used dvd2xbox to copy both, and get dirty disc errors any news of anyone else having this problem, and how to fix it?

tried using caxtion to patch the xbe no luck, any ideas?

i really need help with this it is totally strrange I searched everywhere and nothing please help

Hmm.. I haven't heard about these games have any particular problems..

One thing you can try is deleting any safe game info on these games (through your MS dash).. I am guessing you are using the latest version of DVD2xbox and that all files were copied ? (it doesn't report any files failing?)

I would also try a different method to back it up. .like FTPings off the machine (directly off the disc) and burning to a disc and see what happens (a DVD+rw is you have the ability)..