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turho
QUOTE(tiberius05 @ May 15 2005, 11:12 AM)
Turho,

I will try to assist by summarising the steps you need to take in order to complete
this mod. I must start off by saying that my first attempt was less than successful, so please take your time. All the information I used was obtained from this thread and that I would not have been able to carry out this mod if it wasn't for the people who contributed and came up with a solution. So big thanks to them.

Firstly look at page 49 of this thread. truBB (May 4 2005, 07:37 AM ).
This is basically all I needed to complete the mod.

Step 1 get the xbox firmware.

The file you are after is called 8050L_FW_Flasher_FIXED.rar
This can be obtained from the usual source i.e. xbins. Please refer to the following tutorial if you do not know how to get files from xbins.
http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/xbins.php

Step 2. Flashing the drive.

Connect the dvd drive to your PC. I followed truBB's advise (page 49) and connected my drive on the secondary master ide channel and set the jumper to cable select.

I had problems flashing the drive with windows xp so I created a dos 6 boot disk.
www.bootdisk.com is a good site to use.
I copied the firmware onto the boot disk as I have NTFS partitions.

I booted the PC from the dos boot disk and typed in the following command:
SF8163.exe 8050L.dld 2 /p /c /f /o /i

Step 3. soldering.

Open the DVD drive case and remove the board. Carefully remove the 3 ribbon cables. 1 of the cables is stuck to the underside of the board so you will need to flip the board over and carefully remove this.

The board is only held in by a small clip.

If I can please refer you back to page 49 all the solder points are clearly shown.

I used 1k common resistors (with the stripes), truBB has used surface mountable resistors. I have been informed that both types are fine.

I used desolder braid as suggested on page 49 to remove the solder from the audio connector. I then carefully levered them up with a small screwdriver and needle nose pliers.

I also found that by scratching the pads on the board a little with a needle and applying a little liquid flux helped the soldering. I then tinned the resistor. Finally I put the component on the board and the soldering iron on the component. I did not touch the board directly with the iron, I let the liquid flux do the work.If you apply to much heat to the pads they will lift off as I have discovered so please be careful.

When you put the drive back together you will notice that the board won't go back in because of the the straightened audio pins. You will need to cut out a small piece of plastic to allow the board to go back down.

step 3 Making a cable.

You need a cable to send the Eject, Ready, CD tray in, and CD tray out signals that you have routed through the audio connection of the DVD drive to your xbox. This is made from a standard dvd audio lead (comes with most dvd drives) and the yellow lead that normally goes between the xbox mother board and original drive.

Please refer to page 49.

Basically you have 4 wires going from the dvd drive to the xbox motherboard
I found that doing each cable one at a time and labelling each cable helped.

Step 4 Making it fit

You will need a y-pair molex connector which connects to the lead that normally goes into the back of your hard drive. It the splits allowing you to supply power to the hard drive and the dvd drive.

Remove the bezel and the surrounding black face plate.

If you put the drive into the plastic dvd tray you will notice that the cylindrical upright (at the front on the left needs to be cut. I chopped mine straight down the middle.

You should now be able to make the drive fit into the xbox.

When you put the lid on you will notice there is another cylindrical piece of plastic coming downwards. The easiest thing to do is cut this bit off. I've got a green xbox and am not so keen in doing this so I will probably make a hole in the dvd drive case.

Hope this helps, best of luck.
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Tiberius05! Very thanks for informations. I big-big-big please: flasher prog and bin files give me for my e-mail post? /sorry my english smile.gif/
turho@freemail.hu

THX from HUNGARY!!!!!
Epic007
Here are some snapshots of my DVD bezel and case mods.

user posted image
The red area is where you need to shave down evenly on each side. Also the same areas on the XBOX bezel piece.


user posted image
I clipped the pegs that stuck up here in the red areas.


user posted image
I used tin snips on the red area to cut a piece of the metal casing where the peg sticks up from the XBOX. I used the original drive as a template. By doing this I did not have to cut that peg out and my drive stays firmly in place without any screws.


user posted image
Also, I sliced the peg on the top cover down the center line so it would fit around the drive.

turho
Tiberius05, thaks for all. And email smile.gif
Your mod is cd-r compatible, or not?
SpEeDaMiGo
First of all, thanks to everybody who put some great effort into this mod!!!

