Here's the scenario:

My brother bought me an xbox and had his friend mod it, it's got an xecuter chip, an 80 gig drive, and evox dash. I've had no information on whether the dvd drive has been changed or what model the xecuter chip is. After reading I'm 90% sure I have the xecuter 2.0 pro and I think the dvd drive is stock.

Just the other day I went and bought an xbox live subscription, because I was told I could and I've read in numerous tutorials that it's possible. So I turned my chip off and registered my new subscription. It let me go through the whole registration process, but when I tried to access xbox live from the ms dash it said there's was a problem and I could trouble shoot my network, ( I'm positive all my network settings are correct ). It would work fine when I trouble shooted it, but when I tried accessing it from the ms dash or through a game it told me something was wrong and to try again later. So I tried again the following day, and then it started saying that I can't access live because my hardware / software might have been modified. I knew obviously I've been banned.

I bought a new eeprom from someone else on these forums who has sold quite a few of them and read about team xecuter that doesn't let you access live with a modchip on. So I flashed my bios, and even had the eject light red so I know for sure when my modchip is on / off. I then used config magic and installed the new eeprom. I'm sure I did this all correctly ( I'm a software engineer myself ), the network settings in the msdash were changed and my live account wasn't listed ( as I expected with the new eeprom ). So with the modchip off I recovered my account, and the same exact scenario happened yesterday, and now today it's telling me my hardware/software my have been modified.

I don't know if maybe is has something to do with the files on the harddrive because they seemed a tad odd. On the c drive for xbe files there's:
evoxdash.xbe - 10.1kb
msxboxdash.xbe - 1.32mb
xboxdash.xbe - 1.83mb
yboxdash.xbe - 680kb

Like I said I had nothing to do with installing anything because it was a gift ( I wish they would've left it up to me to do ). So I was wondering if anyone else experienced a similar problem and knew why, or if they knew something else besides having a modchip on that triggers live to ban you?

I don't know what being a software engineer and using Configmagic have to do with eachother, but oh well..

Maybe the EEPROM you purchased, was purchased by somebody else too, and they got it banned. Who knows

If you are sure your modchip is properly turning off (best to use a colormod BIOS), then it has to be the situation I said above.

just stated I was a software engineer, to let you know I'm not just some random moron.

As far as the eeprom being sold to someone else and having been banned already, I bought it from Zodiak, who as far as I can see has had no other complaints, so I don't see why that would be the case. As for being sure my mod chips off, I've tried accessing live with it on now that I'm already banned to see if the new bios would work as it's supposed too. There's a huge time difference, when it's on it errors almost immediately when I try ( like it's supposed to ). When it's off it takes about 20-30 seconds to tell me I've been banned.

I know for a fact the eeprom I sent you is solid because it was from a box I had just modded that day. Unless, somehow the eeprom on his box was no good, that could be the only way it wouldn't work.

Zodiak you're making some really poor assumptions, I already stated that I didn't think the eeprom was bad because now I've been banned twice WITH MY MOD CHIP OFF. lemme spell this out for you too, I DIDN'T ACCESS LIVE WITH MY MOD CHIP ON UNTIL I WAS ALREADY BANNED, THAT WASN'T THE CAUSE AND THE NEW BIOS WORKED AS IT WAS SUPPOSED, PREVENTING ME FROM EVEN GETTING CLOSE TO ACCESSING LIVE. The error with the modchip on is: can't access live try again later. The error with it off is: can't access live because hardware / software may have been modified. with it on it takes less then a second to pop up an error ( LIKE THE NEW BIOS IS SUPPOSED TOO ) and with it off it takes 20-30 seconds to connect to live.

I don't know how many more different ways you want me to explain that to you, yet I'm still banned.

I didn't make any poor assumptions. You have to put yourself in my situation, as an eeprom seller. My entire thread is heavily dependant on keeping my reputation clean. The very second any ONE person begins to claim or say the eeprom was no good, I MUST defend myself. Which is exactly why I save all email's and out going email's for any claims I see to tarnish myself as a reputable seller.

Your post may in fact have meant well, in that you did NOT mean to say the eeprom I gave you was invalid. You could have very well meant that you know for a fact the eeprom was good, but for reasons unknown it did not. However:

Whatever you thought was the reason for not getting on live, DOES NOT MATTER, other people will read this thread, see my name, and POSSIBLY be skeptical, and will undoubtly assume the worst. This of course should not be so, but that is the way people DO think, especially with eeprom's.

There's a number of ways and reasons why an eeprom could not be working properly, and why some people are still unable to connect. But as a seller, I automatically become liable for any type of unsuccuessful consequences.

