holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 06:48 AM
Hey guys, heres the deal i attempted the controller power mod these are steps i took. ok i soldered a wire to the yellow wire on controller port #1 and soldered the end of it to the (if you are looking at the back of the p/e board) bottom left leg for the momentary switch for the power button. after that i went to my controller. i drilled a hole for the momentary switch. After that i took out the yellow wire that is connected to the controller, and solder another wire to that so that it would be long enough to connect to the switch. once i did that i soldered it to one of the two legs on the momentary switch. Then i took out the controller board and soldered a wire to the 5v and then connected it to the momentary switch. The controller closed fine, no wires got disconnected, but i cant power the xbox on with the momentary switch on my controller or the power button on the xbox itself. the only way i can turn it on is by pressing the eject button. Please help
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:03 AM
anyone???
eminvil_12
Nov 7 2004, 07:04 AM
are you sure its a momentary push button, and are you sure its not shorting out anywhere.
and you soldered to the bottom of one of the four points
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:06 AM
it is a momentary switch. i looked over everything and couldn't find anything that would case it to short out, but that is most likely the problem but i couldn't find anything, and yes i soldered it to one of the bottom points
eminvil_12
Nov 7 2004, 07:09 AM
take the controller out and then try turning the xbox on
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:16 AM
ok this is really wierd now when i plug in the power cable into the xbox it automatically boots up the xbox and i can't turn it off until i unplug the power cable.
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:18 AM
ok i just tried it again and plugged in the power cable, itbooted up then it turned off by itself in 2 mins. its like what happens when you don't a have the hdd plugged in, but mine is
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:18 AM
Sounds like you have the wrong switch or the solder is shorting something somewhere...
eminvil_12
Nov 7 2004, 07:18 AM
post a few picks
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:21 AM
Also, it doenst matter what side of the momentary push button switch legs go to what point... as long as one is to a black wire for ground, and the other is to the yellow wire.....
Than from the yellow wire, in the xbox itself, you have to solder to the 2nd little thing up from the bottom.....
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:23 AM
this is the switch i am using that i bought from radioshack
eminvil_12
Nov 7 2004, 07:24 AM
no u dont solder to one of the top two points, you solder two one of the bottom two, i soldered mine to the bottom right point of the 4.
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:24 AM
Thats the right one... same one I was using..... dbl check your connections on the P/E pcb......
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:25 AM
i soldered mine to the bottom left point of the 4
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:26 AM
all right i'm gonna have to do that
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:26 AM
| QUOTE (eminvil_12 @ Nov 7 2004, 02:27 AM) |
| no u dont solder to one of the top two points, you solder two one of the bottom two, i soldered mine to the bottom right point of the 4. |
Re-read my post.....
| QUOTE |
| 2nd little thing up from the bottom..... |
eminvil_12
Nov 7 2004, 07:27 AM
yeh thats a momentary push butoon, so thats fine.
go back and check all of the soldering and wiring, and dont solder to one of the top two points like emc said. try just taping the yellow wire to the bottom right point on the power board, just to see if it works that way.
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:32 AM
| QUOTE (eminvil_12 @ Nov 7 2004, 02:30 AM) |
yeh thats a momentary push butoon, so thats fine. go back and check all of the soldering and wiring, and dont solder to one of the top two points like emc said. try just taping the yellow wire to the bottom right point on the power board, just to see if it works that way. |
Hey, dumbass re-read my post... 2nd ONE UP FROM THE BOTTOM....
2--2nd ONE UP....
1--BOTTOM POINT...
dipshit....
Heres a pic btw....

low qual.. all i have is my camera phone...
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:33 AM
wow its hard casue you guys are saying 2 different things
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:34 AM
oh ok, i'll check my connections and if it still doesn't work i'll try that. thanks for the pic
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:34 AM
Im telling you... it is the 2nd nub UP FROM THE VERY BOTTOM ONE... I have done more of these than I can count...
Trust me....
Ill even hunt down the damn tut for ya....
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:35 AM
its ok man you don't need to do that thanks.
Emc1683
Nov 7 2004, 07:38 AM
Well I cant find the one I used to use anhow.... but here is a pic of the front side of the PCB....

