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PistolPete
My v1.0 Xbox is fragging then red/green red/green.... It has never been opened. I have read many posts on fragging and ppl say that it means it can't read the bios. Is it possible my bios could have been wiped? I can't see how if i haven't tampered with it. If it is still there then could it be a broken link to the bios?

Can anyone help? If anyone could send a pic of where the bios is. I'm thinking of opening it up to check for broken links.

Or if you have any other suggestions i would really appriciate it.
Trevante
It's more likely that your eeprom is corrupt. The TSOP (holds the bios) isn't rewritable unless you open it and solder some points together.
PistolPete
How could it be corrupt if i haven't opened it? Is that possible?

If i solder some points together, would i be able to flash the original bios back in?

Can anyone show me where the eeprom is and what does TSOP stand for?
Perplexer
Your BIOS is not at fault. It is possible your EEPROM is corrupt, but you generally get a different color flashing LED when that happens.

Your Xbox may have just died from old age. Probably the MCPX (not replaceable).

It couldn't hurt to open up your Xbox and unplug then reseat all the cables.
PistolPete
The only reason i haven't opened it up is because i know MS won't touch it if i do. I'ts a bit of a gamble really, if i do open it up there could be no way of fixing it at all.

It's probably only worth me opening it up if i know what the problem could be. Thats why i'm on here.

So. When the EEPROM is currupt, you normally get an orange flash? There is definatly no orange. Just green & red.

Can anyone tell me what the EEPROM is/does?
PistolPete
If the EEPROM is currupt. How do i fix it?
Trevante
You'd either need a 4th gen chip that can restore eeprom's, or a bios (Evox M7) with an embedded eeprom.

Also, if your warranty is expired, then chances are MS will charge you 100 dollars to fix it anyways.
PistolPete
I'm in the UK. Don't know what the charge could be.

Do you think installing a chip would solve my problem? If so, how?
PistolPete
Can anyone help? unsure.gif
Perplexer
It's probably not the EEPROM; I still think your Xbox died of old age. Since you're in the UK, and a "warranty" repair will cost you about $100 anyway, just open up the box and check the cables.

If it's not fixable, you can sell the parts individually. About $25 for the case, $30-50 for the DVD drive, and $20 for the motherboard and hard drive. Then just pony up an additional $50 and you have enough for a brand new Xbox.
PistolPete
Can i get it to work with a chip with eeprom on it? What chip is this?
Trevante
QUOTE (Perplexer @ Oct 25 2004, 09:17 PM)
It's probably not the EEPROM; I still think your Xbox died of old age. Since you're in the UK, and a "warranty" repair will cost you about $100 anyway, just open up the box and check the cables.

If it's not fixable, you can sell the parts individually. About $25 for the case, $30-50 for the DVD drive, and $20 for the motherboard and hard drive. Then just pony up an additional $50 and you have enough for a brand new Xbox.

20 for the mobo and harddrive? I've seen them on ebay for like 50 dollars or more. You could make up to 100 dollars if you played your cards right...

As far as a chip, well I can't guarantee it'll fix your box, but I'd recommend a Xenium ICE.
PistolPete
Thanks for the advice Trevante. wink.gif I think Perplexer just wants me to sell the parts to him for cheap. mad.gif MS said they'd charge me £78 to fix it (includes post & packing). They said if they can't fix it, they'd send me a brand new one.

It costs £100 for a brand spanker from the shops.

Would you gamble by opening it? or would you pay £78 for a garenteed working Xbox?
Perplexer
QUOTE (PistolPete @ Oct 26 2004, 04:15 PM)
I think Perplexer just wants me to sell the parts to him for cheap. mad.gif

I think not. Did I ask or offer to buy ANYTHING from you? Shipping to the USA would be way too expensive anyway.

I'm just trying to give you some advice, but take it however you like. Realistically, you'll get $20 for a nonworking mobo. You might get more, but I was being conservative in the pricing.

It's been three days; grow some grapes and make a decision. We can't do it for you.
PistolPete
I'll never know if the mobo is working or not. I'll probably send it to MS
darkplayer
go ahead and send it in for £78, if they (M$) can't fix it they'll give you a free Xbox. Go for it, save yourself the headache.
PistolPete
I decided to open it. I bought a smartxx chip. Didn't do anything. what a waste!

I bought my girlfriends box which worked fine till i opened it and tryed to put the smartxx chip in. Couldn't get it in. Doesn't work at all now. keeps fragging. think i've got solder under the chip above the D0 point.

Can anyone help?

thanks

ps how do i add pictures here?
darkplayer
Hey pistolpete, I just left some answers for you @ your other thread. Check it out.
PistolPete
Thanks for my answers darkplayer.

I have decided to try n mod my girlfriends xbox as hers works. In doing so, i messed up big time.

Do you know what that chip is above the D0 point?

I got solder between the tiny pins. Having trouble trying to get it out. Having failed installing the smartxx chip. The machine now frags with no chip. I think the stuck solder is causing it to frag.

I was wondering if i was to install the mod chip regardless of the machine fragging. Would the mod chip bypass the one that has solder stuck between it?

Help is much appriciated.

I'd like to add a pic of this to show you what i mean, if i knew how.
darkplayer
Aw man, you managed to get solder around a chip ohmy.gif Email a pic to me, I'll send a PM with my email.

Talk to Zodiiak and hope he can help, I hope you're in the states tongue.gif
FallsInc
ick. hes in the uk. did he splash solder all over the ram?

luckily for me (or unluckily, depending on how you see it) all my solder splashes have landed on my skin. one about 1cm from my eye.... sad.gif
PistolPete
Here is the pic.

I have attemted to get some out using a pin and soldering iron.. I think i may have skratched a trace if you can see the scratch.

user posted image
darkplayer
QUOTE (FallsInc @ Nov 6 2004, 10:21 AM)
ick. hes in the uk. did he splash solder all over the ram?

luckily for me (or unluckily, depending on how you see it) all my solder splashes have landed on my skin. one about 1cm from my eye.... sad.gif

laugh.gif rotfl.gif

Try using a magnifying glass/or glasses to get a better view of solder between the pins. Just a little solder can screw up the whole system.
PistolPete
Oh well! My 2nd Xbox is well and truely fucked!

Tried to get the solder out of the TSOP pins with desolder braid and broke one of the pins.

I had the Smartxx chip in with red & blue light on but it still fragged. I though the smartxx chip would use its own TSOP.

There is no way of fixing it now. I give in after buying:- a second hand Xbox, soldering iron,solder adaptors, solder, desolder braid, flux, conductive pen, Smartxx chip. Oh, and loads of time and stress.

Total cost not including first broken Xbox (which wasn't my fault) = £150

What a total waste. If only you knew how pissed off i am. grr.gif

Thank you for your help anyway.

I'm sure i'll be back when i mess up my next Xbox.
darkplayer
Oh...I just read your email, ohmy.gif , you need skillz to fix that. Might as well sell it off and let someone slavage the board for parts. I feel your pain. sad.gif

Just sell off your non-working MB/HDD as a combo & buy another working MB/HDD. Make sure the new MB/HDD is compatible w/ your power supply. wink.gif

"He who never made a mistake, had never made a discovery."
bjwoodruff
should of used the do point down at the bottom of the box, its much easier and bigger. do give up, on my box i messed up my softmod, burnt my mobo, bought a new mobo with no matching hd, bought an x3 and had to pull out my old eeprom and swap them, and after all of this my harddrive crapped out destroying my eeprom, but i had everything backed up so the joke it on them lol. my box will never destroy me hahahahah.

bj
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