Scenyx Entertainment Community > Noob Guide To Trainers

AE6689

Jan 17 2004, 04:22 AM

Someone please write a complete n00b guide to trainers. I have no idea what they are how to use them or what they do. There's tutorials on everything and I think that this would be a good one for people such as myself. (btw you are a much smarter person than me and i'm very proud of you

) Anyway a trainer tutorial would be very nice. TY

EDIT: Wow! I asked a question and it got pinned!

Nice job btw on the tutorial Oger

Oger

Jan 17 2004, 08:36 AM

Its late im bored I give it a whack I guess learned about trainers today but I guess I give it a shot

First off make sure you have the most up to date EvoX Version

1) Download the trainer you want from

http://trainers.evolutionx.info

or

http://trainers.maxconsole.com/

2) Connect to your xbox and transfer the files that you downloaded to your c:/Trainers

3) Now reboot your xbox

4) If you have the default EvoX.ini ...then on the main menu in EvoX go to Trainers

5)Select the Trainer you want.

6)Now select the cheats you want..infinite health, infinite money etc....

7)Now go into Evo Settings and make sure you have

IGR-->Yes <-Not 100% sure if you need this

TSR-->Yes

8) Reboot

9) Now load your game using either DVD/HD

10) Thats It

hopefully that can help someone

feel free to add its late for me hehe

pubick

Jan 23 2004, 06:52 PM

will this permenitly hack the game if its on your HD or just for that time only?

heinrich

Jan 25 2004, 03:19 AM

QUOTE (pubick @ Jan 23 2004, 03:52 PM)

will this permenitly hack the game if its on your HD or just for that time only?

just that one time

THDVL

Jan 26 2004, 12:16 AM

I have igr and tsr both turned on.. my trainers in c:/trainers, i have them enabled and the cheats that i want enabled, but none of em seem to work. I cant figure out what i could be doing wrong. If anyone has any advice please let me know. -- not a noob just havin hell w/ trainers.

Heh.. NM I got it.. had to update evox.

ar_156

Jan 28 2004, 11:02 AM

I can't get lot of them work.
Finding Nemo: game leve selection opens but can't play them
Kill switch: crash the game after some minutes
Sims Busting Out: nothing work
Buffy2: nothing work

etc.

XLNC

Feb 8 2004, 09:30 PM

Tese Evox trainers are shit! They don't work at all, I tried the true crime trainer and nothing happened.

jokk

Feb 9 2004, 06:34 PM

all are tested, if you're too dumb to get a trainer matchin ur game region, no one can help you !

heinrich

Feb 9 2004, 07:04 PM

QUOTE (XLNC @ Feb 8 2004, 06:30 PM)

Tese Evox trainers are shit! They don't work at all, I tried the true crime trainer and nothing happened.

I havent had one fail yet.

XLNC

Feb 9 2004, 08:59 PM

I've got the PAL version of the trainer for True Crime which is also PAL. I've enabled TSR and also IGR but it doesn't work. The game doesn't start up.

Corspegrinder99

Feb 13 2004, 01:11 AM

trainers rock!!!!

skinz-n-bonez

Feb 20 2004, 07:18 AM

can't seem to get my trainers to work either....all .etm files are in my c:/trainres folder. TSR Normal...IGR Yes

am i missing something else?

turned all of them on....saved and then exit....help...anyone!!!

dootdoo

Feb 20 2004, 10:00 AM

The most common problem seems to be with using the wrong version of the game with the trainer. The other problem people seem to run into is they turn on tsr, but don't reboot, and then say the trainers don't work. If you could either start a thread listing what you've tried, or send me the list in a pm I'll try and assist you in diagnosing the problem if you have followed the guide in this thread. (this goes for anyone)

Muntzster

Feb 22 2004, 03:15 PM

maybe they r activating it wrong... u guys that r having problems .. do you have ur chips on.. is the game on ur HD??

