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inuyasha44720
I've had two xbox power supplies go bad. Just had to resolder and glue, pain in the ass.
networkBoy
QUOTE(digiblur @ Feb 24 2005, 12:56 AM)
Hope that's not your site in the signature... advertising piracy, eh?

Not to mention:
Option #1 Extra Xbox Games
Includes:
-One Retail Xbox game not listed on games page.
-OR substitute game not listed as one of 30 from package for $5.
-(Space permitting.)
-Price: $7 each
-Time: 1-7 days


Selling pirated games. Dude, you're not that bright.
-nB
ruciz
I knew there was nothing wrong with the cords, as they work in every device that uses the 'figure 8' cords. I will have to take mine apart now and check out that joint, have to tell the friends about it too. I wish they would have made it veritcally, the huge adapter won't like my power bar.
FoxRacR17
QUOTE(chadkeck @ Feb 24 2005, 12:38 AM)
Ummmm... I live in North America and I just received a regular-looking power cord.

Is this right?  Looks like the adapter's on the front page of XS had an AC adapter plug into the wall?
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He was quick to remove that website, not the brightest thing to sell pirated games. And to advertise it on the internet! Thats pretty much like inviting the FBI over for beer and pretzle's.
randygbk
yep, I think you all are right on the money. I experienced the same problem with the arcing and the broken solder points. I opened it up and did some newbie soldering and it seems to be holding fine. I used to take my xbox everywhere including to and from work so I had alot of unplugging going on.

Hopefully enough controversy can be stirred up by this because I think alot of mainstream people have had their Xboxes fail and just gave up on them or got new ones because of this. The fact that they would try and cover it up is surprising, but out of all 5 of my original friends with a 1.0 Xbox, only 2 have not had the broken connections. I wonder what the actual percentage of all Xboxes in the marketplace exhibiting this problem is?
fantom_kode
IS there more to this than meets the eye? YES!!! M$ knows that half of all modders in the scene have 1.0 - 1.1's! There is a secret device inside the GFI that will activate exactly 72 hours after you install it! IT WILL FRY YOUR MOD! AND RAPE YOUR DOG! All is not lost, however. There is still time! Loose the machines of war, let fall the shroud of peace and all will be plunged into the eternal light the flame’s glorious salvation! The time for peace has ended! Now is the time to make war, my brothers and sisters! Rise up to quell the unholy infestation that pollutes the earth with its stench! Rise up brethren, and claim victory! We will burn its unholy walls and machinations of evil, and on its foundations we will pour the molten fire of truth! Leave not one standing, my children, all of its dark servants must be pulled into the light of truth! If they resist you, you must cleanse the earth of their presence in holy fire! The end of its tyrannical, fascist rule is nigh, and we, brethren, are the devices of its damnation! We shall cast it and all those loyal to its lies into the deepest pit of hell! The Day of Judgment is at hand, and they must answer for their crimes! MS will burn! muhaha.gif


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But seriously, it was only a matter of time. I have the Foxlink PSU in my box, and it has exactly the same problem. I should prolly go fix it now.... I am worried about the device in the GFI, tho....
FoxRacR17
QUOTE(fantom_kode @ Feb 24 2005, 01:31 AM)
IS there more to this than meets the eye?  YES!!!  M$ knows that half of all modders in the scene have 1.0 - 1.1's! There is a secret device inside the GFI that will activate exactly 72 hours after you install it!  IT WILL  FRY YOUR MOD!  AND RAPE YOUR DOG!  All is not lost, however. There is still time! Loose the machines of war, let fall the shroud of peace and all will be plunged into the eternal light the flame’s glorious salvation! The time for peace has ended! Now is the time to make war, my brothers and sisters! Rise up to quell the unholy infestation that pollutes the earth with its stench! Rise up brethren, and claim victory! We will burn its unholy walls and machinations of evil, and on its foundations we will pour the molten fire of truth! Leave not one standing, my children, all of its dark servants must be pulled into the light of truth! If they resist you, you must cleanse the earth of their presence in holy fire! The end of its tyrannical, fascist rule is nigh, and we, brethren, are the devices of its damnation! We shall cast it and all those loyal to its lies into the deepest pit of hell! The Day of Judgment is at hand, and they must answer for their crimes! MS will burn! muhaha.gif
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! you have some mind brotha
pagancow
I'm not sure why everybody is complaing that MS is ripping off people, These are much more expensive to make than the regular power cord, and they are giving them away for FREE.

