My replacement drive arrived today

I'm gonna start looking for the signals later on tonight.

Fingers crossed we get this wrapped up in the next week or two

I'll keep you updated.

Val

Hi all,

Have the new drive attached to the PC, can see and use the drive in DOS but cannot run the EXE under DOS, can run the EXE under DOS prompt in Windows but cannot see the drive through Windows.

Can any one assist.

Thanks.

I bet there is something in the firmware that makes it not show up in windows. I am looking into a dos version of the extractor. When I get a reply I will post again.

Leave the xbox powered off until the pc has booted up into windows then turn your xbox on, your pc will prob recognise it then.

I have been looking for the Z signal all night, so far the only thing that comes close is a point that reads 0.4v with no cd in & 0v with cd in, I'm not sure if we can do anything with the 0.4v we might be able to use a nand gate to help boost the signal but then again maybe not...

Booted Windows first then turned on the drive, still no recognition.

Antthing else i can try?

@speckles - which version of dos are you using? does the exe not run at all in dos or do you receive an error? what is the error? if the exe does not give you an error, i recommend trying to run it again with a help flag(like "dwld8163.exe /?" or maybe "dwld8163.exe ?").

if it still will not work for you, we can still hope the program will work properly for kbarton77. he said he would have some results within the next couple of hours.


EDIT @SPECKLES - it could also be a connection error since your dvd drive is probably set as a slave - try the ide cable at both positions.

EXE says cannot run in DOS mode, have tried the drive as Master and Slave.

you need a dos boot disk to use the program in *pure dos*

dos mode is not the same thing

The program wasn't designed to work in dos. It was designed to work in the windows dos prompt. It will not work without being run within windows.

my bad - i guess i read the instructions incorrectly!!

however, that is kind of a bummer for me because i already prepared the boot disk and thought i was fully prepared for tomorrow.

i cannot test the program and dvd drive myself until tomorrow, but i went ahead and executed the program from my home pc in the dos window. i cannot connect the drive to this pc, but the program did execute properly. i assume some have already done this, but for speckles sake here is what i typed and the results i received.

---------------------------------------------------------
c:\temp>dwld8163.exe
LG GDR-8163B Download Tool, Ver. 0.02

Scanning CD/DVD Drives...

ERROR: Unable to locate any GDR-8163B drives
---------------------------------------------------------

i will test it tomorrow myself since i came up with a plausible excuse to get out of the house already and since i am looking forward to playing ghost recon 2 in a dark conference room sitting in an aeron chair with the projector and led's my only light source and 5.1 audio pounding through the hallways.

so if the drive cant be recognised under windows, and the program only works in windows (dos window) then how is this going to work?

I got the xbox, opened the case and DOH!!! It was the sdg 605f I must have been retarded when I modded the box sorry I can't do it!!! If I come across another drive I will try, if sticky_bud is not succesful first.

Good luck "buddy"

Kbarton

We are trying to get a dos version of the program made. I sent pm's to people who I sent the other software to. They have the e-mail address of the guy who is going to make the extractor for us. He will e-mail the new software directly to them.

maybe an xbe would work better for our purposes? like i said, i will test it myself today anyways...

Any luck sticky bud? Did it work out for you?

Anyone send an e-mail to the address I pm'ed you and get a reply? Have they sent you a dos version? If you don't know what I am talking about ignore me please.

i tried booting the pc with hitachi-lg drive connected via ide cable and powered by xbox. i attempted at least 10 different combinations of cable position and software including windows xp plus three different flavors of dos. the dvd drive was not recognized by any of them and of course, that means the program would not work either. i think converting the app i used today to a dos app will be of no use since the pc cannot recognize the drive. maybe linux will boot the drive, but i did not attempt that.

stay green!!

Anyone try running this prog in windows 98/Me?

Heres one
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...ssPageName=WDVW

.......and they want 100 Aussie dollars for it.

Someone mentioned this before, but what about making a xbe? I think it was sticky bud that said it, but not sure. Is there a way we could compile the source code to and xbe. Or is someone getting this program from some where else?

LenteSubigo the guys your get the program from did they write the code them self's or did they get it from some where? If they have the source code we could (with some changes) make it into a bootable xbe.

I'm pretty sure it could be done, but I don't have the xbox programing skills (not to mention the setup yet, SDK and MS VB) to be able to pull that off!

KBarton

sounds like what happened when I tried a thomson on my x86, win2K wouldn't recognize it, and linux gave a "could not open" error. maybe linux with WINE?

My thomson worked fine under Linux, even booted Knoppix off it. It like the HL and Philips wasn't seen under windows. I think they are set to Cable Select, as my compaq BIOS could see it and boot off it as a Master. Try adding a spare hard drive or something as master on the same bus as the CD drive.

just replying once more to verify that my tests included a win98 boot disk, an ms-dos(i think is the same as win98) boot disk, a pc-dos boot disk and a ghost disk with c-dos(i call it c-dos because i cant remember the name which starts with a c).

if it is possible to port the code simply, i think an xbe is the best bet since we know the drive works in the xbox, but my skills do not include this kind of thing.

stay green!