ComputerDude5565

Feb 25 2004, 10:52 PM

Ok cant seem to get kill.switch to work. 4981.06 on a 2.3B Pro with a locked 200 Gig. Maxtor with 3935 and TSR set to normal and IGR on. Rebooted even powerd off and let it sit for a minute still nothing. Is it the bios do I need to use M7 (team EvoX's bios)?

dootdoo

Feb 26 2004, 01:42 AM

Did you go into the trainer menu and turn the game options on?

Topper

Feb 26 2004, 04:24 PM

I havent got anything on my menu or config file for trainers, I've got the menu on my C: but thats about it, how do I edit it into the evox.ini file?

Im using Evox +3921

ComputerDude5565

Feb 26 2004, 06:39 PM

Topper upgrade to 3935.

dootdoo what is the game options dont recall seing it

athirne

Mar 6 2004, 12:15 AM

About the TSR and IGR thing:

I dont have a TSR but a TSR_type listed in my .ini (yes I have the latest verson). Anyways here is what it says:

TSR_Type = 0
IGR = YES

Now I changed the IGR to yes, but I am not sure what to do with the TSR. Do I add that value? Do I change TSR_Type to 1 or yes?

JusKickNit

Mar 6 2004, 09:35 AM

EDIT: Sorry, Wrong Post

FireOne

Mar 10 2004, 02:52 PM

Same thing here
Using
1) evox dashboard 3935
2) TSOP evox bios 2.5y
3) TSR = normal
4) IGR=1
5) some trainers in c:\trainers
6) enabled all ninja gaiden options for example
7) Region: default
8) reboot xbox
9) play ninja gaiden (difference between warez or original version?)
10) effect NONE

Same for 007 everything or nothing
Seems to me that lots of people use these steps and it doesn't work.
If thats the case I rather use working released by the scene trainers
Otherwise make some damn better documentation and troubleshooting guide

Ps2Socom

Mar 10 2004, 06:44 PM

same prob as fireone, no effect in ninja gaiden.... fuking hard ass game....

Jagosix

Mar 11 2004, 04:42 AM

Hello

. Even though i dont need the trainer for NinjaGaiden I just tried it n-e-way just 2 c if it would work. My settings r as follows.

1. PBL 1.4 4979_BFM/4979.67 (X2) Switch installed.
2.Evox 3935+ (latest evox

3.IGR=NO
4.TSR=Normal
5. Save & exit

I then went 2 the trainer screen & selected the options that i wanted. Then i saved & rebooted. It worked like a charm.

U can learn something from everybody.

choleva

Mar 14 2004, 07:00 PM

Guy's i think its because you guys yell to much "help" instead of really trying.

Ok follow these steps:

1. TSR: Normal

2. Find out what game region your Xbox backup is, then go to the Settings menu and select the right region. For example - If the backup is an PAL and the trainer is NTSC and you turn all the stuff on(Money, infinite health) and then you go select the game and then you find out that it doesn't work, And you say "Hey TRAINERS ARE FUCKING crapzuiziet!".

You can find the region in the Video section in the video section there is something called Game Region instead of "default" switch it to what ever region the trainer is!(TIP: It is in the bottom).

I have done this and it has always worked.

* Remember (Put all your trainers in c:/trainer and only the .etm file. - I also put the .asm file in, but this is not necessary it is just the code).

Rob1302

Mar 15 2004, 01:33 AM

what if i got a trainer like this one Ninja.Gaiden.Plus5.Trainer.XBOX-DNL..but this is to replace the default.xbe file and if i alreayd burnt my game..is there a way to change this into a evox trainer so i can upload the the hdd and use from there?

choleva

Mar 16 2004, 12:05 PM

I don't think so. - Although you can get a Ninja Gaiden Trainer, i use one myself...

