Hi, the whole power cord thing is crap in my eyes i have had 3 xbox all have been v1.0 & v1.1 they all suffered the solder problem and are now stuffed so puts me out of pocket which pissed me off alot . When are big companys like MS going to start telling the truth instead the copout crap they seem to like spining the public.
People affected should be get new xbox not a bandaid.
I am in New Zealand and micrsoft sent me a big bandaid in the form of the huge GFI thing.

Shame the US passed or is passing laws to limit class action lawsuits.. cause this would be an awesome candidate.

MS shipped consoles with substandard and dangerous power supplies.. and waits 3 years before trying to do a bandaid solution that won't fix the underlying problem. The units with those power supplies are still a hazard, and owners of old school consoles with them still run a risk just powering it on.

MS in their eternal "wisdom" decided to ship 2$ cables to bandaid the problem instead of doing the more costly and proper solution of a recall on the affected units, pay shipping both ways, and replace those old power supplies with ones that won't destroy the unit.

Will this happen.. I won't hold my breath.

Got mine today.. for a v1 and i got the ugly box one. the euro one looks way cooler







my cat managed to get into the last pic

im guessing i cant use freewebtown.com to host my pictures i got some spam message, so i hosted them somewhere else.

OK, in US, got one of the big clunkers for my Version 1.0 box. Delta PS, manufacture date of: June 1, 2002.

Someone a page or two back asked about the UL number on the clunker: E130151
Which (when looked up on ul.com) ends up at this page

Obviously m$ is lying! How could they justify sending different cords if the problem, as they say, is sustained overvoltage? How can that depend on manufacturers dates?

We should hold a competition, who has the worst Foxlink psu .

LOL!!!

soda came out my nose when I read M$'s "response"

So, here's MY response:



That is the most obvious LIE ive ever heard

Who are they trying to fool? We have definite PROOF that the foxlink 1.0/1.1 PSU's are defective (just look at the pages of replies from ppl with failed fox psu's). Also:

1. Failure rate on the delta and Mineba PSU's is substantially less then the foxlink (once again going by replies on this thread)

2. The fox PSU is the only one of the three that does not have any other bracing on the power connector than the 2 solder joints.

3. On the newer fox psu's (such as the one in my 1.4) the power connector now has extra bracing, showing that they DID recognize that it was a problem.



Bull. How come the xbox is so special that it needs this, when most other electrical equipment doesnt come with a cord like this? We all know damn well that it is to shut off the xbox when the power supply goes up in smoke.



So, why do some xboxes not need to be protected from this "sustained overvoltage". This once again proves that the cause of the recall was some problem with the older consoles that had been fixed, covered up, and ignored for three years.

Burn.

This is what I think M$ whould do:

They know which xboxes have the bad PSU's, because they send out power cords accordingly.

So, you type in your xbox's serial number, and they sond you a new Delta or Mineba power supply, with detailed installation instructions (for the dummies).

The affected consoles are already way out of warranty, so the user opening the xbox to replace the psu would be no problem.

How can we take legal action? Is there not grounds for a class action lawsuit? Someone earlier posted that here in the US we have passed or are passing laws to limit class action lawsuits, I am unaware of this fact but either way why don't we all get together and challenge M$ somehow?

Why don't we all go post pictures of the burnt Foxlink PSU's on xbox.com's forums. I bet we get banned for saying anything like that.

Does anyone with a 1.0 delta got a GFI Plug?

Did someone with a 1.2 or 1.3 and a foxlink psu get a GFI plug?

1. Yes, a few (best guess is that at first they didn't keep track of which brand PSU was in each box, then once this problem surfaced they started keeping track. So, the REALLY old xboxes, they dont know which brand PSU is in there, so they send a AFI to all of em.)

2. Don't know.

himm pics didn't work
well it was refurbsed in 2002
it has a delta logo on it not FoxFire
its a 1.0
it looks intirly difrent.
Do you think M$ knew then.

M$ is full of shit!! I have seen so many xboxes catch fire and fry it almost embarasses me to stick with the XBOX. Dont let them fool you either about this being a problem of the past. I have two brand new xboxes made Nov 2004 and Dec 2004 and both spark when I plug in the power cord.

Thank you for your fast reply.