Well, today I soldered to whole thing toghether as on page49, but I have the same problem as "jgranie" ... evox will always stay on "cd: open"!

Well, I didn't flash the firmware cause I care more about CD-R support than games ... could this cause any difference for the soldering points, is this mod appliable for flashed drives respectively??

thx
menelik
@SpEeDaMiGo
try to switch pin 3 with 4, tray in and tray out. i modded 5 dvddrives today and all worked very fine.

WARNING TO EVERYONE:

Use the correct firmware, there are older firwwares out which generally work but you'll need different soldering points and some functions wont be 1:1 to the original drive. the correct firmware is called 8050L_FW_Flasher_FIXED.rar
SpEeDaMiGo
@menelik: thanks for the input
gonna have another try, although i doubt it'll change anything, cause i measured the whole thing and the pins read as follows:

ready: always 0v sad.gif
try_out: out: 3.3v, in: 0v ->but odd: in with cd: 3.3v uhh.gif
try_in: always 0v sad.gif
eject: works fine biggrin.gif

evox only shows "open" the whole time

i soldered everything according to page49, ie truBB ... and it's not the first solder job for me, nor is it a really hard mod to perform.

i guess the problem is that i didn't flash the drive with 8050L bios ... cause i care more about cd-r than games!

has anybody got it working WITHOUT flashing the firmware?

thx
truBB
You must flash your drive for this mod to work.. And you must flash it with the right firmware..


I started working on a tutorial, and its basically what everyone has been doing. I'm not completely finished, but it may help some of you.

How to turn a GDR-8163b dvdrom into a 8050L xbox xdrive


There may be some typos, and I'm still not complete, but I'm getting there. beerchug.gif

turho
HI All!
I flashed the 8163b the 8050L_FW_Flasher.rar firmware.
This drive is not working the pc sad.gif then put ide cable, a pc is not booting.
How to reflashing it, the 8050L_FW_Flasher_FIXED.rar firmware?
Idea?
My flashed 8163 not compatible the pc? sad.gif

turho
truBB: congratulation for good tutorial page. Thx from HUN. beerchug.gif biggrin.gif
SpEeDaMiGo
@truBB
very nice tutorial!!

well, that's what i thought about these soldering points: they only work when flashing the drive with the 8050L bios! sad.gif

anybody found a solution without flashing the drive?

i guess i'm gonna have to try this version of the mod:
Schematics Lg 8163b Xbox (xbox Game Fixed)

might have a better chance with this one as it resembles the lg drd-8061 mod (tutorial section on xbox-scene)
turho
truBB!
My drive is working for pc. I'm flashing 8050L old.
How to reflashing 8163b? smile.gif And flashing 8050L fixed?
turho
Don't work.
I flashed the not fixed 8050L sad.gif
I don't reflashing 8050L fixed sad.gif
Evox status is ejecting all time.
The eject button working, in-out.
How to re-soldering correct point the old fw, and how to reflashing my old 8050L smile.gif the 8050L fixed???
turho
HELP!!
menelik
plug in the drive into your pc and use the bootdisk made with

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechS...-1&lang=English

it worked with mine, i used the old bios first and wondered why didnt work right until i reflashed it to 8163b and later to the fixed 8050l - it should also be possible to flas it directly to the fixed firmware.
turho
menelik: this program says: not detected the 8163b drive sad.gif and not flashing.
turho
please "howto"
menelik
use sf8163 8050l.dld 2 /c /f /p /o

/c /f /p /o is important here!

