatic, but block necessary ports so live can't be found on router... X: 0000 - F001 Y: 0088 - 1C60 Z: 8015 - 1917 there ya go.. use this info as you will

WHOA! thanks dude ill check this sh!t out. (I NEED MORE POSTS LIKE THIS PEOPLE)

For what it's worth,
Enigmah'ed box, banned, manual IP settings:

X: 0000 - 000D
Y: 00A8 - 6800
Z: 8015 - 190D

with auto IP settings:

X: 0000 - F009
Y: 00A8 - 6820
Z: 8015 - 190D

BTW - I was fine during the beta2 period with a mod enabled - it wasn't till retail that I got banned , even though by then I had installed an off-switch. Is this generally the story, or weren't some people banned during beta? I'm wondering why I wasn't. Sorry if I've missed this buried in the threads.

for what it's worth...


Messed up Serial, MAC, Online Key and HDD Key...
---------------------------------------------
Internet Connection Online - All Auto

X: 0000 - F001
Y: 00C2 - 01C4
Z: AFFF - 0018

Router cable unplugged (offline) - All Auto

X: 0000 - F001
Y: 00C3 - 0040
Z: 0000 - 274C

Internet Connection Online, xbox and kerberos Ports Blocked (dns resolves, but nothing else)

X: 0000 - F001
Y: 00C2 - 03C0
Z: 0000 - 0000


Valid Serial, MAC, Online Key, Only Messed up HDD Key...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Internet Connection Online - All Auto

X: 0000 - F001
Y: 00C2 - 01C4
Z: AFFF - 0018

Enigma'd xbox before i installed startup disc, since before installing live enigma has always been out of the xbox. Works on Live fine (i traded my original banned xbox with a friend who wasn't gonna buy live).

so no mod chip in, there used to be one (enigmah), and xbox live works:

X:0000-F001
y:00A8-4860
Z:8015-1917

although i have 8015 on z, i'm not banned because it works (hopefully it doesn't mean they are waiting to ban me)

I knew there was something boxside, this smells like real progress, way to go fuzzy

QUOTE (xdrei @ Dec 4 2002, 09:11 PM)

Enigma'd xbox before i installed startup disc, since before installing live enigma has always been out of the xbox. Works on Live fine (i traded my original banned xbox with a friend who wasn't gonna buy live). so no mod chip in, there used to be one (enigmah), and xbox live works: X:0000-F001 y:00A8-4860 Z:8015-1917 although i have 8015 on z, i'm not banned because it works (hopefully it doesn't mean they are waiting to ban me)

im working on 8015, right now it seems to have to do with (dum dum dum) the first 16 bytes of your eeprom!!!! (aka hdkey) thanks to all you (especially undead for F*king everything up for me hehe) ill get cracking and keep posting!!!! (for once i feel like im really helping something. I could be the modders xyz decoder! MS has one, why cant we! lol )

Here are my xyz numbers on a multibios tsop flash and a switch(its been flashed a few times with different bios). I'm using 4034 standard bios for live and evox2.5 ybox for mod fun. All setting are the auto defaults.
I've been running live for a week now with no problems(keeping my fingers crossed) I only use it under the 4034 bios for online play with retail games.
X: 0000-F001
Y: 00A8-4860
Z: 8015-1919

hey fuzzy..

its actaully the first 48 bytes

the first 16 bytes is only a checksum of the next 32 bytes that containts the region, confounder and hdd key (all rc4 encrypted of course)

so strictly speaking the only way to change the first 16 bytes is to change anyone of the following 32 bytes and recalculate the first 16 byte checksum

haha sorry as for jammin j, jammin, i need some more info, ive never seen 1919 before, could you play around with your ip setiings and stuff and post the result? it would be deeply appreciated. Update a good code might (I SAID MIGHT) look like this.

X:0000-f001 or f021 or etc. f0something
Y:00A8-4860 or 4820 or any other 4 (if this starts with a 6 ex 00A8-6860 your banned, no questions, dont bother)
Z:8015(still not sure completely of meaning)-1917,190D(which is pretty bad),190C(which is pretty bad) and im goign to look into 1919.


