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manichispanic
i know they sell 6ft exentions everywhere, but how long is too long for the controller? Im going to need about 18 - 24 feet? Anyone foresee any problems?
SICKdimension
Could be a problem since it's just USB. Try it first, and if there is a problem, they sell things that boost USB distance like another 50' or somethin.
BigDaddyShoo
24 feet?! You must have a big ass TV wink.gif
GoukiX
QUOTE (manichispanic @ Sep 15 2004, 02:56 AM)
i know they sell 6ft exentions everywhere, but how long is too long for the controller? Im going to need about 18 - 24 feet? Anyone foresee any problems?

i think i read about this somewhere else but cant remember where exactly... good luck and keep us informed because i wanna be able to play on my new projector soon. lurk.gif
SICKdimension
How far do wireless controllers reach? I don't know, but that could be a solution.
whatsup3k
I heard the wireless controllers go up to 35 feet
Dagoth
USB cables have a problem over 5 metres (15 feet) unless you use a repeater / extender.

(the xbox controllers are USB, so I would say that you should be able to extend them to the 15 foot range - buy 2 extenders and see if it works)
manichispanic
thanks guys, I was hoping to not buy a new set of wireless controllers, so I'll look into getting a repeater or something.

Also, does anyone know if its USB 1.1 or 2.0 in the xbox, or would that even matter?

edit: i found this thing http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...6707736959&rd=1 but if i;m not sure whether they'll be a delay when I press a button on the controller?
SICKdimension
By the time you buy the repeaters, and wire, and splice them together to have the really long wires, you might be better off just selling your controllers and buying wireless ones.
robwoods
I use a wireless controller from about 12ft, Its fine for xbmc etc, but a bit laggy for games like burnout 3, The logitech wireless is supposed to be very good though...
manichispanic
anyone have a linksys wireless controller?
ds3161
I'm doing the same thing and don't have option of using wireless (already have far too many wireless devices and the xbox is in a different room BEHIND me). I need to know if anyone has used a repeater and adapters to extend the length of the controllers. Using two xbox controller extenders doesn't work because it exceeds the max USB cable length. I tried it and get intermittent "diconnects" when playing games.

Plus any wireless controllers that support xbox live headsets are very expensive...

Anyone ever try repeaters?
Hibashira
If the problem is the distance between where you sit and where the equipments are, why not extend it the other way. Keep the Xbox close to where you sit and extend the audio/video feed. There are tons of AV signal booster that can handle much longer than 24 ft.
ds3161
2 reasons:

1) The cost of the quality cables (1 component and 1 toslink) I use in my system over than length would cost almost as much as 4 wireless controllers. At the least, 4 repeater cables ($10 each) and 8 USB adapters (max $13 each) would be a wash in cost.

2) Asthetics. This is in a dedicated home cinema and having an xbox sitting in the room is not desired.

I currently run the controllers through a 2" conduit I have running through my seating riser to the equipment room, but it is too long.

Just wondered if anyone had used a USB repeater to increase the length. I did read that you cannot use a USB hub to extend the length because the controller already contains an internal USB hub (controller, memory slot, memory slot) and it doesn't work correctly if chained with another hub.
AlTheKiller
this should be helpful.
Hibashira
Actually, USB spec does allow hub chaining. But they should be treated as full speed devices so the cable length between hubs should be less than 5 meters (16ft.). To span 24ft., you'll need at least 1 if not 2.

Of course, this will definately increase the latency. Not sure if that's tolerable for a game controller.

Anyway, good luck on it and let us know how it turns out.
ds3161
I think the limitation of USB have been covered in this thread. What we need to know if if anyone has actually DONE it or not with repeaters as we already know:

1) USB hubs won't work
2) multiple extenders don't work well (works with 2, but with occasional errors)
3) wireless won't work in some instances (RF interference, distance, cost of Live headset options)

That leaves 2 options. Extend the AV cables or USB repeaters.
ds3161
As to the hub chaining, I read it will not work here:
http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xbox_Linux_USB_HOWTO

"If you want to play Xbox games with the XPAD, you cannot connect it through an USB hub! The standard Xbox BIOS is only able to handle one chained USB hub, but the XPAD itself has already a hub built in, so this would be the second in a chain. "
Zimmerz
I have a logitech wireless controller, and i must say its the best wireless controller ive ever had. i can go clear to the other end of the house and it still works perfectly. In fact, i ran some coax from my tv to the tv in the kitchen, and i leave the box in my room, and play xbox clear in the kitchen!
ds3161
And how well does the XBox Live Headset work with that...

As I said before, I already have other devices (currently 3) that contribute a significant amount of RF interferance in my equipment room I'd prefer not to add 4 more.

Sorry, don't mean to sound harsh, just frustrated.
Zimmerz
I cant play live, all we have available here is dialup and sattelite. sattelite is way overpriced so fuck that.
electrode
I have just tried using a usb repeater to extend the length. The controller works great with XBMC but doesn't work with games sad.gif

Back to the drawing board for me lol

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