turho
And secondary master?
turho
I problem: i reflashed the 8163b is 8050l.
Old 8050L firmware.
How to reflashing my old 8050L the 8050L fixed?
i think, 2 step.
1. I reflashing the old 8050L bios the normal 8163b bios /i don't know, how to/
2. The good 8163b drive flashing with 8050L fixed.
?

smile.gifsmile.gif
turho
Please all steps.
menelik
i am not your personal instructor, i told you the way. use the bootdisk with the commands and read the manual damn it. just type sf8163 and you'll see the parameters and their functions.
turho
Vendor or product id check error sad.gif
turho
I reflashed ang GOOOOOOOD smile.gif
Menelik you are GOD!
Wonder1
Iīm new here my english not so god, bud i read this threat. this have me verry confused.
I serach for mod howto for the LG 8163B this can read cd-r and backups in my Xbox, they must not read Xbox Games, not realy when too ther is fine but not this is priority of the drive.
The Point is i lost the line in this threat and i need the points for the 4 signals to Xbox Tray in / out, ready and eject .the next question is need i for the mod the 1k Resitors yes or no.
In the most german forumīs can i nothing read to a mod of a lg 8163B.

thx
ReRuss
user posted imageHaitchi drive (what I have apprently) will not read CD-Rs , it will read DVD-R and CD-RW

Here is a edited drive pic (based off the philips pic)

SpEeDaMiGo
@wonder1
currently the mod described in this topic will not work without flashing the firmware.

in other words: if you want cd-r support, don't flash the drive. without flashing though you'll need other soldering points which i'm also trying to locate.

maybe the schematics shown in the other topic for this drive (with a logic chip) might work ... so far i didn't have the time to try.
Maverick-DBZ-
What are you talking about SpEeDaMiGo? You have to flash the drive no matter what or it won't work. Unless I'm not understanding your right are you saying there is another way to do this mod and get CD-r support without flashing the drive????? I dought thats what you ment but I just thought I ask so people don't get confused. Please explain. smile.gif



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I just have one question before I FINALLY start this mod. Can the 8050L firmware be hacked to enable CD-r support or am I deaming? If it can be done is it really hard to do? Has a xbox firmware ever been hacked to enable certain features; for example the samsung firmware or has it always supported CD-r?


Sorry for all the questions. unsure.gif
SpEeDaMiGo
sorry if my last post was confusing, but all I'm saying is that:

if you want original games support, then you have to flash the drive and solder everything according to the guide, but it will not read cd-r.

if you want to keep cd-r support, don't flash the drive (then it will not read originals, though, obviously), and you'll need other soldering points.

the second solution is what wonder1 was asking for.
sorcer1
QUOTE(SpEeDaMiGo @ May 17 2005, 04:29 PM)
if you want to keep cd-r support, don't flash the drive (then it will not read originals, though, obviously), and you'll need other soldering points.

the second solution is what wonder1 was asking for.
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Me too !!!!

But nobody has found the soldering points !

With the original bios the drive can read cd-r even without soldering points, isn't it?

Cheers.
SpEeDaMiGo
well, of course it can read cd-r with the original 8163b bios. the whole point of the soldering job is just to have the drive operate on its own in the xbox with working eject button, etc. (without having to attach the xbox drive as well)

how far are people on the firmware front? anybody working on hacking the 8050 bios for cd-r support?

I made a request at rpc1.org, but as far as I have read in other posts, the dangerous brothers are "not interested in promoting xbox piracy" sad.gif
menelik
if you guys really want a nce drive without the ability to read originals read or better take a look (as its in german)
http://www.paccforce.de/tutorials/Tutorial_TS-H352.pdf
SpEeDaMiGo
yeah, I can confirm that it's a nice tutorial!

too bad I've already purchased an LG-8163B!