My 1.0 Powersupply mainboard did crack and was sparking because of a weak solder. I re-soldered it but it could still break again easly.

The new powercord slides right inside the connector and isn't nearly as tight as the cord that came with it. It also has a fuse, which the board originally didn't. This _DOES_ fix the problems that would occur to an xbox that isn't damaged from people mashing power cords straight into the system.

Honestly people shoud be a little more careful with these electronics. Jamming cables into a socket repetetly will eventually break it. Of course the really tight power cable didn't help.

me_007x
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  I'm not sure why everybody is complaing that MS is ripping off people, These are much more expensive to make than the regular power cord, and they are giving them away for FREE.


But cheaper than replacing all the xbox's that are effected. smile.gif
Also cheaper that a law suit smile.gif smile.gif
THDVL
Yeah I just got the big klunker of a powercord in the mail... It fits very loosly into the wall socket and also the surge protector, but nice and snugg in the box. Pretty crappy deal the way I see it, but maybe it will stop my apt from goin up in flames laugh.gif
Guess I'll open it up and see if I need to take further action and solder the damn thing.. I would hate to have my xbox fry. It would be a terrible loss...
Xb0XmAn
I had the same problem on my green LE xbox.. the XBOX gave me a really bad smell and sparky noises so I decided to take out the PSU, then I saw the bad joints and resoldered them

Its fine now, and I seriously doubted the powercord story.. I mean what can u manufacter wrong on an powercable?? dry.gif
majik655
Just wanted to agree with the main thread..

I agree it is the power supply..I have "fixed" many of these power supplies as I am sure alot of other people have.

I am glad it has been pointed out!
pagancow
QUOTE(me_007x @ Feb 24 2005, 01:37 AM)
But cheaper than replacing all the xbox's that are effected. smile.gif
Also cheaper that a law suit  smile.gif  smile.gif
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False, MS has enough money to counter any lawsuit, except monopoly lawsuits for windows.

MS Hardware has always based themselves on good service. I've had many perheriferals BREAK, and MS just sent me a brand new one after recieving my serial number. That means that once you buy one mouse, one keyboard you could easly get two with that method, but that is just how they do business. (It helps having a huge pool of money)

The fact is that Unlike SONY who just says "buy a new one" they at least did something! Even if it is a quick fix.

tylerlough
See what happens when you get add to the XS news page you get about 4 pages of post. I just checked mine it was made on 10/31/01 or 31/10/01 for outsiders biggrin.gif or maybe the U.S. is the outsider, and it is a delta, no damage here but 2 cords are better than one. If M$ has something for free I take it.
MrPike
I just checked my 1.0 box with a Foxlink PSU. The solder points were okay, but I refreshed them anyway. And I think that GFI thing will go right into the closet.

Anyway, I wonder if MS will ever make a statement on this issue... ph34r.gif
xboxjojo
I had a feeling that this is what it was. I used to always have problems with the cord when I plugged it into thee power supply. One day the box wouldn't turn on any more so I opened it up and saw that those joints on the supply where somewhat loose. Resolderd them and everything is running fine now.
me_007x
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I've had many perheriferals BREAK, and MS just sent me a brand new one after recieving my serial number.


I wonder... Since the big ass thing doesn't actually cure the problem it only stops the xbox catching fire (I admit I am going on what other people have said in this forum) if someone was to get one of these protector plugs, connect up their xbox and then find their xbox didn't work, or it packed up a few days later, would M$ replace the xbox (obviously assuming xbox is completely stock)?

Edit

Someone has already mentioned this on page 2
QUOTE
think I will call M$ when I get the AFI cord and tell them
"you sent me this new cord and now it keeps reseting the red button,
i think it is defective and i will have to use the old cord untill i get a new one "
and see what they say...
maybe they will send a new xbox smile.gif


Sorry, forgot.
ruli00
QUOTE(tylerlough @ Feb 23 2005, 07:49 PM)
See what happens when you get add to the XS news page you get about 4 pages of post.  I just checked mine it was made on 10/31/01 or 31/10/01 for outsiders biggrin.gif or maybe the U.S. is the outsider, and it is a delta, no damage here but 2 cords are better than one.  If M$ has something for free I take it.
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Could'nt have said it better. The way I see it is now I have an extra power cord for when I take my xbox with me places. I don't have to unplug my main one. biggrin.gif
Hey a "fire hazard power cord" is better than the platstation power cord that I dremeled to make it fit in my xbox.
garyopa
I run a small repair shop. And I fixed dozens and dozens of early XBOX's with
the bad joints on the PSU.

