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n3r0
fucking gamestop told me yesterday they had their shipment in, and the lady the other day told me to come tuesday to get one cause thats when they were getting them, i fucking hate that place. i hope it blows up. so i can get my $80 in credit back.
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(Lord Krisman @ Feb 2 2005, 06:07 AM)
If people don't want to post there entire serial number they shouldn't have to, according to xbox-linux the serial breaks down like this
So really you don't have to give us the NNNNNN its just a little extra information of when it was produced.
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thats right, all we need to know is where it was made, what preoduction line it was on, and what week of what year.

submittign this data to the xbox-linuix page is the best way of doing this. its an ongoing database, so that would be where it is most approipate to put this info
zoleet
Did anyone try the asus E616P2 drive?
ScoobySnack_94596
QUOTE(n3r0 @ Feb 1 2005, 11:14 PM)
fucking gamestop told me yesterday they had their shipment in, and the lady the other day told me to come tuesday to get one cause thats when they were getting them, i fucking hate that place. i hope it blows up. so i can get my $80 in credit back.
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I got mine at Target...they had quit a few instock.
samurI
Hi.

Just for your information, I got my xbox last week which is one of the new shipments into the uk. This HAS NOT got a H/LG drive. Its got a Samsung.

Ser No: 2****** 44905

Manufacturing date: 2004-12-02

Line: 2
Week 49 of 2004
In China

Hope this helps as to what has, and hasnt got the new drives in biggrin.gif
TracerX
Alright guys, now what we need to find those points (my eyes are crossing from trying to find that Y point) are some high-res pics of both sides of the pcb of the 8050. So if someone here has one in their xbox they are willing to take apart, we have some pics of the umm, main side(?), but we still need some of the other side. Maybe then we can do a trace and compare to the 8163.
TracerX
Can't edit so just wanted to let you know I found another W point on the main pcb located here:
user posted image
I just cut out the necessary part from the other point picture on here and marked it quickly in paint (sorry, its 2am here). I'm giving up on the Y point for the nite, gl all!
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(TracerX @ Feb 4 2005, 06:49 PM)
Alright guys, now what we need to find those points (my eyes are crossing from trying to find that Y point) are some high-res pics of both sides of the pcb of the 8050. So if someone here has one in their xbox they are willing to take apart, we have some pics of the umm, main side(?), but we still need some of the other side. Maybe then we can do a trace and compare to the 8163.
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what we really need to find these points are side by side high def shots of both sides of teh main pcb. so everone can compare
ChipInABox
Just bought my first Hitachi-DVD Xbox. Here's some stats:

Mfg. Date: 2004-12-07
Serial #: 283491145006
Product ID: 321283491145006

Of coarse v1.6, Samsung RAM.

Quick Question: I've heard this new drive is horrible, but others claim it'll read CDRs fine. Which is true? I'll try some DVDR and CDRWs in a couple hours.
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(ChipInABox @ Feb 5 2005, 02:37 AM)
Just bought my first Hitachi-DVD Xbox. Here's some stats:

Mfg. Date: 2004-12-07
Serial #: 283491145006
Product ID: 321283491145006

Of coarse v1.6, Samsung RAM.

Quick Question: I've heard this new drive is horrible, but others claim it'll read CDRs fine. Which is true? I'll try some DVDR and CDRWs in a couple hours.
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well as far as i know, its ok, but wont read cd-rs.

if possible can you please open it any take soem photos fo both sides? we need soem good images so we can mod a pc drive so we can get a very good replacement drive
ChipInABox
Do you mean open up the DVD drive itself and take pics?
TracerX
Yes, open up the dvd drive and take pics of the main pcb. That way we can trace the points.

As for high-res pics of the 8163b pcb there is a zip file somewhere in this topic that has extremely high-res pics, I think shaggie posted it.
TracerX
*making an attempt to bump this thread in the hopes of getting some pics of the main pcb on the 8050
shaggie
QUOTE(TracerX @ Feb 5 2005, 09:39 PM)
Yes, open up the dvd drive and take pics of the main pcb. That way we can trace the points.

As for high-res pics of the 8163b pcb there is a zip file somewhere in this topic that has extremely high-res pics, I think shaggie posted it.
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yeah, it was me ... smile.gif

here is the link again : HERE (8.35MB)

When i read about the program you're using to read the firmware off the 8050L drive.. It is done for the 8163B right? If the program looks for a 8163B, and thats why it says, no such drive found. Aint that so?? 8050L aint a 8163B .. it differs. The main hardware might be pretty much the same, or as we know now atleast.


But if the firmware and other stuff, that the firmware reader proggie checks, is different than the 8163B drive, then it never would be able to find the 8050L drive..
How could we ever use that tool then? We need the same kinda tool that doesnt check for the drive, it reads the firmware from the drive, thats lets say, is connected to primary slave. Or what ever we choose it to read from ... wasnt there a "download drive microcode" or something like that a few pages back?

