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menelik

OK GUYS: READ THIS AND STAY PREPARED


I have my dve running like a charm with every media i throw at it, equal if cds or dvds. the modding costs for the cd support are about 10 euro-cent wink.gif

because i'm not sure if the drive will get damaged i gotta make some stress tests and puplish this mod.
if this mod works this will be the first drive in the history which wont have ANY media problems at all. it will read dvd-r(w) like the most, it will rea dvd+r(w) which no samsung could and it will read every cd like no drive really could before.

if this mod wont work just ignore this message, but it works here for at least one hour wink.gif

btw, i couldnt fix the slow cd speed, anyway, better than nothing.
SpEeDaMiGo
well, sounds good! too bad mine stopped working at all!

but it didn't screw up as a result of shorting vrcd and vrdvd ...

just another thing I was wondering about: reviews tell the 8163b has got some really nice error correction. by flashing it to the 8050l, does it keep the same error correction?? otherwise it wouldn't be worth much for me if it gets some cheep-a** error correction as a result of the 8050l bios.
menelik
i dont know athing about the error connection but y drive can read every cd i throw at it except a 5 ear old green 4x cd (green makes probs)
i had a max speed of 1,2 kb, not fast at all but this could als be solved some day.

btw, maye you accidentaly short vrdvd with the capacitor next to it whic goes to the laser. if yes you laser is fried.
jgranie
Could you give some infos on your magic solution ?
If the post was done by a newbie, I just say you're joking and don't pay attention to it, but you are a senior member, so...
Stilly82
QUOTE(u_no_fr @ May 21 2005, 05:08 PM)


Hey guys, what type is this mod?????
This work good? It seems very good to make and very easy, but only two wires???
What do you think about this trueBB and Menelik (THE EXPERTS)???

Thanks fot your answer!!!
menelik
just wait until tomorrow. i mailed trubb my solution and he will test this too. i got two working drives here and just have to do some fine tuning. the big suprise was that i really can read every medium - believe me that this is for real wink.gif
i also did some stress test an my drive is still alive and i dont think that my method will hurt it. i' happy to say that this is really the first mod which dont have any frontiers with media.

the last todo thing is the max speed limitation of about 1200 kb/s for cds. actually im not interested into more speed and i dont believe that this will be easy to solve without firmware hacks which you shouldnt wait for.

btw, i'm going to publish my tutorial tomorrow which will also show how to fit the drive gently into the xbox.

stay tuned wink.gif
SpEeDaMiGo
@menelik
That could very likely have happened ... it's what I had in mind too. Didn't expect it to fry the laser permanently though.

I guess your mod is based on vrcd and vrdvd ...

@stilly82
Go ahead and try it and see what turns out. I don't know WHY this mod SHOULD even work though, considering it only uses 2 wires. Nevermind.
truBB
@stilly82
hehe, sure that mod will work, somewhat... eject will work, reading original xbox games won't work, status won't work in eVox, status in smartxx firmware won't work, status in flashbios won't work and you need a mod chip to read backed up games/apps. If you want this kind of setup, you don't need a 8163b smile.gif



u_no_fr
Exactly guys,

it just works for eject the tray jester.gif

tchusss
turho
The cd-r support project working or not? smile.gif
dopeuser
http://www.tuning-consoles.com/modules.php...content&tid=114
just looks like simply rewire of the switches, kinda like I could rerun the wires in my house to the light switch in the kitchen turns on the lights in the bathroom, but that doesnt mean I can take a dump in the kitchen sink!
but anyways... I got everything done with my 8163b, its flashed and been hacked up to fit nicely in the xbox, well, almost.... it doesnt come foward enough, it needs about another 1/16" or so to bring it flush with the front.
The height is good, its nice and centered and doesnt rub anything when opening or closing, obviously Ill have to cut, grind, bend, or mutilate something to give me that 1/16", but what? Oh well, I think Ill wait for menelik's tutorial on "how to fit the drive gently into the xbox." hopefully you have a lot of pics, and dont forget to drop the link to it here please.
And THANKS!
G0t M4xx 21
QUOTE(menelik @ May 21 2005, 07:26 PM)

it will rea dvd+r(w) which no samsung could and it will read every cd like no drive really could before.

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Hmm, every Samsung 605b and flashed 616t I have reads everything, including dvd+r and dvd+rw, and "every cd". Maybe I just got lucky.
menelik
@G0t M4xx 21

i tested every version pof the samsung drive except the version coming along with the 1.6 which was the worst. no drive could read dvd+, even the modded 616t cant. the latest samsung drives read no cds too.
ferrari_rulz_02
has anyone actually made a tutorial on this yet???
G0t M4xx 21
QUOTE(menelik @ May 22 2005, 11:38 AM)
@G0t M4xx 21

i tested every version pof the samsung drive except the version coming along with the 1.6 which was the worst. no drive could read dvd+, even the modded 616t cant. the latest samsung drives read no cds too.
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I haven't tried the 1.6 samsung yet (i know it sucks), but every 605b and 616t Ive ever messed with has read dvd+r/rw. For me at least, its dvd-r/rw that they have trouble with.