The guys I got the original program from are working on a dos version of the firmware extractor. I can promise that they won't want to give out any source code even if they have it. I guess we just have to wait until they give someone the new version of the extractor so we can get a copy of the firmware. Anyone who has a gdr-8163b can help find the signals though!

this maybe usless but what if you run that programe on the xbox under linux with winex just my 2 cent's

well i think well just have to wait for a dos version, but i think it would be easier to convert it into a xbe file. but they probably dont have teh equiptment to do that do they?

anybody know what production line these boxes with the HL data drives are coming off of? If you have one of these drives in your box please post your serial

thanks

how the hell does a dvd-rom drive look like shit u nub

I have a Lg 8163 DVD-ROM and i want to find the x,y,z and w signals. anyone can help me with the values of this points??

I think this is the most importan, the signals.

Sorry for my english.

Find: Ready signal, Eject signal, Tray IN and Tray OUT signals
Ready: 5 volts w/o CD, 0 volts w CD
Eject: needs to be between 3.5 and 5 volts
Tray IN: 5v with tray in, 0v w tray out
Tray OUT: 0v with tray in, 5V with tray out.

I took these values from here so they should be correct.

i dont have a xbox with a LG dvd, but i have a LG 8163 dvd-rom for PC.

i find some signals... but can anyone verify???

My Signals

sorry for my english, i'm from spain...

Your english is fine. You only had one mistake, very good for a second language!

Your only mistake was "i find" should have been I found.


Anyone conferm these signals? Is this drive going to require a nand gate, or can we just solder and go like the sd-616t?

sorry but i test thist point's and not are a valid points...

i can't not found the correct signals...

the only one what appears to be correct is the ready signal. "Z"

i must use a nand gate???

Hi,

DVD-ROM DRIVE
MODEL: GDR-8050L
Manufactured: November 2004
SN: 411HB059602
ROM VER.: 0012AD

other marks:
E-H023-0402108(
3850H-1412C
DHHS CODE:GH
FACTORY ID:GH
PRODUCT OF CHINA


The pcb inside is marked: 6870h-355AA

fwiw, Marcel.

I have one of these Hitachi drives and it is slow but it reads the cheapest media. Fry's had some no brand DVD's for $1.75 (50pk) reads them with no problems.

Thanks for the help - i was referring to the serial on the bottom of the xbox console though - on the white sticker

writing a firmware extractor shouldn't be too difficult, I know a little assembley... I'll look into it, it's mostly compatible with 8052's code? www.8052.com/users/disasm/ ...

http://www.scs.cs.nyu.edu/aos/lab/hardware/ATA-d1410r3a.pdf
page 103, the atapi "download microcode" command,
This command enables the host to alter the device’s microcode. The data transferred using the DOWNLOAD
MICROCODE command is vendor specific.
All transfers shall be an integer multiple of the sector size. The size of the data transfer is determined by the
contents of the LBA Low register and the Sector Count register. The LBA Low register shall be used to extend
the Sector Count register to create a 16-bit sector count value. The LBA Low register shall be the most
significant eight bits and the Sector Count register shall be the least significant eight bits. A value of zero in
both the LBA Low register and the Sector Count register shall specify no data is to be transferred. This allows
transfer sizes from 0 bytes to 33,553,920 bytes, in 512 byte increments.
The Features register shall be used to determine the effect of the DOWNLOAD MICROCODE command. The
values for the Features register are:
- 01h – download is for immediate, temporary use.
- 07h – save downloaded code for immediate and future use.
Either or both values may be supported. All other values are reserved.

but if all I need to do, is write a program that sends that command, and then saves the result why do there need to be special versions of the program depending on which chipset the drive runs? ah well, I'll try to figure out how to write an assembley program that runs on a dos boot disk.

thanks TeeTylerToe, if you can write a program that does that and works, that would be fantastic.
any help at the moment is greatly appreciated

at last i found all point except the "Y" in the LG 8163B

this point must be:
tray closed: 3.3 ~ 5
tray open: 0 (very importan check this when a disc is inserted)

can anyone help me with this point???

can you please provide us with a picture of where you say the points are please?

and can we get someone to verify them as well?

The Points

I have a problem with the "Y" when no disc is inserted it have de correct values, but when a disc is inserted take 0 value... can anyone help with this???

if i buy an xbox tomorrow from the new shipment at gamestop, what are the chances i get a hitachi?

chances are you wont be able to find an xbox in a store...
if you do get one you'll either get a Philips 2k4 drive, the samsung 605f or the HLDATA drive...
IF anyone with one would submit their serial number like i asked earlier... we may be able to tell which consoles are shipping with these drives.
I submitted information to the xbox-linux page earlier when i had a few of these consoles, but the page seems to be taken down now :-/

they got their shipment in yesterday and they said to come by tomorrow and pick one up.

well can you let us know if they have the drive, and what the serial number is. maybe donate that info to the xbox-linux page.

here's the serial on mine: 403234544506

OK so lets see here as I understand this means:

Line 4
Week 45 of 2004 production
In Taiwan

If people don't want to post there entire serial number they shouldn't have to, according to xbox-linux the serial breaks down like this



So really you don't have to give us the NNNNNN its just a little extra information of when it was produced.