The PSU problem is NOT for just for the Foxlink PSUs. I have a 1.3 that broke, checked mine and there it was, but it had a Delta PSU! Mabye MS got lazy on soldering or quality.

I dunno about some people, but some have a 1.0, play it to the extreme, and they have that "1 in 10 000" fuck up.

MS is shit.

PS - They suck cause mine broke of that and they say it's my fault.

Losers...

just to add something: i have 2 boxes, a 1.4 and a 1.0 . i put in both serial numbers to get replacements, and it turns out only the 1.4 needed a new cord. but get this: the cord i got with my 1.0 and my 1.4 are the EXACT same: every single number on them are the same, down to the last digit. i whole-heartedly agree that the power cord replacement is a fraud, as the only thing my "replacement" grip has is a bigger edge for me to grab it.

The systems they use to determine the replacement cord needed, is probably not an exact science. I received one of two cords a couple of days after filling out the online form. Just the other day, I received the second cord all the way from the Netherlands. The problem is that I'm in New Zealand. The cord is completely different and completely useless. The Xbox in question was secondhand, so its hard to determine where it was first bought, but its more likely a clerical error and I'm sure people will be receiving the wrong replacements. It's probably just one big crapshoot.

HERE IS MY PROOF!!!!

I'm in the UK and I sent for the replacement power cord of which they sent me the more beefy standard one. So I assumed that must have the delta PSU however out of curriosity I checked and it turns out to be the foxlink PSU. So I removed the PSU to check the condition of the joints which are both ok. However one of them has gone a bit white around the solder joint(kinda powdery) and for as long as I can remeber, connecting the power cord creates a small arc and the crack noise to go with it on the same rail that has gone white on the circuit board. Coinsidence maybe?.... I have 2 other xboxs and neither of those do this. Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks.

Don't know if people have seen this or not but it's quite obvious by M$ it's not the power cords but the Xbox themselves. If you think obout it, it would be imposible to recall the actual Xbox consoles them selves and replace them. Otherwise M$ would lose there video game businees.

I got that same letter in the US and the key words in it are


By saying component failure it means to me that it is not the cord, just like this thread says. I just couldn't get over that gamespot article, hell it says it right in the letter from M$ that it wasn't the cable.

Just read a gamespot article called "MS recalls Xbox power cords" dated 17/02/05. They stated "electrical-component failures" and there's no where that states the cords as the problem. You can find the article here http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/02/17/news_6118722.html

I have a 1.3 with a delta psu and the power supply went out in it too....however I ordered one from liksing.com and about three days later that one went out too!!
I just went and bought two 1.6's so hopefully those won't go out!! DAMN YOU MICROSHAFT!!

That many power supply failures... I think maybe the problem is with the power itself dude.

Over the course of a few months, I went through 3 power supplies on my computer. I figured out that the power in my place sucks and that brownout/spikes were damaging the PSUs.

I got an electrical tester and sure enough, reversed polarity and no ground on the circuit my computer was plugged into. I found a good circuit and added a UPS - Ive had the same power supply for the last 3 years.

Would be cheaper for you to trouble shoot that then to keep buying xboxes and/or xbox PSUs I think.

Solid state electronics are less sensitive to bad power... so bad power/wiring is certainly less telling with regular electronics.

Well, OK, MS did seem to indicate it was some other prob in the xbox when they recalled the cords, but some article I found had a quote by ms saying that the power cords were "defective".

However, considering all the previous hints they gave at an internal problem, why the hell has the problem magically shifted to external factors like overvoltage? (betanews article)

Also, that 1 in 10000 failure rate is very off. So far, i've picked up that about 50-80% of these Foxlink 1.0 supplies have broken joints (and a small percentage of other brand/version supplies)

I just wanna give my own expeirence. I too have repaired one of my older 1.0 xboxes about a year ago. It was an xbox i mainly used for testing,etc so i would bring the xbox from downstairs up to my computer room quite often. Well i noticed the power cord would slide in loosely and eventually it began to produce sparks as i plugged in the power cord into the xbox.

Finally the xbox no longer would power on so i took a quick look at the underside of the xbox psu....sure enough there were two solder joints completly gone..with black "burned" rings around both of them. It was easily fixed by reapplying solder..i no longer have this xbox but just thought i'd give you my own experience on this issue.