Therefore, regardless of what your intentions were (seemingly well), I HAVE to reply and defend myself.

NOTE: There was no need to send me email containing vulgarity, especially after I have been researching why you are unable to connect. And regarding this:

Okay now try to understand my position. I've already stated all the precautions I've taken to make sure my xbox didn't access live with my modchip on, and stated why I'm sure I was banned while it was off, my message was misleading and for that I appologize, I'm not frustrated with not getting an explanation I'm frustrated with being told I'm banned for accessing live with my modchip on which I've already explained numerous times that's not the case.

How ever to clear things up, I'm as certain as I can be that the eeprom I recieved from zodiiak was clean, the only reason I mentioned his name was to show I recieved it from a respectable seller, and that recieving an already banned eeprom was probably not the case. Zodiak is a stand up guy and I would advise buying an eeprom from him if you're in need.

But I hope you can understand my frustration when I'm sure I followed the directions very carefully and executed them correctly, but I'm being told I haven't, if no one has an explanation then fine, but don't tell me I've done something I haven't.

p.s. I'm also quite sure it's not a network configuration error.

Also just today my brother has the same chip I have and the same hd, he had a problem where when he tried to turn his modchip off it said his xbox needed to be serviced so I went over there locked his hd for him, turned his chip off and setup his xbox live account, and his works fine. So like I've said I followed the tutorials and instructions correctly but I've been banned twice. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for clearing that up even further

Maybe you should try loading your brother's eeprom on your XBOX to see if it will work. There is a risk of course that it will be banned if there is something odd going around, but this will serve as a good test.

Yea I thought about that, but he won't even let me load my live account on his xbox because he's afraid they tagged my account ( which I know they don't do ), so yea that's out of the question. I'm still baffeled why mine has been banned twice, and I still think those 4 xbe files are odd ( the yboxdash.xbe - 680kb anyways ).

Having yboxdash.xbe (which dash is that for you anyways?) will no ZERO effect on whether MS will ban you are not. When the modchip is off, only xboxdash.xbe will load.

Well I would agree with you there if I haven't already been banned twice with my modchip off, as for which dash that is, I haven't got a clue, that's a file that appeared only after I tried to get on live ( I think ). I'm also not sure if the msdash was named xboxdash.xbe before I tried to access ( it had to have been though if it loaded with the default bios right? ).

Is it possible to just completely whipe the xbox live files from the hd and get a new copy of the msdash so that I can try again with a clean eeprom, or do you think that's just a waste of time? and if it is possible which files would I be removing?

right I understand that, I also know I can get a clean eeprom to try it with, I just don't know where that dash file came from because like i said this xbox was a gift from my brother it came premodded. So I was wondering if the dash files were possibly named incorrectly when I got them and I didn't know and maybe caused a bad update.

okay here my thoughts. Ive banned twice now with mod chip of also and the file yboxdash.xbe is a file put in after a download of the new xbox live dashboard is done. i think that MS has found a way to look at your xbox harddrive for for certain things to see if its beed modified.

Hi,

I'm a software engineering student, and I had a similar problem yesterday.

I logged on, got modified xbox error, messed around and changed the dash, xbox-live updated the dash (didn't know banned xbox's could do this).

I have no idea how I'm banned, and i don't see how it could be from live games with the modchip on. I kind of suspect I got banned from corrupt/inconsistent EEPROM/x-live files on HDD. serves me right for messing around i guess

Anyway since the update the ban arror message changes to xbox-live is no longer found, with WXYZ
0000-000B
0000-F001
008A-0C62
AFFF-0018

I don't know what the codes were back when it said modified xbox.

edit: quoted too much

as far as the yboxdash.xbe i thought it might've been a file from an xbox-live update of some sort, but it turned out to be another copy of evoxdash.xbe, i dunno why the guy had a copy of it on there or why he renamed it or how it got there or anything, but yea that had nothin to do with it. still haven't figured out how i've been banned twice with my mod chip off though, i'm going to uninstall live take a look at all the shit on the hd and fix it till i'm satisfied, and then try live with a 3rd clean eeprom, i'll let ya know how it goes.

I wouldnt be so sure that M$ aren't checking for files on the harddrive, the first time i got banned was due to my stupidity in the fact i accidently played CS with my mod on but the second time i was so careful ( color mod, hand on power cable ) and I know for sure i never played with the mod enabled yet I still got banned...

On a side note I was on the phone to xbox and was on the network troubleshoot thing and i was just fiddling with buttons and then a disclaimer window popped up with the message 'PLACEHOLDER'. Kinda wierd


Ok so I just went through my problems about not being able to connect but because my ISP and router aren't "supported" they cant escalate the problem any further than checking my xbox basic connection settings.