@truBB:
have you made further testing regarding the points you wanted to short, i.e. something with LDCD and LDDV?
Stitch_626
QUOTE(SpEeDaMiGo @ May 18 2005, 03:17 AM)
well, of course it can read cd-r with the original 8163b bios. the whole point of the soldering job is just to have the drive operate on its own in the xbox with working eject button, etc. (without having to attach the xbox drive as well)

how far are people on the firmware front? anybody working on hacking the 8050 bios for cd-r support?

I made a request at rpc1.org, but as far as I have read in other posts, the dangerous brothers are "not interested in promoting xbox piracy"  sad.gif
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They express this view many times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dopeuser
Ok, so I have 8050L_FW_Flasher_FIXED.rar, and the 8163b, but my 'new' PC doesnt have a floppy drive, so the truBB tut recommends UltimateBootCD, and I got that. BUT I'm not sure how I put the flasher on the cd. It's an ISO, its easy enough to extract it, and add the flasher an make a new ISO, but I dont know where on the CD it would go. Anyone know? Im sure its simple (I hope) but Ive never used UBCD before, and dont want to take my computer apart, and waste 5 cd-r's and hours of my time if someone can please help....
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
truBB
@dopeuser
I don't have a floppy either. I use a boot cdrom. You can put the flasher anywhere on your hard drive. The boot cd is used to boot into dos, then change drives and run the flasher:

CODE
c:
cd\temp
etc.
etc.

dopeuser
doh!, sometimes I'm so busy looking for the complicated answer, the simple obvious one slips right by! In c:\temp the flasher goes! thanks
menelik
btw folks,

i sell those drives for 35 € (complete black version) from germany, shipping cost in germany are 7 €. international shipping would be too expensive.
the drives are modded and got the rightmobo connector => plug n play
Stilly82
QUOTE(truBB @ May 16 2005, 05:16 AM)
You must flash your drive for this mod to work.. And you must flash it with the right firmware..
I started working on a tutorial, and its basically what everyone has been doing.  I'm not completely finished, but it may help some of you.

How to turn a GDR-8163b dvdrom into a 8050L xbox xdrive
There may be some typos, and I'm still not complete, but I'm getting there.  beerchug.gif
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Ok, thanks truBB, but i want to know one thing, this is the FINAL mod for this drive???
Or there are other thing that don't work???
Another questions: All the evox status and the xbox media center status are now work propely like an original drive???
Thanks for your answer!!!
menelik
ok guys, this is really annoying, 20 % of this thread is based on the questions, does te ready work? will you guys hack the firmeware to get faster and better cd-r support.....cant you people just use the search enginge...!?
truBB
QUOTE(Stilly82 @ May 19 2005, 05:22 AM)
Ok, thanks truBB, but i want to know one thing, this is the FINAL mod for this drive???
Or there are other thing that don't work???
Another questions: All the evox status and the xbox media center status are now work propely like an original drive???
Thanks for your answer!!!
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1. There is never a FINAL mod. This mod may continue to grow as ppl find interest and continue the work.
This mod will get you a working 8050L out of a 8163b.

2. See answer above

3. Yes
dopeuser
well, it worked for me.
Mine was a 8163b (white one) , the date on it says Feb 2005.
Just wanted to add this, because I know in this thread (somewhere amongst the
800+ posts) someone said something about newer 8163b's not working.
Ive tried originals, and dvd+r's, they both work fine.
I havent cut open the xbox yet to properly install it (thats tomorrow) but
just switching over the IDE cable, and y-splitting the power to it, it plays games either by booting up with a game in it, or using boxplorer, and opening the default.xbe.
dopeuser
doh! did I break it??
ok, everythings working, fine, and since I dont sleep, I figured I may as well do the soldering now. So I take the 4 screws off the
back, unclip the wires and board, then I thought Id take the faceplate part off. As I was messing around with that,
I noticed a sound.... almost like a small screw was in there, actually more like a small ball bearing rolling around. But only if I turn it slowly in certain directions. Its hard to tell excactly where the sound is coming from, its completely apart and I dont see anything.
I don't think it made this sound before, I sure didnt notice, and now that I do notice, its driving me nuts!
Anyone know what it could be? Does anyone else 8163 sound funny if you move it around?
Im sure this is probably nothing, maybe some little balance sensing device? Or maybe I broke it taking it apart?? I dont think so, Im pretty easy on stuff like this, since I know its easily broken.
Oh well, I have no clue, anyone know what that sound is?
truBB
@dopeuser
Does it sound like this? sound