Rob1302

Mar 16 2004, 10:04 PM

damn aiight..yeah i saw the evox trainer or ninja gaiden..but it's only a +3 one and it's different then the other one which is +5

choleva

Mar 17 2004, 02:19 PM

QUOTE (Rob1302 @ Mar 17 2004, 12:04 AM)

damn aiight..yeah i saw the evox trainer or ninja gaiden..but it's only a +3 one and it's different then the other one which is +5

You'll Probably have to burn it again with that .xbe if you really want to cheat with that file.

Rob1302

Mar 17 2004, 10:18 PM

yewah damn that's not worth it hehe..k thanx

zoombee

Mar 18 2004, 11:17 AM

i can't seem to get this trainer to work..its the first time i'm working with evox trainers...

http://trainers.evolutionx.info/index.php?dlid=153

I got a NTSC/UC machine with Evox 3935

i have tried the following settings as per users of various forums..

TSR = DEBUG
IGR = Yes
Game Region = 2 (as trainer is NTSC / US)

or

TSR = NORMAL
IGR = No
Game Region = 2

still aint getting anything working..i'm still dying even though i have infinite health "ON" ...hmmm....stuck at the horse boss fustrating

swifferman

Mar 18 2004, 01:41 PM

bah
this is bull. I don't have a trainers menu. I'll go see how hard it is to update evox.

The one found on the evox page is a .emt and everyones saying replace the .xbe, well, where the hell is the xbe in the trainers

?

Sadness

majik655

Mar 20 2004, 05:10 AM

QUOTE (swifferman @ Mar 18 2004, 07:41 AM)

bah
this is bull. I don't have a trainers menu. I'll go see how hard it is to update evox.

The one found on the evox page is a .emt and everyones saying replace the .xbe, well, where the hell is the xbe in the trainers

?

Sadness

First there are 2 types of trainers being released.

Main stream trainers .. meaning REPLACING the XBE file ..
naming the trainer xbe file to default.xbe and RENAMING the game default.xbe to GAME.xbe ..

the second are EVOX TRAINERS ...(.ETM files) these trainers are to work ONLY with evox..and that is it. The newer versions of evox IF taken from the source..will have a Trainers folder on c: and a place in the ini file pointing to trainers..so it will show up in the menu... then select the option in the evox menu and it will list the .etm files you put in the trainers folder on the c:

Now there are good and bad things about the 2...

The mainstream ones you need to rename.. are cool.. but you must..
modify...and also alot of times because you rename the trainer to DEFAULT.XBE ..
dashboards look at this file for the NAME of the game... and will populate it in their games listing... however lets say DNL released the trainer.. it may say DNL GAMENAME TRAINER ... instead of just GAMENAME this may make you want to change the name of the trainer so that it will show the correct game name...etc etc.,.that is more modifying.

Evox.. on the other hand seems to give people problems.. with IGR ..TSR .. and different bios's being run...also it MAKES you HAVE to use evox as a dashboard to even run the trainer. the other ones will allow you to use ANY dashboard.

Now alot of people have or had problems running the etm files..including myself..
but I got them to work fine..
so here is what made mine work.. NO OTHER OPTION works for me besides these..

ASSUMING YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THE CORRECT TRAINER BASED ON THE REGION OF THE GAME YOU ARE USING IT ON!!! meaning PAL trainer on PAL game NTSC on NTSC!! THIS IS A MUST! and is probably HALF of peoples problems.

Version 1.0
x2 4981 Bios TSOP FLASHED

evox 3935
TSR - NORMAL (I HAD TO TURN TO NORMAL I think it was off before)
IGR OFF (very wierd I assumed it needed to be on BUT MY BIOS HAS IT!
so I believe there was a conflict before when on.)

Hope this helps some people.

zoombee

Mar 20 2004, 01:40 PM

QUOTE (majik655 @ Mar 20 2004, 07:10 AM)

QUOTE (swifferman @ Mar 18 2004, 07:41 AM)

bah
this is bull. I don't have a trainers menu. I'll go see how hard it is to update evox.

The one found on the evox page is a .emt and everyones saying replace the .xbe, well, where the hell is the xbe in the trainers

?