Thanks again for all your help. ill keep working. (special thanks to undead because im oblivious to all the indepth stuff and he translates for me )

by the way, next time a mod drops by. Im just wondering why this post and that other post (how to tell if your banned) have not bee temporarily stickied. There are a lot of people new to this problem asking am i banned? an thats a quick easy way to know. As for this post i would just like it temporarily stickied because i need as many codes as i can get and i dont wanna keep bumping it cuz thats lame. thanks

*Bump*

time to get the peoples help again, people ( ) i need your NONWORKING codes (i didnt say banned i mean for example cant find ip cant find dns etc.) and tell me what you did. I especially need people who have a non compatible internet and what the numbers are. Any codes at all will be appreciated (and remember to be as detailed as possible with what you tell me. Your ip settings, your router, your internet service, your connectivity, alot of lag, in what games, Everything you can tell me)

Fuzzy,

you should post a little tuturial on how to get this XYZ info. i would love to help. Unfortunitly, i am a noob when it comes to this, and have no clue.

How To Get Your XYZ Info.

ATTENTION, THIS TUTORIAL ASSUMES YOU HAVE ALREADY FULLY INSTALLED XBOX LIVE!

1.Turn off your modchip and go to the Xbox Dashboard.
2.Click on the Xbox Live Tab.
3.Go to Network Connections.
4.Wait for the Green Lights (or red X'es depending on your setup) to load.
5.Once they load highlight the help button.
6.Over the help button press the Y button.
7.An X code a Y code and a Z code will come up along with more packet data including upload and download speed.
8.Take note of these Numbers.
9.Post results in Xyz Code, Uncoded on the Xbox-Scene forums in the Xbox Live section

-Fuzzy

OK, quick intro:

My setup specs are in my sig. Working fine in both Mod and Non Mod ( EJECT power-Up) while Xbox Live Beta was on. But since the 15th of Nov I have been unable to get on.
Called MS and after several days I got the question: "do you have a mod chip?" I said, "what's that?" :-) LOL

It seems that MS intentionately allowed people with moded boxes access to LIVE beta to record their info and made sure none or us that got on during that period with the mods active will be allowed back in, mod detected or no mod detected.

For reference here's my info:

1.00.4920.01

X: 0000 - 000D
Y: 00A8 - 6800
Z: 8015 - 190D

All the rest of info has "0" in it indicating no data going back and forth.

Both IP and DNS are in manual mode!

Now comes the big questions for the experts:

What do we need to change, and how, to get back on with the mod chip off?

well here's some info from my banned box with a v1 x-ecuter installed.

Auto DNS Manual IP

x: 0001-8005
y: 00a8-6800
z: 8015-190d

Auto DNS Auto IP

x: 0000-f001
y: 00a8-6860
z: 8015-190d

Auto IP Manual DNS

x: 0000-f009
y: 00a8-6860
z: 8015-190d

Manual IP Manual DNS

x: 0000-000d
y: 00a8-6800
z: 8015-190d


well thats about all I've checked so far. I also would like to add that i can "temporarily" connect to live if i set the date prior to november. When i set the date to... lets say october 6th 2002, and try to access the live menu from the xbox main screen i get a connected message. Normally i get a "unable to connect" message or something. When i try to press the connect button at the live menu, it performs the tests as usual but reverts the date back to the current one, and says the usual "xbox live not found". I don't know if this info is useful or not.

-fullhack

funny thing is, i have a mod chip installed and running and it even allows me to connect to the server, check that awhile ago once i get unlazy ill hook it back up to my internet and tell you my xyz,

great findings by the way

oh yeah, i also wanted to say turning off my mod did not change those xyz values at all.

-fullhack

BLOCKED with McAfee firewall (dns didnt resolve)

X:0000-f001
Y:008c-0060
Z:0000-274c

everything normal (I dont have a modded xbox)

X:0000-f001
Y:00a8-4860
Z:8015-1917


I live in Montreal, Quebec

Hmmm, my X: is not always zero. In fact, when I don't allow a net connection, my X: has a number set and my Y: and Z: are all zeros.

Just got Xbox Live, Took Evo X off my HDD and got rid of other bits n bobs so my HDD is like the original. X-ecuter 1.1 installed. (no switch yet) Not even attempted connecting yet but have installed Xbox Live. My X, Y, Z numbers are as follows.

