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Jameson42
QUOTE(consilium @ Jul 15 2005, 04:26 PM)
Yeah, sure...forgot to mention that, I'll probably use SPDIF to output sound. Do you have any ideas or tips on how to disassemble the cable connector? I managed to reveal the metal casing, but I have no idea on how to properly open it...I don't want to damage it.

Will it be easy to see those shorted wires on the connector once I've opened it? And, does this standard A/V-cable contain ALL of the wires all the way up to the audio/video-connectors?

Thank you for taking your time to answer my questions, Jameson  cool.gif
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I don't really remember how I opened the metal on mine. I think there might be some tips on that in this thread somewhere. The Jumpers are incredibly easy to find.

All of the MS A/V cables have only as many wires as they need. So, the standard cable has 6 wires - Video +/-, Audio L +/- and Audio R +/-.
gelberblitz
Hi

I'm more or less noob an got some questions.

First of all what i got:

xbox 1.0 (PAL) no modchip
Evox V+3935 running


I made a "VGA / HD" Cable with these 3 switches to select which mode.
I couldn't get the LM1881 chip so i used this manual and a 74HC14:
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Xbox_VGA_HO...al_sync_signals
to get the sync signals.


I don't have an HD TV but when I power on the xbox in HD mode i'm quite sure that everything works because the disc is workling and doning the normal accessing sounds (don't have sound connected yet).

i entered M$ Dash (blindly)

5 x down (evox entry for M$ dash)
A


2 x down (inside M$ dash)
A

3 x down
A

1 x down
A

1 x left
A



when i switch mode to VGA i get a "black" screen and the Hard Drive does not behave like normal.

any idear why this is?


does one of you know if the Evox V+3935 is able to do VGA

can i run VGA bios wihtout modchip?



thanks
Jameson42
First off, your xbox needs to be in NTSC. You can't get any HD modes until then. (and as such, you can't get VGA).

Second, you will need a VGA bios in order to use VGA. iND-BiOS 5001 VGA is the top choice of pretty much everyone who uses VGA and knows about it. Unless you're using a bootloader (there is a BFM version of iND-BiOS 5001 VGA), you'll prolly want a modchip, as VGA bioses only work with a VGA connection, nothing else.
fahrenheit
^ Actually Jameson42, I haven't tested component, but RGB SCART displays correctly when using a VGA BIOS. smile.gif
Jameson42
I know for a fact that component does not output correctly when a vga bios is installed, because vga bioses change what colors component outputs so that it works on vga. pretty sure s-vid won't work, and I know composite doesn't. Tested many times.
gelberblitz
hmm didn't want to buy such a modchip. sad.gif

do you know if the vga output would work in this Xebian linux thing without a special vga biso?

for me that would be enough because i doon't need the vga for playing.

I think i'll go on reading some more howtos & faqs the next days, and ask some more silly questuons in here biggrin.gif

Black_Scorpion
plizz help.

I have Samsung SyncMaster 710M LCD Monitor. It is have Sync On Green.
I read from http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Xbox_VGA_HOWTO If your monitor supports "Sync On Green" you're lucky - you just need a plain cable to connect your AVIP connector with your VGA monitor.
No additional electronic components are necessary. Is it mean I need only conect wires direct?
is it only 480p? huh.gif
Xlink-Kai
Yes, you won't have to use a LM1881N. Just use the diagram on the first page of this thread and forget the whole LM1881N thing. Just the six wires directly from the motherboard to the VGA connector. smile.gif
Black_Scorpion
Thanks!
I try it.
Xlink-Kai
This refers to the long post a couple of posts:

What is a 74HC14? smile.gif
Jameson42
the 74HC14 is a sync seperator. do a search in this thread, someone posted about it a few pages back.
Viscaria
Here is a relabeled version of the pinout pic on gamesx.com. This one is labeled to correspond to the motherboard pin numbering as used in Jared's diagrams. Hope someone finds it useful.

user posted image
kitejumping
bump, because im sick of searching for this thread when making the cable, and the search function is giving mysql errors ..lol
Xpuyo
Newbie question...

I have a projector that supports upto 1024x768 which leaves me with max of 480p mode.

I have a VGA box that accepts S-video and Composite input.

If I enabled 480p, would it still work with S-video out?

I am using EvoX dashboard, from readings, it said that 480p is enabled in it already. Does this mean that I can just wire the proper pins together and 480p mode would be on without me going into msdashboard?

thanx.
leeloo5
No, you can only get HD when you are using a component cable. s-video and composite cables wont let the xbox display in hd.

Does your projector support HD resolutions? if it does, you can buy an xbox component cable ($10), a RCA male to VGA male adapter ($7), and a RCA triple joiner ($3).

Then you can change the mode on your projector to YPbPr instead of RGB.