Some later XBOX's I found also have a bad LARGE CAP near back of PSU just before the AC plug.

---------------------------

So with m new GFI cord, an I now play LIVE near the swimming pool outside,
and if water falls on the XBOX, I will not use an XBOX or get one very large
SHOCK thru the controller in my hand?

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But seriously, that moment I saw the 11pm news regarding the XBOX power
cord, I knew for a fact that it was to "cover-up" the bad workshipment in
their PSU boards.

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But now, the NEW problem, my wall socket is very old in my apt., and this
new HEAVY power cable, has a habit on parting falling out if the kids are
jumping around the room, this could in the end cause more real FIRE
problems for MS then the original problem. ----------- I remember a case
in the early 80's regarding HEAVY power packs for one of the first home
computer systems, and the company was forced to recall all the cables
and replace them with a two part system.
PreciousRoi
Damn, is that all it is about....I thought everyone resoldered that POS a long time ago....I thought it was something serious, of course this is something that anyone with an affected box who moves it around a lot (I suspect the physical strain on the connector from plugging, unplugging the power cable is the actual cause of the broken connections) has already had to deal with.

As to technique, the correct amount of solder helps, but the most important thing is ensuring that the entire joint melts and cools uniformly. Using an excessive amount of solder is not a "sure fix", and completely removing all the old solder, then replacing it with new is just being anal.
yaazz
My power cord is like fucked up.... sometimes when you plug it in, it doesnt get a good enough connection unless you like tilt the connector up. Hard to explain, but I just wrapped the cord around the xbox to keep it tight and it doesnt turn off randomly anymore, do I have a fuxx0red psu?
ruciz
I tore apart my version 1.0 and it has a delta supply. no problems.. waiting to see what cord/adapter I get.
ncoop23
just looked at mine it is really old oct 31 2002 and it is a 1.0 but i have a delta weird isn't it
ncoop23@gmail.com
ruciz
mine is dec 15th 2001.. even older, the the 2nd build after launch pretty much and it has a nice looking delta. no problems on that supply at all. Wonder if they will send us out the reset cord or the standard figure 8 wire.
rolly poly
i discovered this on my 1.0 box about a year after i bought it. i always brought my xbox with me to play halo with my uncool non xbox having friends, and the tight power cord meant alot of forceful connections / diconnects.

i knew it was a problem when i started to hear it spark, it took about 6 months to get bad enough to cause a shutdown. i knew the problem b/c of the sound and resoldered it.

i have since done this for my brother and a friend with older xboxes, somewhere along the line i lost my 1.0 cord, and i don't move my xbox as much, i have 3 of them and more ppl own atleast one. so i haven't seen the problem again.

like alot of you i figured this was the cause of the "recall". i also realized that it was pretty lame of MS to allow the product to continue to break, however slightly safer, when the ppl with affected boxes generally payed the most for them.
DuckOfDeath
Just got my 3 in the mail today. Two were the big GFI suckers, and one was a standard cable. I opened up my xboxes, and, sure enough, two of them had the foxlink psu, and one had a delta.

Looks to me like this theory is correct.

-Duck!
anticrap1234
i just remembered a few weeks ago my version 1.3 xbox sparked when i was playin mercenaries. my friend said he saw the xbox spark i just saw the tv screen picture dissipear then come back on. so 1.3 xboxes may hav needed some kind of fix also. and the chord might hav had something to do with it my power suply has no damage
madcapfrog
Hi i wanna ask another thing?

I bought my Xbox in france when i was in holiday and im using it at turkey.None of the powercord replacement webpages include the adress for my country.

Because of Ms dont sell the boxes in turkey officially.So im ready for fire hazard sad.gif

My xbox date : 2003 / 05 / 27 and i think it is a 1.4 versiyon.

So i just bought from a store a powercord for an ordinary Amplifier, wich include the round part like exactly exist in my original cord also. (i think its a filter for electric parazite is that true?)

