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esc1
Period.

Who's with me? tongue.gif
ZeroTheHero
Who calls it a sport?
esc1
Well its on ESPN 24/7 and a lot of people playing it thinks it is. Other channels think its a sport too.
PantherHockey03
I have to disagree. I play nl hold em all the time. Mabe 2-3 times a week with my friends.

Poker requires skill. No luck is involved. You have to be able to read your opponent(s). I completely disagree with you. I say it is just as much of a sport as football is to most people. Try telling Doyle Brunson poker is not a sport. He's made a living off it. I take it you either just got a very, very bad beat or you just cant play.
thomes08
poker is a game not a sport. People make livings off a lot of different things and they're not sports. Many things require great skill and they're not a sport. I play texas hold em probably once a week, not that much but i've done it long enough to know that there is luck involed.

simple example: you have a pair of 10's.... you can't read whether that person has a pair of 9's or a pair of jacks. in cases like that there is a lot of luck, you can't deny it just because it's something you really like and actually do have skill in.

thomes08
PantherHockey03
Well any pocket pair b4 the flop, chances are unless you are a professional at reading people, you wont know. But after the flop, just watch the player. You get good reads. (just like you read a play in football)
ThaCrip
QUOTE(esc1 @ Jan 17 2005, 10:44 PM)
Period.

Who's with me?  tongue.gif
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i tottally agree ... people misuse the word "sport" alot nowadays to me REAL SPORTS are all the major sports like... NFL - NBA - NHL - MLB - SOCCER - GOLF (im sure theres a few i left out but these are pretty much it)... basically anything where theres alot of actuall body movement... i think u get my point.
celinedrules
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poker is a game not a sport
That doesn't make any sense. Football is a game too but its a sport. If you don't classify it as a "game", what would you call it? A sport perhaps?

The following was taking from dictionary.com. Look at definition number 3. I declare number 9 the best sport of all.

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sport  Audio pronunciation of "sport" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (spôrt, sprt)
n.

  1.
        1. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
        2. A particular form of this activity.
  2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
  3. An active pastime; recreation.
  4.
        1. Mockery; jest: He made sport of his own looks.
        2. An object of mockery, jest, or play: treated our interests as sport.
        3. A joking mood or attitude: She made the remark in sport.
  5.
        1. One known for the manner of one's acceptance of rules, especially of a game, or of a difficult situation: a poor sport.
        2. Informal. One who accepts rules or difficult situations well.
        3. Informal. A pleasant companion: was a real sport during the trip.
  6. Informal.
        1. A person who lives a jolly, extravagant life.
        2. A gambler at sporting events.
  7. Biology. An organism that shows a marked change from the normal type or parent stock, typically as a result of mutation.
  8. Maine. See summercater. See Regional Note at summercater.
  9. Obsolete. Amorous dalliance; lovemaking.
ThaCrip
celinedrules u actually think poker is a sport?

i still stand by what i said before... it dont matter what people define a sport as to me "REAL SPORTS" are things where u got alot of body movement/action etc.

poker takes skill to play but it is definately not a sport if u ask me... as it's all thinking there is NO action in it whatsoever.
PantherHockey03
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An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
Poker has rules and is competative.
thegame_evolution
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Well its on ESPN 24/7


huh??

how is this available???? on digital cable?? or is it a PC VOD service??
DuDeR MaN
well I've heard that chess is a sport in the past. And if chess is considered a sport than hell, poker is right up there with it.

that doesn't mean I agree with it, but hey.. I didn't define "sport", you can thank webster for that
quall
I think it is a sport.

Sports don't have to be athletic. Have you heard of "non-athletic" sports?
tRuTh1337
QUOTE(quall @ Feb 22 2005, 11:03 AM)
I think it is a sport.

Sports don't have to be athletic. Have you heard of "non-athletic" sports?
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Other than the special olympics no.
PantherHockey03
This is a thread COMPLETELY based on opinion. I guess it would be hard to determin whether it was a sport or not. Its just what you think it is.
gcskate27
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QUOTE(ThaCrip laugh.gif)
GOLF


if you think golf is a sport, why not pool? if pool, why not darts? if darts, why not chess? if chess, why not poker?

see where im going with this...
Ripasser
If poker is a sport then why is it not in the Olympics?