You gotta lay off the dope every once and a while. That noise is just the ball bearings in the slide rails of the dvdrom...

dopeuser
ahhh good, then nothing to worry about,
just I swear I didnt hear it before, well I probably heard it, just didn't really notice it though, so when I did hear it, well, you get the idea, thanks for answering, took a load off my mind, Im soldering this thing right now, loads of fun!
monsteria

I confirm that this mod works: DVD-R/W and DVD+R/W, but no CD-R.

But I NEED Help!!!!

I bought two LG drives, the first one i made a mistake and sent 5.0v to the eject connection. Now the eject function doesn' work. Help! Anyone has any ideas how I can fix it? Everything else works fine.

I know that my cable and soldering points are correct because I manage to mod the second drive and its all working nicely.

Can someone help me with repairing my first drive, it plays all DVD but the eject button doesn't work.

Current status.
Eject = 0v open, 0v close
Ready = 0v open, 3.3v close
What shoudl the In and Out points be?

Many thanks




dopeuser
monsteria....

putting 5volts thru something not meant to carry 5volts could have fried something in its path. Or possibly you soldered to the right point, but something lifted or came loose? I'm not sure, those are the simplest things to check, like as you say, the other one works with the same solder points.

Beside the eject solder point, theres that white plastic connector part that you pulled the cable out of. On that connector the second pin from the left (it says LDOUT on the board on top of it, its directly under the 'L') should test for continuity with the pin on the audio connector you wired for eject. As well test between each of those pins, to your solder point, one at a time.

Sorry if this is obvious to you, or youve already checked that.
SpEeDaMiGo
Ok guys, I performed some experiments today with VRCD and VRDVD.

I can confirm that shorting these two will indeed make a modded 8050L read cd-r, but no longer dvd-r.

Putting a diode across these points either way won't have any impact!

Shorting VRDVD to ground will not change anything.

Shorting VRCD to ground will have the same effect as connecting it with VRDVD.

I pulled out my digital multimeter and tried to get some insight in how these two points work, but I didn't get any reasonable results that would maybe allow to implement some logical curcuit.

Anyway, I tried some more stuff ... and screwed up my LG drive: now it won't read any media anymore, don't know why.

Well, I'll have to buy another one and for the time being I think I'm just gonna install an external switch which will short VRCD to ground ... you need to lift your a** anyway to change media... not too big of a deal (for me). And by shorting it to ground there's not gonna be any problem with switching between DVD and CD mode while the xbox is running.
u_no_fr
hi all,

does this method work??

http://www.tuning-consoles.com/modules.php...content&tid=114

tchuss beerchug.gif
dopeuser
SpEeDaMiGo- that sound cool, yeah, a switch sounds easy enough to toggle back and forth between cdr to dvdr reading, Id be doing that right now, except just wondering if that had anything to do with your LG screwing up? Or were you doing something else that probably did that?

monsteria- I was putting my drive back in the xbox, and I noticed if you look at it from the front, right below the eject button on the LG, theres barely any space between the solder points beneath the switch, and the metal casing for the drive, it would be very easy and possible maybe theres a short there? I know its the xbox eject switch that isnt opening the 8163b, but unless you isolated the switches, a short at one would cause the other not to work. Just a possibility....
menelik
first of all:
if its true that shortng vrcd and vrdvd let you read all cds and dont damage the drive and that this signal isnt digital there should be no problem to make an autoswitch with a transistor, some kinda gatter or whatever.

i will take a closer look on this shorting method later. im really afraid of shorting points without knowing their purposes.
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