Ive burned many game backups to Memorex 8x DVD+R, burned iso with both Roxio or Nero, and every Sammy drive reads em fine.

It also reads movies fine from dvd+r/rw
menelik
well, i tested it with dvd+ and also read a lot about the fact that it just has no dvd+r support. when i remember right even the 616t model itself has no dvd+ feature, maybe your burner set the book type to - ?
menelik
ok guys, tutorial and solution posted here,

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=400274

i think that we all have waited long enough for such a drive!
[H]ackerK
QUOTE(SpEeDaMiGo @ May 21 2005, 06:32 AM)
Ok guys, I performed some experiments today with VRCD and VRDVD.

I can confirm that shorting these two will indeed make a modded 8050L read cd-r, but no longer dvd-r.

Putting a diode across these points either way won't have any impact!

Shorting VRDVD to ground will not change anything.

Shorting VRCD to ground will have the same effect as connecting it with VRDVD.

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Are you talking about just the plain orginal 8050 found in the newer XBOX w/o firmware upgrade what so ever? Just shorting those two point will do tricks?
SpEeDaMiGo
@[H]ackerK
Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I was talking about a modded 8163B. I don't own the 8050L, got one of those newer Samsung cheap a** drives.
Stilly82
After i flashed the drive with the fixed firmware of xbins the led busy of the drive is alway on, is it normal or not???
Thanks for your answer!!!! smile.gif
menelik
yes it is.
Stilly82
QUOTE(menelik @ May 30 2005, 09:57 PM)
yes it is.
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Thanks a lot!
htcmagician
Hello !

I read nearly the whole thread, but I miss one thing:
You can connect your LG-8050 to a PC to flash a Firmware which can read CDRs... great work!, but isnt it possible to flash the HITACHI LG 8050 in the XBOX ?
maybe with an xbe flasher application or something ..
(or with the Evox, which can flash the xbox bios ... why not the dvd-drive firmware?)
... or maybe with XDSL
Or is there a solution / is it possible and I didn't find it in the Forum ?

HTCMAGICIAN
Akuaguen
I got the same question....

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO HACK THE HL GDR-8050L DATA STORAGE XBOX DRIVE THAT COMES WITH LAST CONSOLES????


Hack for what??? because it does not read CD-Rs.......

Thanks
htcmagician
QUOTE(Akuaguen @ May 31 2005, 09:34 PM)
I got the same question....

HOW IS IT POSSIBLE TO HACK THE HL GDR-8050L DATA STORAGE XBOX DRIVE THAT COMES WITH LAST CONSOLES????
Hack for what??? because it does not read CD-Rs.......

Thanks
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With or without open the xbox/connecting it to a pc ?

htcmagician


menelik
read here for that
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=400274
htcmagician
QUOTE(menelik @ May 31 2005, 10:31 PM)


Sorry, but in that thread i didn't find anything about how to flash the drive without opening the xbox ... !?

htcmagician
menelik
sorry, i should have quoted, my message was for Akuaguen

QUOTE(htcmagician @ Jun 1 2005, 08:37 PM)
Sorry, but in that thread i didn't find anything about how to flash the drive without opening the xbox ... !?

htcmagician
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[H]ackerK
QUOTE(SpEeDaMiGo @ May 30 2005, 09:39 AM)
@[H]ackerK
Sorry if it wasn't clear, but I was talking about a modded 8163B. I don't own the 8050L, got one of those newer Samsung cheap a** drives.
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Thx for clear up my confusion.. wink.gif

Now I just hope there is a new firmware for the 8050L....
Black2lip
Hi I just got an xbox to mod which look very simulair to the v1.6 but it has an Hitachi-LG DVD drive and brown cables instead of the yellow ones.

Does anyone know if this is just the same as the v1.6 to mod?
Chancer
Where have you been? there is like a million page thread in this section about these drives they have been around ages.
Yes its the same to mod as a 1.6 because it is a 1.6
Black2lip
QUOTE(Chancer @ Jun 3 2005, 09:38 PM)
Where have you been? there is like a million page thread in this section about these drives they have been around ages.
Yes its the same to mod as a 1.6 because it is a 1.6
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Aha ok thanxs, have been out 'the scene' for a few months and searched the forums without result.
Slrpgeit
How can you miss a sixty page thread about the LG drive dry.gif
lordvader129
QUOTE(Slrpgeit @ Jun 3 2005, 04:22 PM)
How can you miss a sixty page thread about the LG drive  dry.gif
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now they are one and the same
DjoeN
Pfffwt, this was me a nice reading biggrin.gif, but i still couldn't figure out IF the GDR 8162B Also will work.

