i knew ms could never make anything bug free. xboxes hav problems os's have problems. it must suk being a company that has never had a perfect product. And also my friend has a 1.0 and he got a regular chord. was this a mistake?

Just got my PSU yesterday. Ive got a 1.0 box. Havent checked to see if it is indeed a foxlink, and if the joints are cracked. But youd think they would have taken more care than to do a crappy solder job on something that "serious"

So has anyone actually heard any reports of any xboxs catching on fire?

This whole power cable seems to be a huge mess.

I tend to agree that it is incredibly cynical of MS to attempt to do a fix instead of a recall.

One fact that interests me is that the fix has come into act now, however xboxs made since last year are not affected. This seems to suggest that M$ may have identified a potential problem some time ago, addressed this properly on new xboxs and then the lawyers and analysts only decided that fixing the rest and avoiding lawsuits was more cost effective recently.

This may explain M$ lame excuse for not replacing cables in india. 220v is pretty close to what i run in the UK, and 220v is used extensively in Europe, and my equipment works there fine. If the problem is indeed arcing over bad joints 220v vs 240v will make hardly any difference anyway, arcing will still happen! So it seems that M$ will not fix in india maybe because indian law does not protect it's citizens as thorughly as other countries (this is speculation, if n e one could shed some light i would be most interested)?

I hope to get a less loose cable in the post soon, perhaps i'm the lucky one, but this stinks to high heaven...

coz it has cold soldering, lousy soldering job.

Edit: Since no one notice so I repeated again. My PSU is DELTA and it did smoke and spark!
Either I'm extremely unlucky or it's not only Foxlink PSU has problem!

I KNEW IT!!!

I believe my v1.0 XBOX started having problems around August 2003. At first it wouldn't start, but if I rigged the power cord in a way it would. After having it spark, smoke and completely not work anymore, I decided to pop her open and BAM. I soldered EXACTLY where it shows in your picture. For some odd reason, those 2 spots seem to spark and eventually burn out the solder. In the end, I fixed the problem and ordered a mod chip since my box was open anyways!

I believe the problem begins with people jamming the power cord too hard in to the back of the XBOX and shaking the 2 soldering points OFF the board. This can be caused by frequent removal/plugging of the power cord, as well as leaving the power cord attached to the XBOX while transorting the XBOX in some sort of Backpack or travelling case... At least that's what did it for me.

The xbox that i have is from 2002, Europe / Thomson problem drive / PAL version 1.0
The PSU connector is mounted on two extra solder joints (see picture)..but i also got a new cord

Can anyone say class action lawsuit? This is BS...Anyone a Lawyer what are our rights? Can we Sue M$ class action style?

I don't know about anyone else, haven't read through the thread entirely yet, but my cable does not look anything like those pictured. My cable looks almost exactly like the cable that came with the xbox. Maybe they are sending different cables to people based on the version of their xbox?

I got my box in the mail today and it had the big clunker of a afi inside of it. This issue has me interested though, so I opened up my xbox and was sort of suprised to see that there was a DELTA psu inside of it.

The power plug also had a couple bolts holding it to the psu pcb, but I didn't remove the entire board to check the underside for the bad solder points. It seems that more than just foxlink owners are getting the "protection cord"...

v1.0 xbox mfg date 11-21-01
delta psu

I took pics of my xbox, the psu, and the protection cable if anybody wants to see them.

Crap, my xbox was made the day before yours; it also has a delta psu. Guess that means I'm likely getting the big ass power cord.

Considering some Delta PSU xbox owners are getting the big boy, I wonder if M$ have known about this for quite a long time?

Did they not bother keeping a track of what hardware went in what machine initially then, suddenly, found that one of the PSU's was breaking (perhaps one of their own test machines starting arcing) and so they decided to keep track of the PSU in case it became an issue, which it now has.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jcasey1067@s...lbum?.dir=/4a03

Here is my Yahoo photo gallery with my pics. You can clearly see the Delta psu in one of them and I also took some detail shots of the protection cord itself. The shots are all 5mp and ~2megs each.