TGD

Im from Australia and i also have a v1 with a foxlink PSU ,and guess what ?? same problem, solder joints have broken , the xbox was still working , I was wondering where the website or contact info was so i may order my new power lead
I sure hope the new lead is a good solderer to fix the soldering that has broken away
thanks

I found the link, I got 2 new leads on the way
one for the V1 dated 2002-01-04 with the Foxlink PSU
the other V3-V4 dates 2003-09-28 with a delta psu
how long does it take for the leads to reach people in australia??
thanks

Chaulk us up as one suspicious of MS's "defective power" replacement policy. We found bad PSU solder joints the cause for our Xbox power failures. There was more than one. The first failure was due to the power cord socket connection to the circuit board as so commonly described in these posts. The second failure, also involving solder joints, occured a couple of months later and was much harder to discover. Many of the solder joints for the heat sunk voltage regulators were loose and visibly oxidized. It took an inspection using a jewler's loupe to see that those solder joints looked different than the other joints. They were of a different color and exhibited hairline gaps at the regulator's leads. It looked liked the leads were not properly cleaned of oxidation prior to soldering. Removing the solder, abrasive cleaning and resoldering fixed the PSU. Xbox gaming use seems to involve almost constant hard drive activity. The hard drive use in combination with the CPU and the graphics CPU requires more than your average desktop power use, yet this Xbox PSU is puny. Now throw the typical user -- like our kids -- into the picture. They think nothing of operating the device on a rug, up against a wad of dirty laundry, or with some tossed item also covering up the xbox ventilation holes. It is a setup for overheating the PSU.

How much money did MS save omitting the bolts to secure that power cord connector to the box? Do they need any more cash? Sooner or later an Xbox is going to burn up someone's house. Our kids now know to turn off the Xbox when not using it, but they don't really do it for safety reasons. They do it because they associate PSU failure with leaving it on not in use.

I've had lots of faulty with the foxlink psu's & the dry joints.but today i got an early box in with a delta psu & the socket was not dry jointed but had one of the pins burnt out( & missing) & the other very badly scortched. but the supply board & the solder 100 % o.k. so there might be somthing yet in what m.s. has done. they might have two probs ! or more.?

First, I'd like to thank everybody invloved with this site! I usually find the answer to my problems and therefore I dont have to post too often!

I am having a problem with an xbox that uses a delta power supply. (V1.2) I have seen sparking from this xbox! It turned on, i left it on idle for about 2 hours, restarted it, and it hasnt turned on since. My friend was having similiar problems (this is his live box)

Can the xbox mobo be damaged or will replacing the PSU fix this problem?

Thanks everybody!

Here's my experience with the power cord. Went to the xbox web site, ordered it, got it (in Belgium), so far no problem.

But the power cord just didn't work. It was blinking red then got green, and the test switch made it blink red then shut it off. While the power led was always off.
Those aren't even explained in the manual (blinking red then getting green?)


Anyway, I then entered the customer support loop. That is, I was send from 1 customer support # to another, usually to end up in an automatic # explaining me how to GET my power cord mailed.
Basically their french-speaking customer support just didn't know shit about the cord replacement, and made me enter their loop until I gave up. And emailing them gave me a nice 'you should phone-call instead' back

Back to the old cord now.. just hoping it won't fry. Problem is that, meanwhile, I've messed with the power cord, removing it and plugging it back several times. From what I've read here, it could be the cause of the problem, and I wouldn't have done that if M$ hadn't bored me with their stupid letter in the first place.

Just thank god M$ doesn't make cars. I can see it now:

"Yes, there have been reports of our cars catching fire, so we're sending all our customers a free fire extinguisher and a bottle of water!"

or

"we know the airbags sometimes don't deploy normally, so you must tape this pillow to the steering wheel, and keep it there at all times!"

Hell yes.

How are you supposed to take out ths PSU *I think thats what its called* because I looked at it, and looked liked it was.. well dont really know, I didnt see any screws or anything

there are 2 screws holding the psu down

maybe I wasnt looking for screws.. I dont remember it was late when I opened her up, what kind of screw driver does it need?

I would like to know this as well. I have a 1.0 xbox, which was recently replaced with a 1.6 mobo. It has a SmartXX Chip and i'm using the power cord it came with.

What can happen to it?

Read this whole thread

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EE...FuEPfcZdkPo.php

It's only a matter of time now before someone get seriously hurt.

THE KID BETTER BE GETTING A FREE XENON !!!!


WELL, IF IT WAS ME I WOULD DEMAND ONE!!!!!!!!!

Hell they probably made him pay to ship them the broken console. Greedy suckers.

A mi esto me parece un pedazo de fake... no petaban sin el cable de remplazo, y ahora van y petan con él. dejaros de historias

probably it will burn.

What happend to the kid in the Swedish news article is almost what happened to me. I have a 1.1 XBOX and when I plugged in the new power cord there were a few orange sparks that came out of the place where you plug the power cord in. I was about to watch a DVD. After the box had been on for about 30 seconds and I had just got the DVD started, the box shut off. I opened the top cover and everything was really hot inside! I plugged in the old power cord and booted up Avalaunch and looked at the temp... within the next minute, the temp dropped about 20-30 degrees. The new powercord almost fried my XBOX!

i foresee M$ gettin sued. and yet i am still lost y they hav not been sued yet as well, i mean any1 of those ppl in the news article had full right to sue m$ for selling then a dangours unit. me prays mine starts to spark (i could use the case )

It's only a matter if time before more people realize that the replacement cord is doing nothing to prevent them from being burned/shocked

ok, i have a question, i have a new 1.6 xbox, well not 1.6b... anyways, i have a new power cord using from my old box, i have the big clunky one, will it hurt my xbox or can it cause any damage?