Does that work somehow? Or am I missing something?


thats just something that i were thinking about .. Or if the developer of that firmware ripper could do the same program, but one that doesnt directly check that EXACTLY 8163B drive exists.

Do I make ANY sence? smile.gif

Thats just my .02 cents of cource! wink.gif
Staticvoid
^^^
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(Staticvoid @ Feb 8 2005, 12:57 PM)
^^^
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same/bump
otherguy
I'm so pissed, i want to help with this. Unfortunately I've purchased almost every xbox that's come to my area in the last month and none of them have hitachi drives in them
The seccond i get one in my hands i'll have all the info we need up here.
It just sucks because durring the christmas break i had three of these go through my hands sad.gif
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TracerX
Yeah, I only have one guy I know of with a 1.6 and I checked it the other nite. I know there's got to be one of these out there somewhere!
Staticvoid
QUOTE(otherguy @ Feb 8 2005, 05:43 PM)
I'm so pissed, i want to help with this. Unfortunately I've purchased almost every xbox that's come to my area in the last month and none of them have hitachi drives in them
The seccond i get one in my hands i'll have all the info we need up here.
It just sucks because durring the christmas break i had three of these go through my hands sad.gif
</rant>
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i know exactly what you mean ive been to every store within a hour of me
Sac2K4
I got 5 people commin in shortly with brand new 1.6 xboxes... we;; Xmas time.. and if one of em has an LG or wtv ill end up giving my sammy for it so i can get all te info we ned. I also have a digicam that can take 1600X1200 Macro shots a 6mp. so ill have no NICE pics also.

beerchug.gif
Sac
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(Sac2K4 @ Feb 9 2005, 11:28 PM)
I got 5 people commin in shortly with brand new 1.6 xboxes... we;; Xmas time.. and if one of em has an LG or wtv ill end up giving my sammy for it so i can get all te info we ned. I also have a digicam that can take 1600X1200 Macro shots a 6mp. so ill have no NICE pics also.

beerchug.gif
Sac
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now this is the sorta guy we need.
im really hoping we see some more boxes with these drives
schutzmarken
Hi, how is it going, find anyone with the new Hitachi-LG drive in the box? Just tell me if it is something i can do... i have a box with the hitachi-LG drive..
prominator
xbox v1.6 does any one know the color code maybe i could run leds with the standby
wich wire is the stb power?
aaron1017
If I ever get a Hitachi Drive in, I will also take some kickass pictures with m 3.2MP Macrovision camera!
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(schutzmarken @ Feb 14 2005, 08:37 AM)
Hi, how is it going, find anyone with the new Hitachi-LG drive in the box? Just tell me if it is something i can do... i have a box with the hitachi-LG drive..
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dont supose you can take some high res piotures of both sides of teh boards can you?
schutzmarken
I have a 3.2MP camera that can do 2048x1536.. but the close up pictures get real bad :/ Im going to try a macrofunction later IF i can find the manual to the camera or figure out how to do it myself =) But if it is something else i can do just tell me!!
theDeacon
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Sac2K4
ok... update. Moded all of em all 5 are phillips...lol... but I made more looking around. and i got 7 more people with 1.6 xbox commin in... so same deal sammy for it...

beerchug.gif
valius
I'm just waiting on the firmware

I have the 8163b hooked up & working fine.

The Z signal WXYZ in this pic needs to be reversed by the use of a nand gate, I couldn't find a proper Y so I used the nand gate to reverse the X signal & I used that as my Y.

Check out Superfro's tut in the tut's section, thats where I got the idea from.
aaron1017
Got me a Hitachi-LG DVD-ROM right in front of me, gonna take some macrovision 3.2MP pics! Give me an hour or so to take the pics, download them, and maybe put a watermark, lol.
aaron1017
Manufacture Date: 2004-12-13
Serial Number: 291488345106
Product ID: 221291488345106
ferrari_rulz_02
right. now we got soem good pics, all we need is the firware to be taken off the xbox drive...

have we gotten any further in that area guys?
aaron1017
The Dangerous Brothers seem to be good at hacking firmware. Anybody try and contact them?

The Dangerous Brothers
marcus905
QUOTE(aaron1017 @ Feb 17 2005, 04:16 PM)
The Dangerous Brothers seem to be good at hacking firmware. Anybody try and contact them?

The Dangerous Brothers
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They have been already contacted. They released also a firmware downloader for this dvdrom. Look back in this thread. It should be called dwld8163.exe .
However the firmware for the xbox dvd drives can not be patched because it is encrypted, and it is read from a xbox dvd drive just to try it in other lg consumer products.

Marcus905
01dabreoo
hi
has anyone found that when its loading (espesialy on back ups)
thats it makes funny sounds lie the laser keep moving
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(marcus905 @ Feb 18 2005, 11:40 PM)
They have been already contacted. They released also a firmware downloader for this dvdrom. Look back in this thread. It should be called dwld8163.exe .
However the firmware for the xbox dvd drives can not be patched because it is encrypted, and it is read from a xbox dvd drive just to try it in other lg consumer products.