This is from a thread on the offical xbox forums



power cord discussion

I also have two consoles, a 1.1 and a 1.3 that are manufactured seven months apart. Both have Delta PSU (two different models) Today one of the cables showed up and it has the 'boat anchor' in the middle, of course there is no indication as to which console it belongs to, and I wait anxiously to see what the next one will be.

EDIT: I'm in New Zealand which is 240v

I got my power cord replacement today and it doesn't look much different than the original cable....no GFI on it.

MSoft sent me a huge end beastly end for my new power cable and I just got finished opening up my v1.0 Xbox. I have Delta power supply. Hmm, well I also know this, when plugging in the cable, I get no sparks at all.
Just to get an idea of the average use I have for my Xbox, is typically I bring it to a friends house every-so-often, but not much.
Thought you guys would like to know.

Add this one to the list:
1.0 xbox, Delta PSU, solder joints broken off (hard to tell in pics below, but they're broken). Replaced the Delta with another 1.0 PSU from llamma.com about a year ago after the Delta had issues where sometimes it would power on and other times it wouldnt. (cant remember if the replacement was FoxLink or Delta, but looked identical to the old Delta one.)

In retrospect, I suppose i didn't have to pay the $30 or whatever for the replacement PSU. The old one was prob a-ok. Thank you MS. Anyone want a spare 1.0 delta PSU?

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I got my Power cord replacement today..and I recieved the fat one that a lot of people are getting.

I have a Early 1.1 XBOX w/ Delta PSU. I noticed when i plug my Power Cord in there is a slight pop, should I open my xbox up to see if the soldier points are busted? I have had no problem powering up the xbox and the new Power cord replacement showed the green LED so everything is good to go.

Still waiting on my cable, but I opened my XBOX anyhow to check what PSU it has in it...low and behold it is a foxlink, however my XBOX is a 1.2/1.3 from the 2003 holiday season (and mfg'ed summer 2003). I noticed someone else had a newer XBOX with a foxlink which was a "revision-H" model, whose joints looked fine. Mine is a "revision-B", however I haven't taken it out to check the joints yet (although it has never sparked or anything on me).

I've made another thread about the foxlink revisions, hoping those of you with foxlinks will enter what rev you have, and what XBOX rev you have (and if you had any problems/bad solder joints).

Also, I know it has been posted in this forum, but is anyone planning on making a repair tutorial for the foxlinks to put in the tutorials section of xbox-scene? Before I attempt any repair or prevention on my XBOX, I'd like something a bit more concrete (some of the posts in this thread contradict one another)...also it would be good reference for ppl in the future.

Thanks

Conundrum1911

i would like to say to the guy above...it is a concrete fact that the psu solder joints break on any version because even with the extra supports...why...the number 1 reason in my opinion is because idiots take there xbox over to there buddies house and are too lazy to take the cords outta the xbox... so what do they do? wrap the cords so tight around the xbox that they put an enormously huge strain on the solder joints... even on a box with extra supports...ive seen hundreds of idiots do this...if they didnt have such a huge gap on the box and the psu connecter there wouldnt be a problem...can anyone with a 1.6 tell me how tight the psu connecter is to the case...cause if i remember right they are tighter and that is why they wouldnt need a replacement

yer i agree with that. i know the 1.6's power cord is tight as.

i think you would have to be fucken lazy to not take the cord out when you move it. i would have thought it was a well known fact that if you bend a joint like that, it can and will break.
but i also think that some of the psu's need some soldering as well.

so its siz of one, half a dozen of the other

Im not sure if this is the case for everyone(im in aus), but when i got my cord the serial number of the xbox was on the address label. Just incase your wondering which cord belongs to which xbox.

same here. it shouldnt matter though should it?