If you dont want to buy all those parts, you could solder together an adapter yourself.
Xpuyo
Even if I enabled 480p with the diagram from the beginning?

and i am using evox, which op said has things already are enabled... what does he mean?

Here is what I have.

Xbox with Evox.

projector with DVI, VGA , Svideo, composite input.

since the max res for it is 1024x768, highest mode I can achieve is 480p .

I dont have much $$ now and was wondering if I used wired trick to simulate HD av pack plugged in, would I be able to carry 480p through S-video?
sandman1687
it is impossible to carry a progressive signal over s-video. s-video gives a sharp 480i, but if you're looking for 480p, composite and vga are your only options. if your projector supports 1024x768, then 720p should work fine.
anvil82
I made a component cable today for my second xbox using my old original composite and analog audio cables, along with a female rca cable I had for the coaxial digital audio.

I even used cat5e cable because I cut the original cable too short, so I only used 1 foot of the original cable.

I can't tell the difference between the MS one either, looks the same.

Xpuyo
QUOTE(sandman1687 @ Aug 6 2005, 08:19 PM)
it is impossible to carry a progressive signal over s-video. s-video gives a sharp 480i, but if you're looking for 480p, composite and vga are your only options. if your projector supports 1024x768, then 720p should work fine.
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How is that possible when 720p's resolution is 1280x720?

if s-video can't carry progressive signal.. i guess my only choice (or at least better..) would be VGA cable.

leeloo5
If you have a projector that accepts HDTV signals (check the manual) and if it accepts the component signals but as the 15pin VGA style plug not the tripple RCA cables, like my digital projector, an option is to buy an xbox component cable, a three cable RCA joiner, and a male RCA to Male VGA adapter cable. You can then join the xbox cable and the adapter to plug into the projector (your projector will then be set to YPbPr on component mode.)

Cost:
$10 for the component xbox cable
$3 for the joiner
$7 for the adapter
total of $20


or you could similarly make a VGA adapter for you xbox if you buy the parts and solder it together, and use this like the above setup, or as a PC input on your projector or a PC monitor.

total price: about $20 if you already have a soldering iron.

check my sig for one of the many tutorials on making this cable.
kitejumping
has anyone made a diagram on how to make the cable with a vga extender (vga plug is male) and i know the wires of all the different pins on the vga side... and the xbox avip plug? I still have not found a diagram for it... all of them are either for plugs on the motherboard or female vga plugs so i can't figure it out... I have all the lm1881n pieces, just cant get the cable to work. The monitor I am trying to use it with is a 19" LCD without sync on green, that shouldnt be causing any problems right?
Jameson42
Many people have had problems with LCDs and xbox vga. Try it out with another monitor to test your connection.
kitejumping
should put that next to the diagram so people know it likely wont work with big lcd monitors, i wouldn't have wasted the money and time on the cable if i knew ahead of time there was no way to get it to work.
grimlock
QUOTE(sandman1687 @ Aug 6 2005, 08:19 PM)
it is impossible to carry a progressive signal over s-video. s-video gives a sharp 480i, but if you're looking for 480p, composite and vga are your only options. if your projector supports 1024x768, then 720p should work fine.
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That would be component and VGA.
grimlock
QUOTE(leeloo5 @ Aug 7 2005, 04:22 AM)
Cost: 
$10 for the component xbox cable
$3 for the joiner
$7 for the adapter
total of $20
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Where would you go about findind these in the above prices? (Perticularly the xbox component cable, the others are generally cheap...). I'm assuming you don't mean the MS HDTV pack?
Xpuyo
QUOTE(grimlock @ Aug 11 2005, 08:18 PM)
Where would you go about findind these in the above prices? (Perticularly the xbox component cable, the others are generally cheap...). I'm assuming you don't mean the MS HDTV pack?
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this would require that the prjoector/LCD/monitor im going to use must have sync on green feature. correct?

how can I find out? manufacturer's manual does not specify it..
leeloo5
QUOTE(grimlock @ Aug 11 2005, 03:18 PM)
Where would you go about findind these in the above prices? (Perticularly the xbox component cable, the others are generally cheap...). I'm assuming you don't mean the MS HDTV pack?
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right, its not the MS HDTV pack. just go into a gamestop or ebgames or whatever and find a used component xbox av cable, they should be about $10 third party. Or you could buy one on ebay for about $8-$11
leeloo5
QUOTE(Xpuyo @ Aug 13 2005, 06:14 PM)
this would require that the prjoector/LCD/monitor im going to use must have sync on green feature. correct?

how can I find out? manufacturer's manual does not specify it..
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If you want to just make the joiner without using an LM1881 chip then yes, you will need a SOG monitor. you can check if yours is at http://playstation2-linux.com/sog.php

however, i'm assuming all projectors can deal with SOG since thats the format theyd recieve from component input, so if you have a projector you're fine. Otherwise check that out.
JaredC01
*pokes head in*

Looks like everything is going alright. If anyone has any questions, feel free to post them.
dynamike1
Hey,
I have a crappy tv and I made a vga output on my box so I could enjoy some HD.
I installed the Ind 5001 Vga bios, and it boots nicely on my crappy tv.
But then, the tut on the front page says:

You must turn the xbox on in High Def A/V Mode with a normal TV (or HDTV) hooked up, turn on Progressive Scan Mode (480p) in the MS Dashboard, turn the xbox off, enable VGA Mode with you VGA Monitor hooked up, and turn on your XBox.