Marcus905
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well can who ever conatcted them in teh first place get back to them, and see if we can fix this problem? maybe get them to write an xbe for us
marcus905
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Feb 22 2005, 08:50 AM)
well can who ever conatcted them in teh first place get back to them, and see if we can fix this problem? maybe get them to write an xbe for us
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The one who contacted TDB was LenteSubigo. Try sending him a PM or whatever.

Marcus905
Thurizaz
I will soon get my hands on a lg xbox drive, I have the tools needed to compile an xbe so if someone could get some sourcecode for a program I could try to port it for the Xbox. Im not a very skillfull programmer but I can at least try. beerchug.gif
theuhstuf
OK i read this WHOLE topic and didn't see ANYONE mention that they were using 74 or 80 minute CDrs...I have a Samsung and I know for a fact that it won't read 80minute/700 MB cds, SO is it that the HL won't read CDrs or that they won't read 80Minute CDrs (well it IS hard to find any 74minute CDs anywhere anymore)
Chrisolux
I have read the whole thing too, didn't read much about perfromance of this LG drive...

I have one (I have to check my serial/drawer, but I am pretty sure I have one)

performance: I have noticed random disc errors and a few screen freezes, with certain games and no problems with other games...

Just my two cents...

Might be interested in trading for a good working sammy or phillips. i don't want to mod just want a system that works without alot of hassle...
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(theuhstuf @ Feb 25 2005, 05:18 AM)
OK i read this WHOLE topic and didn't see ANYONE mention that they were using 74 or 80 minute CDrs...I have a Samsung and I know for a fact that it won't read 80minute/700 MB cds, SO is it that the HL won't read CDrs or that they won't read 80Minute CDrs  (well it IS hard to find any 74minute CDs anywhere anymore)
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whether or not is a 74 min or 80min cd makes no difference. and it has been tested, and it wont read cd-r's.


i pm'd LenteSubigo, lets see if he gets back on here to help us out
Chrisolux
UPDATE:

Sry guys, I got my xbox for Christmas 04, but my manufactor date is 7-17-03...

weird, i guess mine sat on the shelf for a while....

I don't have one of the new drives...
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(Chrisolux @ Feb 26 2005, 01:59 AM)
UPDATE:

Sry guys, I got my xbox for Christmas 04, but my manufactor date is 7-17-03...

weird, i guess mine sat on the shelf for a while....

I don't have one of the new drives...
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thats unusal. they usualy dont sit around that long.

but anyway, what we need here is LenteSubigo to get back here
EmTea
I got a new xbox a while ago. I belive it has the Hitachi-LG drive.
It's acting up whatever it is. It'll go on this campagine of not reading games.This afternoon it stopped reading halo 2, I bet if i put it in now and play it it'll work. Also at xbox boot there is this LAG. The flubber will flubb then it gets all skippy and the audio get out of sync. Then just as the little "ding-ding" sound starts it stops and the MS logo comes on . Then it says that it cant recognice the DVD or CD. It's weird.
crazygreekangelo
someone please figure out the problem with the firmware extraction software. it seems that this is what is holding up the project.
wenid
QUOTE(crazygreekangelo @ Feb 27 2005, 03:33 PM)
someone please figure out the problem with the firmware extraction software.  it seems that this is what is holding up the project.
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Not any more. I have extracted the BIOS.

I spent about $200 (Australian) on hardware, including both a 8050L Xbox drive and a 8163B PC drive as well as the parts to build an "IDE flasher" (see www.loet.de). It also took quite a number of hours to wire up each drive to the flasher etc., but I won through in the end.

I have flashed my 8163B with the 8050L BIOS and verified that it still works in the PC as well as in the Xbox!
It will not read CDR discs (74 or 80 minute), in either the PC or the Xbox, as expected. It will read original game discs, at least it had no trouble with the old Halo disc I tried, and it also had no trouble with a TDK DVD-R disc I tried.

At the moment I only have the power lines and eject signal hooked up. I should have time tomorrow morning (Australian time) to try and confirm the points for at least a couple of the other signals. I'll use pictures posted earlier in this thread as a starting point.

I also downloaded the Dangerous Brothers auto-reset BIOSes for this drive. These are Windoze executables for flashing the BIOS to the drive. The BIOS image is embedded in the executable. I haven't tried it yet (partly because I don't run Windoze natively on any of my PCs), but I'm assuming that I can just patch one of these executables with the 8050L BIOS and then use the patched executable to flash any number of 8163B drives (one at a time) without going to the trouble I did this time.

More later... (still want LenteSubigo back, guys?)
wenid
I was up late last night and a couple of things came up this morning so I haven't had time to do anything further on this front. Maybe this evening...
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(wenid @ Feb 28 2005, 12:09 PM)
I was up late last night and a couple of things came up this morning so I haven't had time to do anything further on this front. Maybe this evening...
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thank you very much. i cant wait till you get it finished.
wenid
Sorry. Still no more progress, but tomorrow I'll have time for sure.
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