Is there another use to this AFI(GFI?) Thing for the xbox other than shutting it off in case of a malfunction?

well, i just curious, i got a crystal white edition xbox, manufactured Aug 2004, it's Rev 1.6, so far no problem (yet) for me, my region 240v though,

i got 1 question, can i just purchase any other power for use with the xbox? as long as the connector is fit?

i assume the transformer stuff is inside the the PSU, just like a PC, we could just use any cable (eg morlex) as long as the connectors fit?

one of the power supplies that I have got from a broken xbox the joints in them were loose and when you wiggled them it sparked sometimes. I had another one laying around so I put that one in there. M$ lies like a mutha.

This is most definitely a problem with their soldering. I know this because it happened to me. My box started becoming really flaky and shutting off, then it started smoking and burning. I opened it up, and saw that the power connector on the PSU was loose and not soldered properly to the board. I resoldered it, and it was fixed.

I thought micr0s0ft wouldn't comment on rumors?

I just tried to order a replacement cable. but it says that my box in unaffected. I have an LE green from Feb 2004. The power cord looks exactly like the newer ones you guys are getting (without the big box). I have a foxlink PSU in mine and I think my version is a 1.4 or 1.5.

Has anyone else got the xbox not affected screen? I'm paranoid that this box will catch fire and if it does I hope it takes my fat bitch of a girlfriend with it.

i have another 1.4 with a delta psu (me have lots of xboxes, 6 i think, but one has a dead mobo), it said it was unaffected.

You should be fine, the newer foxlinks have the better reinforced power plug, its only thr 1.0/1.1 typw that have no support.

err...my question again, can i just purchase any standard power cord out there to use with xbox? coz mine original one is left somewhere in the hotel.

yeah, any powercord will work.

cool, thanks for the fast reply, i will do tat and i can start playing again....

I got my xbox when it came out in 2001 and had no problems with it and seen the power cord scare and ordered a replacement cord from xbox.com and a couple days later I traded in my old xbox for a new xbox made in 2005 and today I got my clunker of a cord. Is this problem fixed in the 2005 model xbox's or do I have to worry about it catching on fire because the power supply and I can still use the cord it came with it?

The 2005 xboxes will definitely not need a powercord replacement.

I had one made in dec. 2003 that said it didnt need one.

so there is nothing wrong with the power supply either and is it ok if it wiggles where the power cord connects to the xbox because i don't know if it's just me or if it seems kind of loose.

Also thanks for the fast reply.

Just wondering so nobody really said anything about this but...

If I do get a Protection Cord for the v1.1 box that uses the Delta PSU, should I require myself to use the Protection cord or be able to use the Original cord without the MS lie flying around my head?

Yah and then 5 min later they find out to open the xbx they need to use Torx Screwdriver, then 2 min later they read the xbx stickers on the bottom and become paranoid to open it, then 5 min later they reach the PSU, touch it idiotically and then kill themselves without saying their last words

Everyone with or has had this problem should all Sue the hell outta them!
It seems fine for microsort to sue people when they feel like screwing someone.

No way! This is the time to tell ur affected friends to mod/softmod their xbx's if they want a real fix lol j/k

did any of you even read this?

I have to disagree with this whole MS knowing which ones are faulty, I have a nice delta supply with no problems at all and MS sent me out the bulky reset replacement cord. My xbox was made Nov of 2001. They used so many manufacturers that their records can't determine which xbox has what in it and for security anyone who has a launch xbox or one a few builds after that got a reset cord. Even though these xboxes will probably never experience any power failures, MS isn't concerned about that, they want to make sure that when your xbox is plugged into a wall and theres a power outage that your machine is safe.. Yeah, Why would they even care? If I don't want to use a surge protector then its my machine I will be replacing. Nice to know that MS will replace it if something does happen down the road.

i too received the ugly power cord. ive checked my psu. its a delta one with nice clear solder joints. i still use my old cable. i think i will sell my new one on ebay

I had to repair a friends Power Supply over a year ago. The solder had melted and cracked on the contacts. The unit would arc whenever it was plugged in. I thought it was just due to the Molson Canadian he had spilled all into the unit, in a fit of rage over my total annihilation of his piss poor skills in HALO. Maybe I was wrong in assuming that apx. 4-6 oz. of quality lager was to blame for the malfunction of his fine gaming machine.