I have 2 LG GDR 8162B drives around, Or must it be The GDR 8163B ?

If the GDR 8162B works is it identical to mod like the 8163B

Thx.

nase
This Mod will only work with the GRD-8163B
TGD
I have one of these LG Hitachi drives in an xbox..compared to my other two xboxes which one has a thompson and the other the first "good" sammy drive. I tell ya this much..this LG hitachi loads my dvd-r backups quicker then my fast sammy drive or at the very least in equal speed.

I've only used dvd-r,dvd+r and dvd-rw..all work great in this LG..and i've used about 5 diffrent brands of -r,+r,-rw each. Nice drive..though too bad it wont read cd-r but thats ok..there are other ways to get your music on hd via pc.
Maverick-DBZ-
Has anyone tried loading Dual Layer Media on the modified drive? My Samsung 616T drive wouldn't read my DL discs. huh.gif
rog311
QUOTE(TGD @ Jul 5 2005, 10:33 PM)
I have one of these LG Hitachi drives in an xbox..compared to my other two xboxes which one has a thompson and the other the first "good" sammy drive. I tell ya this much..this LG hitachi loads my dvd-r backups quicker then my fast sammy drive or at the very least in equal speed.

I've only used dvd-r,dvd+r and dvd-rw..all work great in this LG..and i've used about 5 diffrent brands of -r,+r,-rw each. Nice drive..though too bad it wont read cd-r but thats ok..there are other ways to get your music on hd via pc.
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ground that VRCD point in the tut, like i did,
my drive now reads Cd-rs,
and agreed about the drive, though i do have like 2 dvd-rs that my sammy will read and this wont,
but other than that, no complaints.
menelik
play aroiund with the resisotr, try 1,5 k instead of 1k, you drive may read the two dvd-r then, but some cd-r not then.
xenonmodz
tray in trace broke.... where is the next point I am trying to trace it but appears as a dead end
Jesterace
I've too gotten this drive... So far as everyone else noticed dvd-/+r works well, dvd+rw works well in my drive. And as well as dvd+r dl. And CDR is a no go. I haven't tried a cdrw since I mostly use dvd's for archiving anything.
faast
Wow dude, you revived a two week old thread so you could re-state what others have said. mad.gif BUT while we're here...My friend has one of these drives and it is so-so, kindy picky with CD-RWs tho.
heraldoffailure
Is anyone planning on selling modded GDR-8163Bs for a reasonable price?

Keep in mind that these things aren't rare like the 616ts so the 150+ price tag that those carried is not reasonable for these drives.
nachomans
Just...one thing everybody must know....
The board is cheap!! I know how to solder, but I like high wattage solders (like 30w), but in this case the board is really cheap...so you can desolder pads easyly, so take care and use only 15watt solder!
nachomans
I´ve two drives modded...but i have some kind of overheating problem I think....the drive after 15min...start skipping video or games get DRE....I dont know what to do blink.gif
fr_dr
I mod a GRD-8163b too but unfortunattly, i don't know why, i was not able to flash the firmeware with the 8050 firmeware. So now my drive is working perfectly (and a way faster than any original xbox drive that i ever saw) with cdr and dvdr but not with original xbox game, obviously because of my firmware problem. Anyway, by doing this i notice that the VRCD<->grnd mod is very fast and easy to do, so i decided to do it on a 8050 LG drive that i had so it could read cd-r. I did it with a 1k ohm resistor that i took off an old broken DVD-ROM (i think they r called SMD). At first it worked flawlessly with cd-r butwas only loading dvdr 1/2 time. So i started to play NFSU2 (dvdr backup) to test the drive and it played ok for like 20 min, and then i got a ORANGE FLASHING LED ERROR, like if there was an overheating prob but the air comming out of the fan was very cold. I immediatly opened the xbox to check if anything as burned, but every thing was cold. I replace the dvd and hd in place to test it again. Now the best i can do before the xbox start to do this "overheating orange error" is to boot to exov and after 2-3 sec, the cpu temperature goes up by 1 ° and it shut off. And this problem defenitively come from this LG DVD because the xbox work perfectly with any other drive. blink.gif IS THIS MOD CAN BE DANGEROUS IN ANY WAY TO THE XBOX??? AND AM I THE ONLY WHO GOT THIS PROBLEM WITH THIS MOD?? blink.gif
fr_dr
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nachomans
I have similar problems..I´ve modded two LG, but in all the cases...all work perfectly for a half hour or less...then I get skipping in DVD video and DRE en xbox games....its an overheating problem or the LG drive itself....any ideas what can i do? huh.gif
brian886622
just wanted to let eveyone kno this drive kinda struggles to read games lol samsung is the best drive to get for the xbox .... this one comes with the forza bundle.....
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