But the problem is the first part: I canīt get into High Def Mode because when I set the switches 2 and 3 to on and plug in my usual (standard) cable, switch on also gets switched on. So I cant get into High Def blink.gif
How do I switch to 480p on my crappy tv, to get some image on my VGA monitor?
Or do I need to find out how to do it blindly? If so, does anybody know the code?
Is it essential to switch to 480p to get image on a vga monitor?
JaredC01
QUOTE(dynamike1 @ Aug 29 2005, 11:59 AM)
Hey,
I have a crappy tv and I made a vga output on my box so I could enjoy some HD.
I installed the Ind 5001 Vga bios, and it boots nicely on my crappy tv.
But then, the tut on the front page says:

You must turn the xbox on in High Def A/V Mode with a normal TV (or HDTV) hooked up, turn on Progressive Scan Mode (480p) in the MS Dashboard, turn the xbox off, enable VGA Mode with you VGA Monitor hooked up, and turn on your XBox.

But the problem is the first part: I canīt get into High Def Mode because when I set the switches 2 and 3 to on and plug in my usual (standard) cable, switch on also gets switched on. So I cant get into High Def  blink.gif
How do I switch to 480p on my crappy tv, to get some image on my VGA monitor?
Or do I need to find out how to do it blindly? If so, does anybody know the code?
Is it essential to switch to 480p to get image on a vga monitor?
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You MUST have 480p mode enabled. Monitors will not support 480i mode. Here's the method to blindly setting 480p mode. This was posted back towards the beginning of the thread too.

CODE
To set 480p blindly in the XBox Dash:

Down
Down
A

Pause 1 Second

Down
Down
Down
A

Pause 1 Second

Down
A

Pause 1 Second

Left
A

Restart your XBox, and you should be in 480p.
The Zep Man
QUOTE(JaredC01 @ Sep 1 2005, 07:19 PM)
You MUST have 480p mode enabled.  Monitors will not support 480i mode.  Here's the method to blindly setting 480p mode.  This was posted back towards the beginning of the thread too.

(...)
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I assume you mean MOST monitors... *looks at his 21" CRT-monster, which can output interlaced resolutions... even 480i*
JaredC01
QUOTE(The Zep Man @ Sep 2 2005, 01:25 AM)
I assume you mean MOST monitors... *looks at his 21" CRT-monster, which can output interlaced resolutions... even 480i*
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I have yet to see a monitor in person that can output 480i. I don't doubt you, but I haven't seen it with my own eyes.
dynamike1
I have my 2 0.1ĩF capacitors, 680kO resistor, and one LM1881 chip. But how do i place the capacitors? Polarity? I guess it does matter because they have one long and one short leg? I dont see any signs in the circuit on page 1...
grimlock
If you've bought electrolytic capacitors, chances are they are polar. Usually the longer leg is the anode (positive), but almost always the polarity is marked on the capacitor as well. Hint: look for a small minus sign near the short leg.
dynamike1
Hooray, my vga circuit is working. The only thing is: The image is has a green tint.
Yes...I have the Ind VGA junkeymonkey bios installed, I even reflashed it, but still green. I run in HD (2+3) Mode on a v1.0 box with x2.6ce.

Do I have a bad bios or something? What can I try to make it work?
Do I need to use the bfm version of the bios? Because I am now using the not-bfm.
grimlock
QUOTE
Do I need to use the bfm version of the bios? Because I am now using the not-bfm.
Whatever you do, don't use the bfm version... It stands for Boot From Media, and it's not meant to be flashed on a modchip.
Other than that, I know that the green tint is a common problem (there are a couple of current threads with people having the same problem actually), but sorry -no suggestions here.
I prefer my YPbPr output fed to a component to VGA adapter -no conversion there tongue.gif
JaredC01
QUOTE(grimlock @ Sep 3 2005, 02:37 PM)
Whatever you do, don't use the bfm version... It stands for Boot From Media, and it's not meant to be flashed on a modchip.
Other than that, I know that the green tint is a common problem (there are a couple of current threads with people having the same problem actually), but sorry -no suggestions here.
I prefer my YPbPr output fed to a component to VGA adapter -no conversion there  tongue.gif
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From what I've heard, XBMC fixes a lot of the green hue problems.