I know you had said you're getting a "software/hardware modified" screen but you might have 4981 xecuter bios, http://www.teamxecuter.com/x24981_xbl.htm. It's probably not the case, but check it out.

shanafan I know what you've told me already and I also know that I've been banned with my chip off twice.

Jackpot the first time I was banned I didn't have xecuter's new bios, the second time I got banned I did ( I flashed it myself so I wouldn't get banned a second time thinking maybe I just screwed up the first time ... which obviously isn't the case, and yes I'm sure i'm banned and have been twice my xyz codes confirm it ).

So like I said I'm gonna give it another go and let ya know what happens. but shanafan there's gotta be something else that can trigger it, cuz i'm 100% sure my mod chip was off when i got banned.

My Xbox was just banned as well. I have been using it for over 15 months with no issues and have not been on Live with my Mod chip enabled. A few days ago xboxlive said it could not connect. I thought nothing of it and didn't play online. Tried it again tonight and now it gives me a modified Xbox Error . The only thing that has changed on my Xbox was a mandatory update 4 or 5 days ago for XBL. Did this update check something that banned me or is MS now using additional methods to determine if you have a mod to ban users?

Same boat as you guys with switched TSOP... this is killing me, I have been though 3 EEPROMS now, and at wits end.

Yes I can read directions. No it still gets banned... ZO was nice enogh to give me an extra EEPROM for free, after his 1st didn't work for me...

One thing that I have been thinking about is the MSDash on the C drive came from Slayers, could this posibly be the culperate? Do others that have this problem have the Dash from Slayers on C? or was it copeid from there old HDD?

Just an idea,

-Daggo

EDIT: posted 2x.... damn back button

im not pointing any fingers, but wat if someone found a way to create a so called "eeprom" generator, that contains the eeproms of thousands of eeproms, banned and unbanned, could that possibly be a culprit of all these problems?

I belive... not 100% sure that the EEPROMS are encrypted w/ checksum info, though it would be very easy to generate bad EEPROMs valid ones would be much more complex.... If any one could verify this.


On another note, I would not be suprised if M$ kept a list of manufactued EEPROMs that was checked Vs. LIVE, although that is just pure spectulation, it could be done w/ ease.

-Daggo

ohh don't you get banned if you do not lock your new HD that you installed?

that could be the problem.

Um if the HD was unlocked the dash would not boot, and you would have no issues with being banned on live.

Thanks - Daggo

Im experiencing a similar problem. I just installed a modchip a few days ago. Don't think i connected to xbox live with it on but i might have. I do know that when i first modded it it booted up to the default dashboard and tried to do the whole auto login thing but i turned off the box right away. I just started getting the error message tonight. maybe they are banning modded xboxs in a new way now. i dont want to buy a new eeprom if they are.

as far as eeproms if someone took some time i doubt it would be hard to decrypt ... i mean viewing it in plain ascii form you can see the serial number with notepad ... so generating a one that's valid but probably won't work on live ( they probably use ranges etc... ) is plausable.

Anyways yea I got banned again btw with that last one so I dunno I might just buy an xbox to play on live since the modded one was free to me anyways and now I have an xbox live subscription that i only use on the weekends on my brothers box.

This XBL Hdd checking has got a lot of panites in a bunch. Its gonna make a lot of people very very parinoid. I"m in the west coast, CA SACRAMENTO, everytime i get banned it happens very very quickly.

I think the final word on this will only be told in time, and of course pay by the month for xbl

i think the colermod bios are the problem hear. that would mean he chip isnt compleatly off. that could get you banned but i dont knoe. but the prosses of elmition leads to that. as for the hd check thats always been around and they never banned anyone but maybe they changed that.

yea right they cant see F or G there not idiots. ur not fooling no one. they read these forums like the rest of us and are always on top. they can do pretty much watever they want when they want and ud never know it using there products. get used to it. a mod chip doesnt mean everything is now free. give some and take some

Lock you fucking HDD

I've been wondering about this post for a while. I'm glad I have my original harddrive in my box, and just burn all the games to dvdr.

Odd problem....... if the eeprom is good and the modchip is off it has to be the hard drive..... What I would suggest would be to wipe the hard drive totally. Then, make a backup of someone else's hard drive and put all that info on your drive.

If that didn't work, then either your modchip is on or the eeprom is bad or set up wrong. I seriously doubt that the eeprom is bad. Very hard to figure out what's wrong without looking at the box personally, tho.

Glad I ain't a software eng .... they seem to get banned alot on live.....lol

80% of so called computer guru's with some form of computer degree are usually just above computer illitericy anyway.....and ya I can't spell .. I failed english, eh