You see.... I'm becoming more off an adult every day. I just blamed it on the beer..... I should be ashamed of myself.


oKoAoMo

I got a bit of a speculated update for you mods n modders:


Unfortunatly it has been my experience that it is not only the foxlink PSU that has this problem. My box is a 1.0 from mexico, and it has a delta PSU. or rather it HAD a delta PSU. Solder points loose, i resoldered it, worked for a month, exploded (litterally, i think one of the capacitators blew). In any case, its all fixed now but i've learned something about these delta PSU's. There are at least two different versions, and one IS better than the other. About 1.5 CM into the box from the plug (where the power cord inserts) is a little box, dimentions approx 1.5X1X1 (cm, i've lived in canada for too long). The easiest way to tell what version of the PSU you have have is just the colour of the box. From my experience,

BEIGE or GREY = BAD, RESOLDER IMMEDIATLY


BLUE = no need to resolder.

I believe this to be true after working with several PSU's.


by the way, thanks to xtek69 for a "blue" delta:D

I resieved my power cord today and its that bulky thing but i have a xbox v1.1 with a delta psu. Are you people sure that its only a problem with the foxlink psu's and the solder joints???? Maybe there's something with the components.

i use the cable for my pc (big one).. it protects my pc better then ordinary cable ...
there's nothin wrong with xbox cables.. if solder points are bad inside the xbox, then it's gonna be a prob...

Can you give a picture of the boxes please ?

look at my pictures on page 19. i have the grey delta. but i have to say that those 2 solder joints look perfect. i cant give a closer picture because my camera sucks big time.

I have the same psu maybe i'll check the solder joints sometime. But i haven't got any problems before and when i travell with it i always unplug the powercord chould i use that bulky thing? I want to know what that powercord does is it a sort of fuse? Does somebody have a picture of the inside?

I guess I'm lucky, I have 2 Xbox 1.0:

Manu date: 2001-10-27 and 2002-07-16

and both are Delta Powersupply with still perfect join.

I tought all in 2001 were Foxy's one... Well I'm lucky.!

fredou

Your PC has the same power connector as an Xbox?

He's joking...

I guess if our xbox's psu's breakdown we can send them to micr0s0ft and get them fixed.

in replie to mirco-shit's replie , there is indeed a soldiering problem i myself had to resoldier the psu points mentioned in this thread the fact that they sit there and lie makes me want to punch bill gates in the goddam head

wow MS are such bullshitters. I have encountered the same soldering problem on 8 out of the 10 1.0-1.1 xboxes that I modded. They cant say that there is no problem with the soldering. Someone needs to call bullshit on them in court.

This description of the grey/blue delta only works to describe 110v supplies, as the 240v version is designed a little differently.

I think it would be better to describe them as the one and two capacitor versions.

just got my powercord in...its one of the "regular" ones (I live in Canada btw). Last weekend I opened up my 1.2/1.3 xbox to find a foxlink psu, however it did not look like the foxlinks posted in this thread (it had a reinforced plug similar to that of a delta), and the traces looked fine. Incase it helps anyone, my XBOX was from the 05 (China) plant with a mfg date of 2003-06-19 (one of the holiday tetris/clonewars bundles from the 2003 holiday season), and as for the foxlink, it said "rev B" on it.

Conundrum1911

yeah the rev B foxlinks are the better ones with the reinforced connectors

I got the AFI cord for my 1.0 (10/19/2001) box, and I just checked, it's a Delta. Solder joints look fine, so I'm gonna just throw the AFI cord in the corner.

I wondered why my Foxlink was like that too I just thought I was pulling the cord out too roughly I fixed this without knowing at all.

What causes the joints to break is the little plastic stay clips on the connector are originally secured to the PCB with some kind of crappy black adhesive.

Once the adhesive gives way the only thing holding the connector is the solder joints and they break when you pull the power cord out.

I took some super glue to secure the clips and then I repaired the broken solder joints.

This 1.0 I have has given me a major pain I already had one of the electrolytic capacitors spill its guts and blow on the mobo which made my room look like a crack house and gave me a bonus melting plastic aroma.

I replaced the mobo then for some reason the fan ground connector on the new mobo stopped working then the thing would overheat due to the fan not working so then I bought the 12v connector to run it off the HDD cable.

Do you think the PSU caused the mobo capacitor to blow and put me $70 in the hole??? Or is that just bad luck?