As for the Y/Pb/Pr output, it's usually only projectors that can handle that (High Def signal through VGA)...
dynamike1
I tryed two rather new Dell monitors in my home and they have green tint when i connect. I then borrowed a kinda old monitor from a friend of mine, result: perfect colors! So the problem really lies with yout monitors sometimes...
Xlink-Kai
QUOTE(JaredC01 @ Sep 1 2005, 07:19 PM)
You MUST have 480p mode enabled.  Monitors will not support 480i mode.  Here's the method to blindly setting 480p mode.  This was posted back towards the beginning of the thread too.

CODE
To set 480p blindly in the XBox Dash:

Down
Down
A

Pause 1 Second

Down
Down
Down
A

Pause 1 Second

Down
A

Pause 1 Second

Left
A

Restart your XBox, and you should be in 480p.

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Could you post this for Avalaunch too?
grimlock
QUOTE(Xlink-Kai @ Sep 22 2005, 05:00 PM)
Could you post this for Avalaunch too?
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AFAIK, you *have* to do this in the MS dash. I assume you have an option to boot to the MS dash from your Avalaunch...
Just precede the previous sequence with the keystrokes necessary to boot the MS dash.

For example, in my Evox, it's the 4th option from the top in the main menu, so it's:
Down
Down
Down
A
sandman1687
no, avalaunch has the ability to write to eeprom, so its possible. as for the button pattern, i have no idea, as i don't use ava.
Xlink-Kai
I got it already biggrin.gif

HDTV is amazing btw laugh.gif
xp-power
how would i get 5.1 if it is posable my surround goes by 3 minijack plugs
anyhelp heres a pic so how would i make this
user posted image
Xlink-Kai
It's not possible to get surround out of that kind of connector. If you hook that up you'll just get stereo sound out of the front and rear speakers.
xp-power
damm okay thanks anyway
aeqvist
QUOTE(JaredC01 @ Aug 14 2005, 07:33 PM)
*pokes head in*

Looks like everything is going alright.  If anyone has any questions, feel free to post them.
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Hello, I'm not so good at this but I have some questions.

1: do you have to solder on the motherboard if you want to do this?
2: if 1: YES then: Isn't that pretty hard to do? I have soldered before but I don't want to do anything so my xbox don't work afterwards.
3: how you get RGB, RGB you get out of a scart but I dont see a scart on the diagram? or can u have a RGB cable in the video output anyway?

(sorry if my english is bad, i'm swedish)
JaredC01
QUOTE(aeqvist @ Oct 8 2005, 10:09 AM)
Hello, I'm not so good at this but I have some questions.

1: do you have to solder on the motherboard if you want to do this?
2: if 1: YES then: Isn't that pretty hard to do? I have soldered before but I don't    want to do anything so my xbox don't work afterwards.
3: how you get RGB, RGB you get out of a scart but I dont see a scart on the diagram? or can u have a RGB cable in the video output anyway?

(sorry if my english is bad, i'm swedish)
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1. You DO have to solder onto the motherboard in order to get this mod to work. I'm thinking about developing a solderless adapter that you simply screw on, but That's still in the development phase.

2. It's not THAT hard to do if you have the soldering skills. The points to solder to are quite small, and in a confined area, but it's possible to do (I've done it quite a few times myself... probably 11 or 12).

3. RGB is the same thing as component here in the U.S. Using the same jacks, however, it is also possible to get Y/Pb/Pr, which is High Definition. There is a scart diagram done by someone else early in the topic... If you search around for it, you can probably find it.
aeqvist
QUOTE(JaredC01 @ Oct 11 2005, 08:47 PM)
1. You DO have to solder onto the motherboard in order to get this mod to work.  I'm thinking about developing a solderless adapter that you simply screw on, but That's still in the development phase.

2. It's not THAT hard to do if you have the soldering skills.  The points to solder to are quite small, and in a confined area, but it's possible to do (I've done it quite a few times myself... probably 11 or 12).

3. RGB is the same thing as component here in the U.S.  Using the same jacks, however, it is also possible to get Y/Pb/Pr, which is High Definition.  There is a scart diagram done by someone else early in the topic...  If you search around for it, you can probably find it.
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OK! sounds great!, thanks for your help!
think I got the hang of it now smile.gif Also really great diagram! can't miss anything with that paintskills! wink.gif

h4xx3d
hey, i would like to make a vga cable, with optical [toslink] output, how would i go about doing this? i do have an official advanced av pack [the s-video one] which i would be willing to sacrafice. any help would be greatly appreciated. im just asking because from the diagrams, it appears as though both the vga cable and toslink output use one of the same points
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