Sports are defined as physical activit (more than sitting on your ass at hours on end, with only the movements of your hands to fold your cards)

I can see it now, "Doyle Brunsen wins the Gold Medal in No Limit Hold 'Em "

good shit laugh.gif
gcskate27
there are many sports that arent in the olympics... would you define auto racing as a sport? what about american football for that matter.... neither are in the olympics... laugh.gif
ronetone
well i say poker is a sport, they show it on espn beerchug.gif
mamajo
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Feb 22 2005, 11:22 PM)
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QUOTE(ThaCrip laugh.gif)
GOLF


if you think golf is a sport, why not pool? if pool, why not darts? if darts, why not chess? if chess, why not poker?

see where im going with this...
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I certainly do, Golf is not a sport tongue.gif


QUOTE(ronetone @ Feb 23 2005, 03:30 PM)
well i say poker is a sport, they show it on espn  beerchug.gif
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So that means a spelling bee is a sport too?
Tony42077
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Feb 23 2005, 04:41 PM)
there are many sports that arent in the olympics... would you define auto racing as a sport? what about american football for that matter.... neither are in the olympics... laugh.gif
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I would love to see the the U.S. born NFL players against the rest of the worlds best, that would be entertaining rotfl.gif
grayman272002
OK people listen loud and clear. Poker is definitly a sprot. I have been playing for over a year and iit tkaes more skill than many other sports out there. YOu need to be wide awake analyzing every move an opneent makes. One mad move can cost you a lot of money. Poker now has one of the largest audiences in America and is one of the BEST sports on telivision. If it werent for poker i would not be able to be doing half the things i do today
shooptek
yer pathetic...all of you...poker can not possibly be a sport. Do you have to move in poker? didnt think so
ZeroTheHero
Pogs is a sport! one time I got 15 pogs in one hit with my super slammer!.......
myronc
i was on the varsity Uno team in college.
mr_chips
it isn't a matter of whether the game is a sport or not. It is a game. To some, it is a sport. "sport" cannot be defined properly here. Simply because it is all how it is percieved. A lame example: to a hair stylist, clipping is a sport.

And as someone mentioned previously, luck IS involved. It is hard to deny it. But poker also has other variables involved. Such as, skill (how well you hide your expressions and tells, making good moves, reading other players), WHO is playing, the number of people playing, your chipstack at any give time...there is countrless variables which can determine who wins the game. The same can be said of many sports.
All I'm saying is, Poker is a sport to some people.
xbox beat box
In poker, there is luck involved, yet very little in the popular game of no limit-holdem.
In no limit hold-em, it really doesnt matter what the cards are. It all depends on position and how you play your hand. If i have a 7-2 offsuit, and I make you believe I have AA......then would I not have AA?

The same 8 proffesionals make it too the final table at the WSOP every year, are these the luckiest people in the world? No, they have mad poker skills.


sport ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spôrt, sprt)
n.

Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
A particular form of this activity.


A phyical activity..check, call, bet, the act of thinking is physical....these are all physical activities.
Poker is governed by a set of rules...and is played competitively.

So by definition, poker is a sport.
Bitch at websters not me.




ZeroTheHero
QUOTE(xbox beat box @ Mar 7 2005, 08:29 AM)
A phyical activity..check, call, bet, the act of thinking is physical....these are all physical activities.
Poker is governed by a set of rules...and is played competitively.


So when will they have a Chess and Checkers sports hero jersey I can purchase?
Raver758
poker is a sport only a moron with no skills in poker would say such a thing.
gcskate27
QUOTE(ZeroTheHero @ Mar 6 2005, 08:41 PM)
Pogs is a sport! one time I got 15 pogs in one hit with my super slammer!.......
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alf's back bart! in pog form!

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LenteSubigo
I don't know if Poker should or shouldn't be called a sport. But there are alot of other competitions that I would remove from the sport category if you remove poker. Even if a competition is physical, some competitions just don't seem like they should be called sports.

Figure Skating
Louge & Bob Sledding
Swimming
Running
You get the picture.