X 8000-0011
Y 0000-0000
Z 0000-0000

Mines a US Xbox.

Just had a little thought bearing in mind im not a whizz kid at this sort of thing. Has anybody tried leaving the power unplugged from there Xbox so the CMOS resets as it doesnt hold the date and time after being unplugged for a couple of hours. It might affect the X Y Z numbers.

Only a thought though.

matrix mod with evox 2.5 xbox live not found, so i guess i'm banned

x: 0001 - 8005
y: 00A8 - 6800
z: 8015 - 190D

Thanks emoney

I was shitting it after reading the news on xbox-scene then checking my xyz codes on my Matrix mode 3 box but I got the excact same readings as you when connecting on automatic..
PHEW

Originally I was just going to post my numbers, but while I was trying out different settings to get more sets, I noticed some patterns I wanted to look at. Here's my theory:
I haven't looked at Z at all, and not much at Y, but I'm almost certain X and Y are sets of bitflags (I think probably Z too). That is, if you convert the numbers to binary, each bit represents a flag. 1 for on, 0 for off. It's about 7am and I haven't gone to sleep yet, so I'm going to make this quick and post what I've got so far and do some more tomorrow.

I'll describe them as:
X1X2 - X3X4
that is, X byte 1, X byte 2, etc.
And the flags I'll refer to as
X1.1 - 8
that is, X byte 1, flag(bit) 1 - 8.

Guesses so far:
X3.1 - IP Setup correctly
X4.4 - No cable detected
X4.5 - DNS Failure (set if both OR either DNS fails)
X4.6 - Manual IP config?
X4.7 - Cable detected, but not working

This would explain why working connections always seem to have X3 at F*. F means all four first flags are set, which appears to indicate success in those four areas. IE, in my test where I gave it the same IP as my PC and got an IP conflict, I got an X3 of 08, which means none of the first 4 flags are set. The only time I've seen flag X3.1 not set is when it can't get an IP.

Btw, fuzzy, did you actually get an X3X4 of F021 like you've used in your examples? If so, what was your setup? I've haven't seen X4.3 set and the X4s are what I've got the most on.

If anyone has info that doesn't fit with my theory lemme know, this is just what I came up with off no sleep at 7am I'll post some of my more interesting numbers/conditions for you tomorrow fuzzy.

-Ius

I believe I have been banned. Hope these codes will help you guys discover something.

cable unplugged:
X: 8000-0011
Y: 0000-0000
Z: 0000-0000

All automatic:
x: 0000-F001
Y: 00A8-6840
Z: 8015-190D

My mod is enabled all the time. It's a X-ecuter. Even during LIVE installation and account setup on Nov 15. I'm in Canada.

k i just got beta uk i have updated the dash have a locked 120g hdd with all my shit in f drive use fboot bios and only use live with mod off this is what i got

x: 0000-f001
y: 00ab-4840
z: 0000-0000

so whats the score can ms tell i have had a mod in my xbox and ban it anyway ?

Maybe you already knew this but it looks like all banned xbox's have:

Z:8015-190D

For thier Z number.

Also seems when a cable is unplugged it gives:

X 8000-0011

For the X number.

I don't have xbox live but these are findings gathered from peoples posts here. Hope it is somewhat useful.