Can i use it in my xbox?Or is that cord can cause a problem ?

Sorry for my poor english sad.gif
G0t M4xx 21
That power cord should work fine, Ive been using one for a printer in my xbox for a while, I lost the original one.

Also, just something funny, when I got my first xbox (like a week after launch), it didn't come with a power cord! They just forgot it or something.
Then the dvd drive broke, it was replaced under warranty (with another 1.0), then the dvd drive broke again (it was a phillips this time), but it was like a week after the warranty went out. So I took it apart and fixed the drive, but then the HDD died. I tried to mod it to replace the drive, but just screwed it up. So i got a new xbox (a 1.4), modded it, and its been great ever since!

NooberTehGod
About a year after I got my v1.0 xbox, it started shutting off for no reason, and non coming on sometimes, etc. I always assumed it was probably a power supply issue, but it was never more than an inconvenience, so I never took the time to fix it.

I'm so happy someone posted about the resoldering the connector. It was driving me crazy for a while there, I thought I'd messed something up. I hope thats my problem.
Spider-One
After reading the news post on the main page I put two and two together. I too had the loose solder connections. And with a bit of sparking every so often. Never thought that's what they were referring to in the recall (even though it's not really what they said.) Once I realized what was causing my box to shutdown and spark, I opened it up and fixed up the solder points(this was months before the recall.) So now it works fine. I'm guessing this happens when the power cord is inserted/taken out several times, causing the solder to loosen. Someone probably already said this, but I was too lazy to read the posts.
ferrari_rulz_02
well i have a 1.1, and the power cord gets unplugged and plugged back in every few days. i havent had a problem with mine, and the solder is ok. it is a foxlink psu
s00pcan
I just got an identical power cord for my v1.1 xbox.. but it's still useful. My old cord was loose and would pop and sizzle every time I plugged it in! blink.gif This new one fixed that.. so I guess it's not completely pointless.
ShihoNage
I ordered 3 cables for 3 different boxes. I got 'em all today. One had the GFI, the other 2 were just normal cords, for what it's worth.
sha
I ment to write up a post for a fix on this. Its pretty easy to take the power supply out and just use sand paper to scar the bare metal then just add some flux and resolder it. When it moves in and out it arces and can cause a spark so it jsut needs to braced better and adding allot of solder will do the trick.
kramp
I have a v1.5 (2003-23-10) which needs a new power chord according to the serialnumber-check ...thingy. I often hear a sparking sound when i unplug it, the psu is a Foxlink but the solderpoints looks fine.
xman954
it is not a GFI
this M$ way of not having to replace your xbox ...
is this right or wrong only time will tell.....
can any one look at there cord and see what UL number it has

this is from the UL site
Arc Fault Circuit Interrupters (AFCIs)
AFCI's involve a technology that detects arcing-faults in electrical circuits that could cause fires. By recognizing characteristics unique to arcing and functioning to de-energize the circuit when an arc-fault is detected, AFCI's further reduce the risk of fire beyond the scope of conventional fuses and circuit breakers.

Effective January 1, 2002, NFPA 70, The National Electrical Code (NEC), Section 210-12, requires that all branch circuits supplying 125V, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere outlets installed in dwelling unit bedrooms be protected by an arc-fault Circuit interrupter.

This page was developed to assist AHJ's by providing them with a reference source of UL information on AFCI's.

The following articles, written by UL Staff, provide background information on the development of UL 1699, the Standard for Arc-Fault Circuit Interrupters, and issues related to AFCIs.
NooberTehGod
QUOTE(sha @ Feb 24 2005, 05:14 AM)
I ment to write up a post for a fix on this.  Its pretty easy to take the power supply out and just use sand paper to scar the bare metal then just add some flux and resolder it.  When it moves in and out it arces and can cause a spark so it jsut needs to braced better and adding allot of solder will do the trick.
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Yeah, someone should write a guide. Also I assume this means that once one fixes the power supply, its safe to use the original cord? I dont wanna have to use that bulky mofo.
ferrari_rulz_02
well even though mine doesnt need it, i might add some solder just to make sure
G0t M4xx 21
QUOTE(NooberTehGod @ Feb 24 2005, 05:22 AM)
Yeah, someone should write a guide.  Also I assume this means that once one fixes the power supply, its safe to use the original cord?  I dont wanna have to use that bulky mofo.
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Thats the general idea, the new power cord is a joke.
ferrari_rulz_02
QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Feb 24 2005, 03:27 PM)
Thats the general idea, the new power cord is a joke.
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the new powercord is an insurance policy. so if someone gets killed, and they arnt using the new cord, ms cant be sued.
thats what its all about
pimpmaul69
QUOTE(xman954 @ Feb 24 2005, 05:20 AM)
it is not a GFI
this M$ way of not having to replace your xbox ...
is this right or wrong only time will tell.....
can any one look at there cord and see what UL number it has