Sadness

First there are 2 types of trainers being released.

Main stream trainers .. meaning REPLACING the XBE file ..
naming the trainer xbe file to default.xbe and RENAMING the game default.xbe to GAME.xbe ..

the second are EVOX TRAINERS ...(.ETM files) these trainers are to work ONLY with evox..and that is it. The newer versions of evox IF taken from the source..will have a Trainers folder on c: and a place in the ini file pointing to trainers..so it will show up in the menu... then select the option in the evox menu and it will list the .etm files you put in the trainers folder on the c:

Now there are good and bad things about the 2...

The mainstream ones you need to rename.. are cool.. but you must..
modify...and also alot of times because you rename the trainer to DEFAULT.XBE ..
dashboards look at this file for the NAME of the game... and will populate it in their games listing... however lets say DNL released the trainer.. it may say DNL GAMENAME TRAINER ... instead of just GAMENAME this may make you want to change the name of the trainer so that it will show the correct game name...etc etc.,.that is more modifying.

Evox.. on the other hand seems to give people problems.. with IGR ..TSR .. and different bios's being run...also it MAKES you HAVE to use evox as a dashboard to even run the trainer. the other ones will allow you to use ANY dashboard.

Now alot of people have or had problems running the etm files..including myself..
but I got them to work fine..
so here is what made mine work.. NO OTHER OPTION works for me besides these..

ASSUMING YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THE CORRECT TRAINER BASED ON THE REGION OF THE GAME YOU ARE USING IT ON!!! meaning PAL trainer on PAL game NTSC on NTSC!! THIS IS A MUST! and is probably HALF of peoples problems.

Version 1.0
x2 4981 Bios TSOP FLASHED

evox 3935
TSR - NORMAL (I HAD TO TURN TO NORMAL I think it was off before)
IGR OFF (very wierd I assumed it needed to be on BUT MY BIOS HAS IT!
so I believe there was a conflict before when on.)

Hope this helps some people.

i'm having the same bios & evox version as u..

doing the same thing even ntsc on ntsc doesn't work for me
IGR off or on doesn't make any difference either..its getting fustrating cos i'm stuck in ninja gaiden

majik655

Mar 20 2004, 02:02 PM

QUOTE (zoombee @ Mar 20 2004, 07:40 AM)

i'm having the same bios & evox version as u..

doing the same thing even ntsc on ntsc doesn't work for me
IGR off or on doesn't make any difference either..its getting fustrating cos i'm stuck in ninja gaiden

Did EVOX even make a Ninja Gaiden trainer yet?

Also.. your last thread points to I-NINJA not ninja gaiden... (just making sure you are not thinking I-Ninja trainer is the Ninja Gaiden trainer)

QUOTE

i have tried the following settings as per users of various forums..

TSR = DEBUG
IGR = Yes
Game Region = 2 (as trainer is NTSC / US)

or

TSR = NORMAL
IGR = No
Game Region = 2

GAME REGION 2 ??? NTSC?? I believe NTSC is region 1 isn't it?
Just make sure your trainer is NTSC and your game region is the same.

I know there has been a "mainstream" one released where you rename the default.xbe file in the game to GAME and the trainer to default.xbe...

For those to work ... turn IGR OFF and TSR off

Maybe that will help...

I really do not know why so many people have problems... I have done this to many many machines and don't have any problems anymore...pretty strange there are sooo many differences.

zoombee

Mar 21 2004, 01:59 AM

sorry i meant the trainer for evox dashboard.
cannot seem to get that to work.

have u given it a try alreadY?

really been through so many possibilities still no good news....

majik655

Mar 21 2004, 07:12 AM

QUOTE (zoombee @ Mar 20 2004, 07:59 PM)

sorry i meant the trainer for evox dashboard.
cannot seem to get that to work.

have u given it a try alreadY?

really been through so many possibilities still no good news....