skippy911

I’ve been researching this same thing ever since XBL went Live on the 15th of November. The 8015 in the Z section has nothing to do with banning chips, I’m 100% sure of this, I have 2 Xbox systems that are modded (homebrew with Evox 2.5 and an engimah final) I also have a non-modded xbox, and the person in my basement has a non-modded xbox too, I’ve got switches on my modded systems and I use the enigmah system to play on live, I’ve never had any connection issues with any games except Ghost Recon, which will not work on the two unmodded systems either. However my Z section is usually 0000-0000 on all systems but I have seen 8015 on all systems, including the unmodded systems, infact I can almost recreate 8015 now with almost 100% accuracy. If I consume mass amounts of bandwidth on my network (I have 3 computers running from my cable modem and one XBOX at a time) by downloading many things on my computers I will get 8015 almost always, and I will also almost always get lower DL and UL speeds too, and when I try to join any games I will almost always get “Network Connections will effect gameplay would you like to continue anyway” message. I have been using enigmah with a switch since Nov 15th and have not been banned, I’ve tried my homebrew with a switch and not banned and I’ve tried the two modded systems, all get same results. I think the 8015 tends to be more about network speeds being a bit slow than to do with banning, because if 8015 means a mod chip has been detected and banning will occur it wouldn’t make sense to get this on a unmodded system. I’ve also noticed that my upload and download speeds are almost always displayed wrong (a lot of people says theirs are too low, mine are usually too high??) anyway www.pcpitstop.com reports my cable connection as being somewhere between 800-1200 kbps 95% of the time, sometimes it will be 600 or even 1400 but rarely, average is somewhere around 950 or so, my uploads are usually reported between 300-600 95% of the time, sometimes it will fall to 200 or rise to 700 but rarely. On all four Xboxes I’ve tested my numbers are rarely similar to those, I’ve come to conclude that this is something to do with my ISP because another person I know with the same ISP gets similar results, however someone I know with a DSL connection (I have cable) gets very close to his DSL limits on DL but only about half on his UL with Xbox. Anyway, 90% of the time on all four Xboxes I will get same XYZ values X: 0000-F001 Y: 00A8-4840 Z: 0000-0000 when I consume bandwidth, as mentioned earlier, I usually get X: 0000-F001 Y: 00A8-4860 Z: 8015-1919 this is the same for all four Xboxes (two modded and two unmodded) about 90% of the time, sometimes the F001 in X will be different (so rarely I can’t remember what it is) and the second number in Y is sometimes 4820 (also very rarely) the other number are never anything other than what I have mentioned. On my DL the Xbox almost always tells me I have 4000-6000 Kbps which is high, rarely it will be 1400-1500 which is more realistic, and UL is usually over 9000 which is totally crazy, rarely it will display as 250 Kbps or so. My Ping is usually between 100-150 and sometimes goes up to 250 (which tends to be a issue with cable) and I almost always get 8/8 displayed but have seen 8/9 on occasion. To me it seems that the 8015 in Z has nothing to do with mods as I get them on unmodded systems too, I’m not sure if this is any good to you, but I hope it helps.

sorry to burst ur bubble nightrain but i have discovered that i was wrong about the 8015 it has nothing to do wiht banning or modchips, sorry. I thank you for pointing it out though, that first post was made wuite a while ago. this 8015 info is very interesting im reading right now. the speeds are always wrong, we already do know that. yes dsl s=does not work as well remember earlier i said they also vary depending on where you are.8/9? are you sure?

QUOTE

Maybe you already knew this but it looks like all banned xbox's have: Z:8015-190D

as for that, these numbers both have NOTHING to do with modchips. Sorry dude but inferences without enough info dont work . 8015 im working on (nightrain id like to talk with you some time about it) and 190D has to do with recieving packets and other info.

looks like its the 6840
i dont know shit about a fix for this but
could there be a way to make a tunnel for r pcs so r pc sends live the right code and r xboxs dont get banned

yes its the 6 at the beginning (read my other posts two, maybe those need to be stickied!) and it doesnt really work like that warbeast but undead and crew are working on something in their shop.

fuzzy i have been bad i moded 5 xboxs this week i uploaded the backup from evolution for safe keeping as i hate these people i might use them if i ever get band

what? i understood you modded 5 boxes and you dont want them getting banned but i dont understand the rest.

Sorry for English

My box is v1.0 4034. HDD 100 Go, Evox 2.6 Eject trick.

XBL FRANCE
IP Manu
DNS auto

X : 0001 - 8005
Y: 00A8 - 6000
Z : 8015 - 190D

XBL FRANCE
ALL Auto

X: 0000 - F0001
Y: 00A8 - 6860
Z : 8015 - 190D

Hi Guys Here are my settings with matrix in mode3. Brooklyn, NY

XBL with no connection problems, and not Banned.

X: 001C-F003
Y: 00A8-4800
Z: 0000-0000

people i need more info than just ur chip and ur code. I need what country ur in do u thin ur banned, conneciton problems, any eeprom or other changes, ESPECIALLY IF YOUR BOX IS CONNECTIONG OR NOT. i thank you for what you have contributed but i really need more detailed posts.

Hey fuzzy...front page news! Congrats man