this is from the UL site
Arc Fault Circuit Interrupters (AFCIs)
AFCI's involve a technology that detects arcing-faults in electrical circuits that could cause fires. By recognizing characteristics unique to arcing and functioning to de-energize the circuit when an arc-fault is detected, AFCI's further reduce the risk of fire beyond the scope of conventional fuses and circuit breakers.

Effective January 1, 2002, NFPA 70, The National Electrical Code (NEC), Section 210-12, requires that all branch circuits supplying 125V, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere outlets installed in dwelling unit bedrooms be protected by an arc-fault Circuit interrupter.

This page was developed to assist AHJ's by providing them with a reference source of UL information on AFCI's.

The following articles, written by UL Staff, provide background information on the development of UL 1699, the Standard for Arc-Fault Circuit Interrupters, and issues related to AFCIs.
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an arc fault circuit interruptor is not required in all bedrooms because there are sTATE CODES...COLORADO WHERE I LIVE ONLY REQUIRES A GFCI IN DAMP LOCATIONS AND NO AFCI ARE REQUIRED IN HOUSES except in a few city codes(sorry accidently hit caps) but use afci in commercial
Relaxos
Ack ! These things are huge.
Im gonna go crack one open,
its bound to have some modchip surpressing technology in it.
A CI cant be this big.

Both my xboxes have foxlink psu and both are fine.
Ims0nia
My PSU died 3 weeks ago and it is a 1.1

I order a PSU from eBay

Do I still need the power cord replacement?
Infamous_One
QUOTE(Ims0nia @ Feb 24 2005, 06:13 AM)
My PSU died 3 weeks ago and it is a 1.1

I order a PSU from eBay

Do I still need the power cord replacement?
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order it , is free , you can sell it or keep it for an emergency. laugh.gif
Jynsta
I have a v1.3 xbox and got the normal looking power cord, looks identical to the one it is suppose to be replace. Why did MS bother sending me the same cord? Not that I don't mind getting an extra cord. smile.gif Looks like the v1.0/1.1 owners who got that big bulky cords are the ones who need to be worried about their xboxes...
ICEFuZiOn
QUOTE(Ims0nia @ Feb 23 2005, 09:13 PM)
My PSU died 3 weeks ago and it is a 1.1

I order a PSU from eBay

Do I still need the power cord replacement?
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Do you have your old PSU still? If its a Foxlink, check the soldier points and see if yours are broken. Many other people in this thread had that problem.

muhaha.gif muhaha.gif muhaha.gif

And does anyone know why MS would be sending replacement cords for Delta PSU owners? There has to be a problem with those also, but from what I have read here no one has seen any problem with them?

If it was just the foxlink PSU's with a problem MS would have denied the serial numbers from xbox's with Deleta PSU's..
spandexman
I registered just to post how true this was. In late August my xbox sparked on me, I called them up and they wanted my to pay 80$ to get it fixed and I decided not to do it. I found if I shoved my xboxcord in at an angle it would turn on without sparking so I left it like that. Then I heard they were recalling xbox cords. I was confused on why they were recalling xbox cords because it had nothing to do with the cord. So today I got my new cord and tried it out. Still sparks, didnt change anything. Im calling 18004my xbox and asking for a free fix.
flashfreak
i don't want a big chunker! i already have a surge protector that luckily turned the power off when i got electrocuted in the box b4.

just think though, (im gonna get flamed for this) if u were m$, and u made a faulty product, would u wanna have to waste all ur hard earned money? even though m$ have billions and didn't really earn it.

anyway im gonna have to re-solder these bits even though i don't want to. i can offer to do it for other ppl too for a low price smile.gif
HoRnEyDvL
i get a delta in my 1.0
13/02/2002
see what cord i get
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