from here:
http://warmcat.com/milksop/cheapmod.html

is this mod 256k, 512k or 1mb?

is it 29 wries or 10 wires?

easy to make and install?

go here and have a look at the fitting instructions. And it's 256k flashable from evox.

I just got some mods from cheepmod and it was top notch stuff
It took about a week to get here

mruell

Hehe I know that guy - good friend of mine

is teh cheapmod from www.cheapmod.com the same as the one in the tutorial from milksop?

if so then ill try build it myself, but is it easy to build? if i dont build it properly and try to fit into xbox will it destroy the xbox?

also, i heard of other homebrew mods (29wires) but has a 512kb chip

is it possible to put a 512kb chip into cheapmod?

is the cheapmod socketed? so if i stuff the flash from evox is can take the chip out and reflash using cheapLPC?

im read the intalling tut in www.cheapmod.com

so my undertanding is that it uses the LPC header like the X2, so only needs 1 wire to be soldered?

true?

The mod from cheapmod.com is the same design as the one from milksop, just built on a pcb with a header - much eaisier install and can be removed easily

Yes it uses the LPC header and only needs one wire to be soldered.

Don't know about how easy to build, I just got mine from cheapmod (ordered thursday night, got mod saturday morning) which was easier than tracking down the parts (chips can be tricky to get hold of) and paying multiple postage.

If you get it wrong it just won't boot - shouldn't screw your xbox in theory

You can't use 512k with cheapmod, but as long as the matrix is about there will always be suitable bios's around.

The chip is socketed so yes, if you screw it up you can use cheap lpc or you can use uniflash on a suitable motherboard.

I just bought one. It's supposed to work on Rev 1.1 XBox (Which I have). You can use either X-ecutor2 BIOS or Evox BIOS and run either Evox Dashboard or neXgen Dashboard. Also supports larger hard drives. If you don't like it, your LPC header is installed so just plug in another chip. The 2 main reasons I bought it is.....

1) With Fast shipping, it's half the price of the X-ecutor2 chips.

2) You can actually get one now...........

yeah but i want to build it myself to be cheaper,

it has a massive disadvantage, 256k

if i was going to buy a chip ill buy x2

The tutorial in milk's site isnt really newbie friendly, are there any more tutorials? for example,

1. There is no equipment list, it just launches into building it...

and from this quote:
"
First, here is the PLC C socket with the unused pins snipped off, and several pins straegically bent over to simplify soldering
...
Next we solder all the pins together, ...
"
What is a PLC C socket? and solder all pins together?? randomly? which pins goes to which? or all connected?

and then when it says to connect wires to the pins, it doesnt say which pins?

im very confused, it would be VERY helpful if someone pointed me in the right direction.

thanks

also

for the instructions to solder the link wire they dont really say where to solder it, it just gives pic...

and the link wire on here
http://www.cheapmod.com/pages/help.html

seems to be in a diff spot to
http://warmcat.com/milksop/cheapmod.html

once again i need a newbie tutorial that is more detailed

QUOTE (Daedalus @ Dec 1 2002, 12:17 AM)

Next we solder all the pins together, ... " What is a PLC C socket? and solder all pins together?? randomly? which pins goes to which? or all connected? and then when it says to connect wires to the pins, it doesnt say which pins? im very confused, it would be VERY helpful if someone pointed me in the right direction. thanks

Right under the words Overview u see two drawings, the one at left is bottomside of the PLCC32 socket showing wich pins to link and the one to the right is the LPC port at the xbox mobo showing which pins to solder to.

what is it u don't understand?

either one is ok. As you can see one end stays the same on both, it's the other end that changes. Both conections are going to ground (0volts) This turns off the onboard bios and allows the cheapmod to take over.

I must say that for the couple of pounds (or dollars) that you might save you really would be better off buying one readymade. Just sourcing the chip is hard enough aswell as the pin headers. £15 for a built and flashed mod is very good value and the service from cheapmod.com is second to none.

from http://www.ozchips.com/xbox.htm

the top connecting wire seems to be soldered onto two points

is this right?

That's only one point, just bad photo.

This is a cool mod, ive made many of them, only thing is that it suppoers only 256k, and EX "says" they will be making 512k bios. Good thing i also have my onboard tsop flashed

QUOTE

Next we solder all the pins together, ... " What is a PLC C socket? and solder all pins together?? randomly? which pins goes to which? or all connected? and then when it says to connect wires to the pins, it doesnt say which pins? im very confused, it would be VERY helpful if someone pointed me in the right direction. thanks

Daedelus:

I'm going to have to agree with Blackout here-- just spring for the prefabbed PCB version! Though, if you insist on going it alone, here are some pointers:

1) The SST chip is in a packaging called PLCC; the PLCC socket is that brown casing-like-thingy where you pop the chip in, and it has the pins coming out of the bottom.

2) NEVER EVER EVER solder stuff randomly

Good Luck!

mc

I don't wish to sound condescending, but...

If you don't even know what a PLCC socket is, do you really think you should be messing with this just to save a bit of money?

Anyway...

I agree with what Boxman and Blackout says. Just buy one from Cheapmod.com

When you see the high quality of these mods, you'll be happy you did.

Ok, I know the guy, so I would say that, you might be thinking. Maybe. But because I know him, I also know that he knows exactly what he is doing, does a very good job, and will not rip you off. I've bought two of these from him, even though I know where he gets the parts and could just get them myself for cheaper. But there's no point. It's easier this way, plus, as I said, he does a very high quality job.

Also, when you solder up the pin header (supplied free with the mod), that gives you another option... If you ever decide that you need more than 256K on your mod (and to be honest, unless you are planning on developing something for the Xbox, I don't see why you would) then you can just UNPLUG this mod and PLUG IN an X2 directly to the same connector. No messing about.

k thanks

ill prob just buy one then, it wasnt so much for a cost saving (after seeing how cheap it is at cheapmod.com and other places) but really for teh experience and coolness of saying 'i made my own xbox modchip'

also, is the pin header all that important? cause without the pin header the cheapmod sells for slightly cheaper.