Common sense says that it should work, but one user reported that it made his console overheat.

So, i'd stay with the normal power cord.

cool, thanks man...

it would be cool if ms would end up saying you could trade in your system for half price or whatever for the new xbox... but they'll end up doing nothing about it

not true... I bought a 2003 holiday bundle in late April 2004 and there's still warranty left... they gave me their dec 2002 units.

This shits gone on long enough with those new stories. Its bad publicity for xbox and ms and its only a matter of time before its not an injury but a fatality.

-BxN

Idk if MS is taking in statistics or anything about this quote unquote "1 in 10,000 catch fire" but if they are does anyone have a link to the place to report this. My foxlink sparked and smoked and almost caught fire when i brought it over to my friends house. I shut it off and turned it back on and got sparks. I opened the box up and noticed the two solder points on the PSU were severely damaged. I resoldered the points and the PSU has worked fine ever since. I also resoldered my friends PSU when he had the same problem.

well, that 1 in 10000 thing is probably only the ppl that called and reported that their console did this. For a lot of us modders, something like this happens, and we fix it, not bothering to contact ms or anybody.

That's how I got into xbox modding a year ago, my xbox's harddrive crapped out and the only way to fix it (since I didnt have the eeprom) was to install a modchip.

My friends xbox, a long time ago, about a month after he got it did something odd. We decided to play over at my house one weekend, after getting everything ready, it wouldnt boot on, we couldn't figure anything out! No sparks, no nothing!

I decided to lift the xbox up, I then caught the smell of burning plastic, a hole right through the xbox! I looked into the xbox, I saw 2 solder points, both burnt and black.


These powercords do nothing!

M$ Should fix the real deal, it might even cost less then the money they may need to pay when they get sued because of some little 5 year old kid going blind after playing around.

This is not related to one type of power supply. I have the Delta power supply and started getting sparks internally near the power cord connection 2 weeks ago. Today my xbox would no longer power up so I decided to do a search and foud this string. I then opened the box up and found one of the AC in solder joints completely burnt. The solder was completely burnt off and the pin was doing the hula the printed wire board. The other pin seems fine but the two anchor pins also show cracks all the way arround them. I would have to conclude that this is simply a bad design by MS. They could fix this by making use f the mechanical stress releaf provided by the maker of the power supply. What MS should have done was to use the screw holes on the female receptacle of the power supply and bolted the connector to the back of the xbox. I may try and add images of the burnt solder joint. Their in my camera phone right now. For now I have to wait until Monday to fix thing at work.

AGREED...... somebody should really do something about this problem.......i am pretty sure MS knows about this.............but they just dont want to confess and accept all the law suits from practicly every person that owns a xbox.............

spelling correction.........sorry

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EE...ullJZVKcYLs.php

Yes, a big blob is not the fix. The break is because of the tin properties.

The way to fix it is to remove as much of the solder as possible, use a thin copper wire and wind so much of it around the pins (one at a time) so that it covers the soldering island on the board. Push it so that it comes in mechanical contact with the solering island. Then solder it. This way the thin is not bridging any distance, and will be much stronger.

The basic idea is to think of the solder as a glue, not a filler.

I had my Xbox blow up on me and actually catch on fire and burn the carpet and the xbox 2 months ago it wouldnt power on after that. I recently seen the bulliten and called MS tech support they asked me a bunch of questions like they where reading from a list as to whether or not anyone got hurt and the damage done so on and what do you know they sent me a box the very next day via UPS
to put the xbox in I got a brand new refurbished Xbox 3 days later with a Sammy even, the weird part about it is I had taken it apart 50 million times and I thought for sure they werent gonna give me a new one they did though after all it was their fault and not do to a mod chip screwup (even though they could of used that excuse) All in all it didnt cost me a penny and I got a brand new xbox.

P.S. I opened it up and it was a Delta that burned on the bottom second solder point same as where you guys are saying foxlink are bad I think its both, damn my carpet and xbox was on fire omg.

I have had big problems recently with my v1.2 PAL (Translucent Green) with Foxlink PSU. Went to plug it in a little while ago, and instead of the usual small crackling noise, there was a big flash behind the machine. I took the PSU out shortly after, and realised that around one of the pins, half of the solder had blown off.
I fixed it, but then I got one of the Standard cables through for it

I had to repair the solder on the powersupply also! It was a 1.0 board w/ shart tsop. It wasn't that hard but the common lil gamer kid would not be able to do such a daunting task... I hope nobody's house burns down because of a faulty xbox power supply.

I checked my european Xbox 1.0 today. The PSU looks completely fine, it is a Delta PSU, no need to fix anything! Some sources say the very first Xbox 1.0 consoles don't suffer from this problem, but the newer 1.0/1.1 Xbox consoles seem to have trouble. My Xbox is from February 22 2002 which is a really early European release. I would like to know manufacturer dates of the consoles suffering from the problem. I don't have to worry about my Xbox, but I am using the Power Cord because it is longer

For me, the only thing to worry about is to replace my GPU fan, because it is old and making lots of noise