These are all competitions, but they aren't really sports.

Sports should be physical.
Sports should be complex, and have lots of rules.

Running the 100 meter dash isn't a sport, but racing the datona 500 is a sport. Running 100 meters is simple, it is a simple speed competition. Racing the datona 500 is complex, it requires a team, a great driver, a great car, luck, physical endurance, mental toughness, alot of skill, and to follow alot of rules.

So my defination of sport is:
A direct and real time human competition of atleast a reasonably physical nature that is guided by a complex set of rules, and has a clear nonjudgmental goal.

With this definition, nothing would be a sport unless 2 or more oponents were competing at the same time. Also, no judge scored events would be termed "sports". So alot of the olimpic "sports" would really be olimpic events or competitions.


So, according to my dictionary, poker could be a sport under definition 3, but I like my definition better. Too bad language isn't black and white, too damn many grey areas.
xbox beat box
QUOTE(Raver758 @ Mar 7 2005, 10:30 PM)
poker is a sport only a moron with no skills in poker would say such a thing.
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Like I said ..Bitch at websters not me...thats what the dictionary says.

Me, I dont think its a sport at all. I think its a card game plain and simple.

"only a moron with no skills in poker would say such a thing"

Are you saying I have no poker skills?

When have you sat a poker table with me?

Only a dumb shit would say that.
gcskate27
QUOTE(LenteSubigo @ Mar 8 2005, 02:44 AM)
Running the 100 meter dash isn't a sport, but racing the datona 500 is a sport.  Running 100 meters is simple, it is a simple speed competition.  Racing the datona 500 is complex, it requires a team, a great driver, a great car, luck, physical endurance, mental toughness, alot of skill, and to follow alot of rules.


track and field isnt a sport but driving a car in a circle is? uhh.gif

closest motor vehicle 'sport' id even consider would be indy racing, not nascar where its 500 laps around an oval... rolleyes.gif
feflicker
Poker a sport? Whatever... blink.gif

Is UNO a sport? What about Go Fish? Solitaire? rotfl.gif
celinedrules
QUOTE(feflicker @ Mar 8 2005, 10:25 AM)
Is UNO a sport? What about Go Fish? Solitaire?  rotfl.gif
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Maybe if it was on ESPN.
xbox beat box
The WSOGF!

Welcome to the first annual World Series of Go Fish.


At a Casino not too far from me the Casino De Lac lemay in Quebec, they have the game (not sport) of WAR.

Thats right, I put $5 on the table, dealer fliped me a 7, he pulled a 10...I lost my
$5.

Casino War
mamajo
What intrigues me most is the most popular threads in the Pro Sports forum are about Poker and Paintball.
xbox beat box
Poker being in sports forums is a tad strange. Poker being popular in forums does not suprise me.

There is so much to discuss about poker.
Hand analysis being the big one. Bad beat stories and poker theory is quite popular as well. Thanks to televised events, poker has exploded onto pretty much every scene. Over the past 2 years I have played with 60 year olds, as well as 13 year olds.

LenteSubigo
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Mar 8 2005, 11:19 AM)
track and field isnt a sport but driving a car in a circle is?  uhh.gif

closest motor vehicle 'sport' id even consider would be indy racing, not nascar where its 500 laps around an oval... rolleyes.gif
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I like that you didn't take the time to read what I posted. I gave a reason why I think Nascar is a sport, and why track and field isn't, so unless you want to dispute my reasoning(my definition), you are just going to come off as a dumbass who can't read or argue a point effectivly.
gcskate27
ohh believe me i can argue a point... but your logic of "has to be complex and have alot of rules" isnt worth arguing...

*yeah, im the dumbass...
LenteSubigo
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Mar 8 2005, 03:41 PM)
ohh believe me i can argue a point... but your logic of "has to be complex and have alot of rules" isnt worth arguing...

*yeah, im the dumbass...
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If you don't like my definition, that is fine, but my definition is just as valid as any. There are no official definitions, and even those definitions listed in a dictionary are contridictory.

Under my definition it is much clearer what a sport is, and under that definition Nascar would be a sport, and track and field would not.