I'm not sure how far this has come off topic, but I'd like to add my two cents if I may. I would agree about the "Power Cord Conspiracy" apporach (however conspiracy is a harsh word). I was confused when I heard about this recall. MS kept saying it was problems with the power cord being faulty. In my mind, I couldn't understand how a power cord, which is basically STRAIGHT THROUGH, could possibly be causing fires! I have inspected the power cables and they are probably of the best quality I have ever seen. Not only are they sturdy, but also made of fire-resistant plastic.
I guessed, but never came to the conclusion that the problem could actually be inside the xbox.
When MS decided to blow it's own horn in the press release about the recall, saying, "We did the responsible thing"... when supposedly millions of these cables are faulty, it was definately suspicious!
Lately I have been very upset with the way gates and Co. are running their own company. Like a bunch of lazy retards. First, Gates said in some statement, "windows does not need to make a bullt-in Anti-virus, there is plenty of great 3rd party software available" who does he think he is kidding?
Then, they released this new MS Ant-spyware. What a slap in the face to the whole windows userbase. Rather than admit the problem, they apply this bandaid (which they teased about making profit from) and now THIS "power cord" bandaid?? Sickening. MS was much more responsible when we had them in the courtrooms.

Yes you are correct. It's amazing what you miss when you're mavelling at your shiny new boat anchor

well fair enough

I was just confirming as azweel has pointed out, that the serial is on the address label and I completely missed it because the package is covered in so many damn numbers. My first cord to arrive is for my v1.1 (delta).

If I had Foxlink PSU's I would have checked and fixed them by now, but its frustrating not knowing what is going on with these Deltas. I want to fix the problem, not treat the symptom.

That's a damn good point! Probably the first thing your average Joe is going to do when his Xbox won't turn on is cast a suspicious eye at the complicated doofus-box MS insisted they use, and try another power cable, then get fried.

Hi,

I had to order 4 cords 3 for Pal Xbox 1.1's & 1 Pal Xbox 1.4.

As far as I know 2 1.1's are Delta Psu's & the 1.4 is a Delta Psu.

The 3 1.1's got the big blocks the 1.4 got a new standard cable.

Only the 1.4 is already faulty & only powers up 1 time out of about 25.

Hey guys, ... I was wondering ... 14 millions of xboxes with a PSU timebomb, ...
MS knowing that since several years, a power cord replacement that only prevent the cable to ignite, but what about the xbox? And if one of those sparkles instead of ignite the cable, set fire on any other thing that could be nearby?

Why don't we all sue MS

ass???



We had to let everybody know the truth, we need visibility, the Media should talk
about that! The biggest 'MShit' since Windows ME !!!!
We should have a new xbox for replacement not a silly power cable!
We are 14 millions! If we can spend 1$ each for suing MS, I think we can have
Robert Shapiro as our lawyer!!
You know, uncle Bill knows what is worse than a lawsuit: negative publicity, and
with the xbox2 to launch ....

So, who start to take subscriptions?

I had the privilige of fixing a bad PSU myself. My cousins fan was making noise and when i opened the box i noticed the sparks. I don't know that i would blame this all on the solder joints though. I would have to say that everytime i plug in a cord it seems like the connector is not mounted very solid. If they would have added a clip to keep the stress off of the solder joints I would be surprised if they had this many cases of broken solder joints causing sparks. But I definately would say the power cords are a fricken joke. When I first heard about the recall it just sounded so stupid I didn't realize there were that many cases of broken solder joints like my cousins 1.0.
Still the xbox is a much more reliable system then the PS2.

I can't believe the writer thinks he/she has a case on their hands. I just...I...I got nothin'.

