So having problems with your new spider mod chip? Take a look and see if any of these has anything to do with you! Hope these help you out!

Xbox fragging?
When you install the spider you have to put 3 wires really close together, either those arent in the right order, or they are touching, to fix this check over the tutorial and see if your wires are in the right spots.

If Your wires are all in correctly, try covering the 3 wires that are really close with electrical tape, (or all of them its up to you) so there not touching, if any of the wires are touching, it WILL frag. hope this help you!!

If you have any other information about fixing spider mod chip problems, feel free to post them!!!

Now the wire is touching and now can't see any boot screen this is version 1.6 .
any help would much thanks you.
kevin

umm..just out of the top of my head..tried insulating the wires so they do NOT touch eachother?

You can just stick some smallish tape between them or even better pull off some insulation from one of the conductors in a telephone wire, cut fitting pieces and thread them onto each wire.

Im glad to inform any readers that my installation of Spider v1.0 on my 1.6b was sucessfull. Not without problems tho, I will explain what they where and how I solved them so any future spider chip users will have a heads up

First of all goto xbox-scenes version detector and verify which xbox you have.

The spider chip does not ship with a manual, but you can download both (install & flash intall) from www.spiderchip.com

My spiderchip was ordered 25 december and its a v1.0. The new ones are v1.1 which supposedly is supposed to be more friendly with 1.6b and have a better fastening screw.

So first of all, fasten the chip to the LCP. Here we run into the first problem, the screw that comes with the spider is usless, its is just too short and too thin. The one you are supposed to replace it with is however perfect.

2 spacers are supplied, use only 1 of them (you need a even longer screw to use both).
Place it below the chip, put the chip ontop and fasten it with your screw after making sure the pins on the chip is aligned with the LCP holes.

Now, on the 1.6 and 1.6b all 5 wires needs to be connected.
The solder points where the wires are connected on the chip are EXTREMELY fragile, bend them more than 3 times and they snap off like twigs. Two of mine did exactly this and I had to resolder them. If this should happen to you, and you have no solder experience go read a guide and practice before you try!

The easier order is to start with wire A. then B. Continue with D, E and finally C.

Before re-connecting your DVD-ROM and HDD, attach the power and AV cable and verify if the installation works. If you are using the supplied on/off switch, verify both modes. If the xbox will not boot but blinks red and no picture whilst the chip is switched on, re-check following:

1. Chip is algined with LCP. Alternativly press it slightly down with your finger and boot the xbox. If it starts fine now your fastening is not precise enough.
2. No wires are touching eachother.
3. Wires are in their correct holes.
4. Wires are not touching any other cirquit on the PCB.

If your spiderchip boots fine you should prevent the wires to pop out (they will do this very eaisly if you are to cough, breathe or generally look in its general direction ) Get a one of those cheapass hobby glueguns and apply some over each wire where they connect on the PCB.
Do not worry, this kind of glue gets very hard when it dries and is easy to peel off if you should run into any problems.

The spider comes with a cromwell flash bios, This is only a bios that enables you to flash the chip with a "real" one that will enable playing backups etc.
I flashed mine with Evox m8 plus 1.6 burned onto a dvd-rw.

After that I suggest the use of Slayer for evox dashboards, all kinds of utils and HDD upgrade ability.

There have been reports of users having 1.6 versions having laquer over the VIAs (connection holes), this was luckily not my case, but you really should check if you have this issue before you order this chip.

That is my experience so far with the spider chip, would I reccomend it to someone with no experience that wants a quick fix? No.

Well I know I need to flash the spider chip, but when I take the chip out completely of the xbox, and still can't boot from original bios. this is v.16 so how do I fix the Frag xbox.
thanks

Umm that does not sound right, were u able to flash it before? You must have done something to cause the fragging, or maybe you short-circuited something on the PCB while installing..... Check the connection area with a maginifying glass if you have one and look for any discrepancies.

I flashed my spiderchip and it said it was flashed completely (flashed with x2_4983.67). System rebooted and now it just turns on and off by itself. When I turn the chip off, the system will boot to its original bios no problem. How can I fix this?

apparently x2_4983.67 is not compatible with 1.6 or 1.6b.... you should have used Evox M8plus_16... that is the best as it works with 1.6 and 1.6b...

again I nearly made this mistake but with lots of reading and preparation I save myself the hassle but finding this out luckily... phew... looks like you will have to reflash the chip using a programmer now...

I too have installed the Spider and am having the non working box so long as the DO wire is connected. I have a V.1.0 box. Installed the chip. Experienced a lot of problems with getting the box to recognize the BIOS from CDRW. Grabbed the HD from my other modded box. Loaded the BIOS from C:. No problem showed update complete. Box re-booted itself and stayed off. Now when powering the box on it'll power up for 1 sec. Power off 1 sec, power up 1 sec, off 1 sec and then power back up and stay on with no display. I've tried both HD connection and standard AV connection. If I pull the DO wire the box will boot normally to the MS Dash. Any clue as to what this may be? DO I have a fragged chip?