you need to tap into the #2.....
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 07:39 AM
i find it alot easier to solder it to one of the yellow wires that is going into the mobo from the switch. all i had to do was melt sum of the wire with a soldering gun, that way u can still take off ur front panel easily, i think its the bottom left hand wire, if your looking at the xbox from the front top view. You might wana double check on that one.
edit: in the time it took me to type this somebody posted a picture of the wireing use that
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:43 AM
all right
eminvil_12
Nov 7 2004, 07:47 AM
emc. SHUT UP. i have done this mod uncountable times before aswell. i solder to the bottom right point of the set of four points are where the power button is on the pcb. i dont solder to the line second of them the line of points.
in your pic you can see four points on the bottom of the pcb, i solder to the bottom right one, and have done numerous times, so stop saying your way is the only way. theres other ways than yours.
idiot
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 07:54 AM
i will try both of them
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:06 AM
if at first u dont succeed try try again lol, my way isnt the only way either but i think its the best cuz its the easiest to access the front panel without having to desolder the wire and stuff, i guess its personal preference
Mjkthirdeye
Nov 7 2004, 08:09 AM
Is your momentary switch a normally open or normally closed? It needs to be normally open. And I bet thats what the problem is. So both EMC and Eminevil shut up cuz i got you both owned...
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:13 AM
Mjkthirdeye i don't understand what you are trying to say
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:17 AM
i was thinking that ealier but i was like im sure these ppl know the differences between the switches, but maybe I stand corrected. The difference is that one switch always allows current to flow throught it so that wut be Normally closed (i think) because the cirtcut its closed, and then when u push the button current momentarly (spelling) is cut off. and vise versa
Mjkthirdeye
Nov 7 2004, 08:20 AM
Momentary switches come in two states. Normally Open, and Normally Closed. You want normally open, because when you push the button it closes the circuit and it grounds it out. But if you have normally closed it is always closed until you push the button to break the circuit. Meaning its always grounded which is why you could not turn it off by the front panel on button, and only pulling the cord. I bet you bought a Normally closed switch. Radioshack makes the exact same looking switch for both NO and NC.
Then I also threw in a little shout out to EMC and Eminvil for not pointing that out.
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:23 AM
try holding your switch down though the whole process of booting and everything, then let go and see if your xbox turns off, if it does, then you got the wrong switch
Mjkthirdeye
Nov 7 2004, 08:25 AM
| QUOTE (lunatic0222 @ Nov 7 2004, 03:26 AM) |
| try holding your switch down though the whole process of booting and everything, then let go and see if your xbox turns off, if it does, then you got the wrong switch |
Bingo... Lunatics got it all figured out.
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:29 AM
see what a grade 11 electronics class teaches you lol
edit: acutally i learnt that in grade nine
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:30 AM
k i tried that and nothing happens, and after a minuite my xbox turns off by itself

so do i want a normally closed or open switch?
Mjkthirdeye
Nov 7 2004, 08:31 AM
Heh Also if you still have the box the switch came in tell me the radioshack part number and I can tell you if it is NO or NC.
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:31 AM
normally OPEN
Mjkthirdeye
Nov 7 2004, 08:32 AM
Normally Open is what you want
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:32 AM
all right i'll be back in 10 i gotta go down to the garage where i do all of my work, and all my parts are down there
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:36 AM
post some pictures of all ur soldering so we can see if maybe u fugged that up
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:45 AM
sorry 275-1547
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:48 AM
ok these are normally open momentary switches
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:51 AM
ok i just check out the controller part of this mod and all of the soldering is fine. it has to be the p/e board
Mjkthirdeye
Nov 7 2004, 08:52 AM
Yeah those are the NO part number. hmm can you take some pics so we can see your soldering?
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 08:54 AM
the thing is if ur xbox is turning off by itself i think it wud be shorting out maybe try bending the leads of the pushbutton to the side
holyfrickster07
Nov 7 2004, 08:57 AM
camera is dead, the cotroller soldering is good, i'm checking the p/e board right now
lunatic0222
Nov 7 2004, 09:02 AM
controller soldering might be good, but it can still be shorting out if ur leads of ur pushbutton hit the circuit board on the controller
arsenalrule
Nov 7 2004, 09:14 AM
just curious...with the momentary switches.....does the amp power and VAC make a difference?
arsenalrule
Nov 7 2004, 09:17 AM
any pics/tutorial for the S controller...im trying to do this but a bit confused
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