I ordered 2 powercords, one for my 1.0, one for my 1.1. The 1.0 had a Delta PS and got a big clunker of a cable but my 1.1 has a Mineba power supply and got another boat anchor all the same. Now the mineba has extra reinforcements on the plug, and I checked the solder joints and they were fine and the reinforcements were strong as well. Maybe M$ just fudged up an the SN numbers.

i have been reading this thread for a while and trying to learn as mucb as possible about this whole "Power Cord Conspiracy"... and i have seen people order more then one cord from MS....... i was just wodnering how do you do that????... dont MS record all your order info. so people cant re order or something......????

I'm pretty sure the people ordering more than one cord have more than one Xbox.

I think it was pretty funny from that earlier post how someone had two Xboxes and received two different replacement cords. When asking MS which cord goes to which machine, they said it didn't matter. That obviously means that the cords are not the problem. I have a friend that just replaced his PSU for $30+. I am pissed for him that he had to spend that money because of MS's stupid ass.

Recieved the big fat cord today in the UK and 2 letters for some reason?

Had a quick look in the xbox and have a delta psu on a v1.0 made april 2002 i think. Psu makes a poping noise when plugging in the cable. No serial on the box aswell so if you ordered more than one in the UK theres no telling whats for what.

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ok you complain about this but need to realize something...all the hundreds of thousands of faulty psones and ps2s...u think sony will ever take responsibiliy and do a recall ...ever...hell no they are worse than MS...atleast MS is doing something....take one of the new ps2 systems...the small one and play it on vinyl and watch how hot it gets when it melts the vinyl and that is the least of the huge defects they have made

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Xbox v1.4 replacement power cord pictures

I wonder if people who did not send in their Xbox serial numbers to MS via product registration or Xbox Live get new power cords. MS did not know my serial number until I checked if I needed a new power cord.

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That sucks. I paid $7.00 for mine.

do these cords fix the 1.0/1.1 weak power supply problem?

OK if that is true and it is the foxlink power suplies I went and tried to get the cable Mine was made 12/2002 and it has a foxlink PS in it (how do I know....Im special ) and I was told I wasnt cool enough to get the big ass power surge protector. But I have a foxlink PS damnit I dont want my trailer to burn to the ground, or do I...............

No, not really.
-nB

And I thought it was just me! I had noticed my loose power connector and thought someone had switched power cords with me, but when i had it open to mod it i noticed the power connector was loose. Re-soldered with THICK solder and its been perfect ever since!

I have been having major hassles with getting the XBOX powered on and was having some nice arcing sounds happening. I have just opened up and resoldered the power connector. It seemed to help, but I am still having trouble booting it up most of the time. I think there maybe a fault further up in the power connector on the upper side of the PCB. The trouble is the first transformer on the board on the foxlink I have sits over the top of power connector making it very difficult to get out. I think I might just save the hassle and get a new power supply as they are reasonably cheap, but if the power supplys had better mounting on the connector this would never of happen MS!!

my cousin had the same problem with his psu, was sparking, was a foxlink, i resoldered the joint on it and it worked fine. atfirst i thought this was a scheme for them to get serial numbers so they can find out whos got modded xboxs when they get banned from live.

Just thought I would throw my two cents in here. Look at my Foxlink that I pulled out last night to fix. Look at how much the arcing burnt the underside of it, man that's ridiculous.

yeah, holy #$@!. Even that black plastic clip has snapped. Definately a fire hazard.
MS, why I oughta

I never thought of it like that but now I'm scared.

well by teh looks of that, with the soldering, i woudl say that it was a shit soldering job. its juist got a dry joint.
as for teh plastic, you must have been using some force to plug/unplug the cord. either that or putting a lot of force on it up/down

Just got my big ol' power replacement cord. But the problem is, I've got 2 Xbox'es. One was old, so I had to replace the powercord, but the other one is a spanking new Crystal. I might have switched the powercords of those two, so I've got a bit of a problem.

How can I identify the screwed up powercord from the one that came with my crystal? If I can't tell the difference, there is a 50-50 shot that I change the wrong cord and I'd still be using the one with the flaw.

Thanks a lot!