If you want to argue with me argue with the definition, say why you disagree with the definition.

Also, just because something isn't a sport that doesn't make it any less valuable or entertaining.

My revised definition: (just added the strategy part)
A direct and real time human competition of atleast a reasonably physical nature that is guided by a complex set of rules, involves strategy, and has a clear nonjudgmental goal.
celinedrules
QUOTE(LenteSubigo @ Mar 8 2005, 03:53 PM)
If you don't like my definition, that is fine, but my definition is just as valid as any.  There are no official definitions, and even those definitions listed in a dictionary are contridictory.

Under my definition it is much clearer what a sport is, and under that definition Nascar would be a sport, and track and field would not.

If you want to argue with me argue with the definition, say why you disagree with the definition.

Also, just because something isn't a sport that doesn't make it any less valuable or entertaining.

My revised definition: (just added the strategy part)
A direct and real time human competition of atleast a reasonably physical nature that is guided by a complex set of rules, involves strategy, and has a clear nonjudgmental goal.
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Just because it's your definition? That deosn't really make sense. If that was the case then we could make taking a piss a sport.
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So my defination of sport is:
A direct and real time human competition of atleast a reasonably physical nature that is guided by a complex set of rules, and has a clear nonjudgmental goal.



Here are the rules:

Pants must be down
Toilet bowl lid must be up
Piss must be contained inside the bowl or else your disqualified
The first one to fisnish pissing and flush the toilet wins
LenteSubigo
QUOTE(celinedrules @ Mar 8 2005, 06:05 PM)
Just because it's your definition? That deosn't really make sense. If that was the case then we could make taking a piss a sport.
Here are the rules:

Pants must be down
Toilet bowl lid must be up
Piss must be contained inside the bowl or else your disqualified
The first one to fisnish pissing and flush the toilet wins
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I dont think pissing would be conisdered a reasonable physical activity. Plus, I don't think many would consider it a competition. Also, where is the strategy?
celinedrules
Well you could make it competetive. You no when you go to the fair or amusement park they have those thing games where you shoot water at it and the thing rises. You could do the samething only w/ pissing. The more pressure that is applied the fatser it rises. By your definition that is competetive and physical (the power of your stream).

I'm not trying to my smart or disguisting I am just giving you an example.
LenteSubigo
QUOTE(celinedrules @ Mar 8 2005, 06:17 PM)
Well you could make it competetive. You no when you go to the fair or amusement park they have those thing games where you shoot water at it and the thing rises. You could do the samething only w/ pissing. The more pressure that is applied the fatser it rises.  By your definition that is competetive and physical (the power of your stream).

I'm not trying to my smart or disguisting I am just giving you an example.
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Well, just add some complex rules, and you just invented yourself a sport.

By the way, your "sport" also fits the dictionary.com definitions.

Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

or

An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

or

An active pastime; recreation


So, your arguement may be valid, but inorder to make a definition that would be as specifc as you want we would be working on a book.

My definition is alot more specific, but will all definitions, you will need to apply a little common sence.
DuDeR MaN
...i miss football season
chucko
Definitely not a sport. ESPN shows anything that gets ratings. The funniest part of Dodgeball is them cracking on ESPN with ESPN 8 "The Ocho" showing dodgeball tournaments and treating them like the super bowl.
Baner
QUOTE(gcskate27 @ Mar 8 2005, 01:19 PM)
track and field isnt a sport but driving a car in a circle is?  uhh.gif

closest motor vehicle 'sport' id even consider would be indy racing, not nascar where its 500 laps around an oval... rolleyes.gif
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Anyone catch the Busch series race on a road course in Mexico? Half the cars wrecked out of the race... the reason? They had to make right turns...

I like the change in the F1 races too. All races have to be done on one set of tires, racers are only given one spare tire. Should make the longer races more fun, no more pitting every 20 laps for new tires and a tank of gas. beerchug.gif
tr1p
If pokers not a sport than online competitive gaming isnt all you esports people

suckas


texas hold em rules
reidtheweed01
all the weak ass people who cant play football or basketball like to call it a sport because its the only thing they can do. Thats why half of the people on here call it a sport because they cant play a real sport.
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