Well from what it looks like.. the trainer works but is I guess not as easy as just not dying.. you must use or buy unlimited elixor's etc etc.. to stay alive.. however whatever you purchase you must have the correct amount of money .. you can just purchase unlimited amounts of it.

Next .. it seems it messes up the game in chapter 13 if you use 2 of the options together... also if you have already played to that point where you cannot go any further.. then you must start over from last save.

I have not tried this trainer yet.. because I do not have the patience to see if it is working.. I don't know anything about the game.. and since it is free money type of trainer .. it would probably take a little bit of playing to figure out if it is working.

I would try a "easier" game.. meaning one that has a trainer like Invincibility.. and just turn that option on.. and see if you can get it working.. on ONE game..
such as state of emergency.. if you get one working.. then ALL should work.. and if they do not, then you know it is the trainer and not your box.

whozyodaddy

Mar 30 2004, 02:22 AM

for game region can i put AUTO or do i have to put NTSC? i tried it with DEFAULT and it did not work.

EDIT: yaayy! i put it on NTSC and it works now.

good job mate

jedi745

Apr 12 2004, 12:13 AM

does the fact that the games are on the hardrive have anything to do with the trainers? and what if im using THC as my dash and i go into evox from there to use the trainers, is that a problem?

Emt269

May 2 2004, 02:32 AM

I have just installed a new maxtor 200gb hard drive and have used slayers to install evox and reinstalled my c: and E: drive backups which had trainers in the listing before but now since I have done the upgrade and reinstalled the copied diretories and foldrs the way they were and to the same partition on the drive as before I now have no trainer tab to access them. They are in a folder on the c:\trainors just like always but can not access them. Help. Thanks

Argoyle

May 5 2004, 01:12 AM

you need to upgrade evox/add Item "Trainers",ID_trainer to evox.ini.

Now for my question. All I see in the trainer option is "Sorry Trainers". The evox readme does not cover this issue. Do I need to upgrade my bios?

Argoyle

May 13 2004, 11:36 AM

bah nvm, I'm dumb. I was supposed to put the trainers folder in C:/ but that was assuming that's where evox is, which it isn't for me. I moved it to my evox folder and it worked. yay.

magemasher89

May 17 2004, 05:43 PM

i had the same damn problem for a some time now and i am following what you just did also.
i added a new folder called trainers and placed under c:. this is where the trainer.etm files go correct?

I am rebooting my xbox to seem if it takes affect. brb
ok after rebooting under my main menu i get Trainers, but accessing it displays nothing.

So i am at a stopping point and doing research on this.

any help would be great.

magemasher89

May 18 2004, 05:58 PM

they are located down a ways on the trainers by pushing down on the dpad.
hidden so to speak but they are there.

snake3k1

May 19 2004, 11:57 AM

i just got thses trainers to work, TSR = normal, IGR = OFF, Region = Auto

snake3k1

May 19 2004, 11:59 AM

i just found this good site for trainers.....

http://trainers.maxconsole.com/index.php?d...Trainer%20Files

AZImmortal

May 28 2004, 05:35 AM

QUOTE (jedi745 @ Apr 11 2004, 06:13 PM)

and what if im using THC as my dash and i go into evox from there to use the trainers, is that a problem?

i have the same question. does evox have to be my default dash in order to use the evox trainers?

DevaNinja

Jun 8 2004, 03:32 AM

Does the game have to be on the HD for the trainer to work?

snake3k1

Jun 19 2004, 11:44 PM

i think you just have to launch the game from evox, so if u let the dash boot up, then insert the disc and select launch game, it should b ok, but i haven't personally tried it

KingDing-a-Ling

Jun 25 2004, 04:07 PM

If I don't have Debug TSR in my .ini, does that mean I have an umcompatible version of EvoX?

*edit* NM, wasn't current release...modified the .ini, blah blah blah, and problem fixed. I like the Ninja Gaiden trainer from DNL.

Gizzmos13

Jun 27 2004, 06:15 PM

I have installed two trainers that I want to use in c:\trainers, but evox cant see them. Whats up?