I got a few v1.0 spiders and put them in 4 of my firends' xboxes.
I have a unique problem with the spider, which pretty much has to do with the thin screw given in the V1.0 spiders.

The chip does not stay in place on v1.6 boards.
I put the spider in 2 v1.3 xboxes and i haven't had a problem since.
I also put the spider in 2 v1.6 xboxes and they won't stay put.
Every 2-3 days, the v1.6 xboxes come back to me with the unreadalbe bios problem (on/off, on/off, on/red/green) and all i need to do is open the xboxes and re-position the chip.
Upon closer inspection, the last 2 pogo pins furthest from the screw hole on the spider seem to 'lift' from contact with the LPC on the main board.
If I don't screw down the spider enough, the board pivots around the screw and doesn't stay in contact with any LPC holes. And when I screw it down more, I get the lifting problem.
Is there anything I can do without getting different screws to secure the sipder?
I can't find adequate replacement screws.
Should I use some type of adhesive to secure the spider to the board?
Double-sided mounting tape? Hot glue?
Another friend suggested 'Shoe Goo'; bad idea?

still trying to find out if the spiderchip will work on 1.6b xboxes

try only using one washer and use the original screw that was on the board when you opened it... you can screw in fairly tight (I did) and its all fine and was very sturdy and set... so its washer first then chip and then original screw (in that order)...

If you look carefully, the alignment of the LPC holes and the hole with the screw if not correct. I had same problem like u. Since the alignment is incorrect, if you screw down, the chip would move away from the LPC holes.
I am waiting for an exchange for a different chip (not spiderchip).
I suggest that you don't use the screw, and just superglue.

I tried that. The original screw seem to be just as short as the one provided by the spider V1.0 just a bit thicker, and it's no good for V1.0-1.5 xboxes.because it'll force the chip to the left and out of alignment. But I have no problems with those xboxes and the spider, just the V1.6.


The screw/LPC hole alignment problem seems to only be apparent V1.0-V1.5 xboxes, and the 2 V1.3 xboxes I chipped have had no problems since install.
The V1.6 aligns almost perfectly. I say almost becuase it shouldn't be give me problems like the one described in my previous post.
Superglue? should I really put that on the pogo pins that seem to lift off the LPC?

can anyone tell me if the spiderchip will work on a 1.6b?

Did you read the spiderchip.com web site? Notice how there is not one person answering your question? This is because it's a stupid one.

The answer is YES. It clearly states in the product features on the spiderchip web site, and I quote: "Works on all models, regions (USA, JAP, PAL) versions 1.0 to 1.6b"

However the new rumor is that v1.1 is supposed to work better on the 1.6b. I've heard success and failure stories of all kinds, on all versions.

wow, just looking for the answer to a question, no need to get rude

I have read conflicting post that EVEN THOUGH the website says it works on 1.6 that it will not work on 1.6b

If you had bothered reading this post you would see that:

"Im glad to inform any readers that my installation of Spider v1.0 on my 1.6b was sucessfull. Not without problems tho, I will explain what they where and how I solved them so any future spider chip users will have a heads up"

Just want to make sure you understand why nobody answered after you asked 2 or 3 times.

The problem with the 1.6b is that the cromwell bios that comes on the chip can cause problems with display and lockups because of the memory issues on the 1.6b. For this reason, it has been a problem for many people. The evox M8 1.6 plus bios will work because i thas the memory fix for the 1.6b. The trick is getting it to flash. That's where the v1.1 spiderchip comes into play because it has a different bios flashed on it.

I don't have, nor have I ever even seen a 1.6 xbox, yet I still have this info. I searched a bit after posting last time, and found this information. Makes perfect sense to me.

Was not being rude... you were being flamed. Don't feel bad... We've all been there before.

i wanna get the spider mod chip but the holes it requires me to put the wires in are closed...does anyone have any info on this?

I have a 1.6 with a spider chip installed. No problems, but the chip starts fraging when i turn the chip off! Power on & off 3 times! I know this is'nt a major problem, but should'nt i be able to turn the chip off? Also which is the best bios m8_16 or M8plus_16?

The bios flashed to your chip is bad. Search around on how to flash this thing with the aladdin programmer, or a hot swap method.

Alright i just got my SPiderchip and im trying to install it in my V1.0 xbox.

Now im correct by saying the wire at the very top is the D wire since they said the D and E wires are inverted on the V1.1 chip which is the one i got. Yet im having a problem. When i turn on the box it turns off and turns on, 3 times. I know this is considered fragging. Now i get the blue light on the board so i guess my LCP or whatever points are in correct. So why is it that when i plug the wire in the box just keeps going off and on.

If someone could help me that would be GREATLY appreciated as i've been trying to figure this out for about 3 hours now.

Once again if you had bothered reading this post you would see this in my earlier reply that:

If the xbox will not boot but blinks red and no picture whilst the chip is switched on, re-check following:

1. Chip is algined with LCP. Alternativly press it slightly down with your finger and boot the xbox. If it starts fine now your fastening is not precise enough.
2. No wires are touching eachother.
3. Wires are in their correct holes.
4. Wires are not touching any other cirquit on the PCB.

O i got it to boot but only when i hold it down with my finger other then that when i slowly start to screw it in...it frags again.

There you go. Its pivoting because you screw it to thight and the backside of the chip rises and looses connection. Your options atm are to get a longer screw so that you can use both spacers (one above, one below) for a more firmer mount.

I am working on the best solution for making a spacer for the chip, something generic everyone can use to pin it down. Ill update this post once Ive come up with something feasible.

But what sux now is that the screw wont screw in. It seems the threads stripped

Get a fatter screw and make new threads

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I have a v1.6 XBOX and I purchased the spider chip. It installed fine and it took me some time to finally figure out how to flash the chip, but I was using the wrong type of disc. After realizing the mistake, I properly burned a disc to flash my chip. It recognized the disc, showed a bar filling up, (as if it were loading) and shut itself down. If I turn the chip off, my XBOX works fine, with the chip on, the power led of the chip and the green light on the ejected button, flash 3 times and shuts down. What can I do about this and if it is a quick fix, what needs to be done to prevent this from happening again.

Which bios did you flash it with?

evoxM8_plus.bin bios are without doubt the BEST bios for an xbox v1.6 and 1.6b so if u have a spiderchip and bought it for your 1.6 or 1.6b, dont go around asking what bios to use. if you have a 1.0-1.5, go ahead bug people all you want about what bios is the best. i recrommend the evoxM8.bin, it works flawlessly with all my older virsion xboxes ive modded.

i originally was going to ask a different question..cause my chip was fragging and no wires were touching or anything and i am also for sure they were in the right order..but like you said more than 3 bends and SNAP..they break which one of mine did..do i just solder it back to that lil hole?..

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I used the M8 BIOS. The lights flashing when turned on makes me think that it is looking for something, like the correct BIOS. I'm baffled, I wonder do I need to flash my chip again and I wonder, can I flash the chip again. I'm so close from it working but yet I am so far.

Which M8? You are aware that you have to use the M8 1.6+.....?

Yes, just solder the wire back onto the chip. If you have never soldered before I suggest practicing on some old PCB you have lying around with a thin wire. You do not want to mess this up

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No, I was not aware that I had to use 1.6+ M8. I really dont know which M8 I have either. I hope I'm not screwed. Is there any way that I could try to reflash the chip? In other words, what are my options at this point?

anyone konw the points on the new v1.1 spiderchip? the site doesnt even have the tutorial up yet

got it soldered and everything..still fragging

wow still fragging?? what bios did u use, and there r two common problems with spider mod chips. try to realing on the lpc, if thats not the problem, then try to see if the wires are touching anywhere, if they are, your chip WILL frag. well just throwing some ideas at you hope u fix it

WOW nice timing, i just got mine in the mail like 5 min ago!!!!

hey i have a xbox v1.0 and tryed installing the spiderchip v1.0 on it and it worked but then became loose and now the screw wont stay in. the original xbox screw wont even stay in. so anyway i wanted to install the chip using a pin header and was wondering if anyone knows how to do this with the spiderchip. I mean i can install the pin header in, but which way would i put the chip on top of the header so i can put the wires in the board? if that makes any sense please reply and let me know. i know this is a solderless chip and all but im having to go with the solder method.

was that directed towards me?..if so then i have flashed it yet..im stilling to install it..haha but i believe i was doing something wrong but i will retry in a sec

i had the same problem so i just used a piece of electrical tape and taped the end farthest from the screw down real tight use a long piece of tape and get someone to hold it in place as you tape.

yes installed one in my friends 1.6b box and flashed with customized m8 16 bios and haven't had any problems yet...

I did the same exact thing and it finally worked..

i got it working and everything..but i cant get it to stay down..the original screw stripped the xbox..so uh i used the hot glue gun..worked temp..came off anyone know what else to do?

i was pushing the wire in too much and one of them snapped, i have used soldering iron before, but do not think i am confident enough.

i am also not sure if i have the 1.1 or 1.0? i cant find it anywhere.? can someone help me please.

thanks.

When the installation of the spider mod chip v.1 was finsihed, it began to install the programs. When the program installation was almost finished the screen came up with a message that said "Programming Failed". Now the x-box won't even beggin to load the program again, the d was crossed with the e. I'm not exactly sure what to do. So if i could get a little help that would be greatly apreciated.

whoa.. i have no idea how to help you out.. where did you get your chip?

ok this is my situation:

i installed the chip, finally! and i am using the on/off switch. When the chip is on it boots up fine with evo x, but when i switch the chip off it flashes red and green and turns itself off? can someone help me, im not sure what i should do. Did one of the wires slip out of its spot?

another question, is it alright if i super glue the wires in the holes? they felt pretty unstable when i inserted them and i am worried.

thanks