Listen, BJ has been silent on MXM for over 6 months. Either this project should be handed over to someone else who has more time to work on it, or it should be given to the Open Source Community.

This isn't a rag on BJ. I have been there too: when life gets in the way of projects you are working on. But let's face it, it's time to either step up or step down. Too many people love MXM and look forward to new releases with new features and bug fixes...gotta keep up with the other dashs out there.

Just my two cents.

i have been silently watchin the xbox scene waitin for an update and i must say i was thinking this when he didnt have an update by xmas... i know a date was never given, but come on it has been long enough and with very little support so please hear our crys..... let the community that loves mxm help it become the prestigeous dash it used to be.....

It IS open source!

Well that's some good news. Where are the great amateur devs out there? What's the link to the Source Forge site (rhetorical--don't recommend a search--it should be posted with impunity).

It's been too long since we have seen an MXM update....

that's all.

It's not on sourceforge, it's released with the binary... So just look in your rar you got for MXM. There's a folder called src or something.

Hmm, would it not be more beneficial to the community to have it on SourceForge so the community can work on it in tandum--as opposed to individuals working individually on it.

I am just trying to search for a solution. I am not a developer, otherwise I would take up the task myself...

I just think there has to be a better way. BenJeremy is just not available to continue this project. It would be a shame to let this project shrivel on the vine due to neglect. Avalaunch and the such as quickly catching up on MXM, and if you ask some people, they'll say that these other dashs have surpassed MXM.

Frankly, MXM (IMHO) is the finest dashboard I have installed and used. How do we keep it current?

the source that is released with the binary isn't the latest wip source... so as such, a lot of things are missing from it. It would be silly of someone to try to write from that since it is already outdated. If someone asked Ben nicely he might be willing to release the source of the latest wip to them.. if he felt that something positive was actually going to be done with it... Of course AFAIK (and from the rumor mill) Ben himself has been continuing work on the latest source... Not having tried the most recent wip I can't really say too much about it... but I think I'd like to try it sometime... assuming it's not too buggy... MXM served well.. but there were some things that I didn't like about it and was hoping to see changed... in the mean time... I'm using XBMC as my dash... looking forward to a new version of MXM.... but if it never sees the light of day.. I still thank Ben Jeremy for a great time I had using it anyway...

I have the WIP source and so do the other testers, but I'm afraid I don't want to post them as I'd then be going against BJ's trust...

well ask him if u can give them out then

well it's not like BJ wan't to do this alone. So far noone has stepped up and offered to help. I'm sure he'd love having some assistence. Sent him a pm or somethingn if you're serious.

Alright people lets be realistic here...its been over 18 monthes since an update although we've all read time and time again "it will be worth the wait"......Xbox 2 is worth the wait but to wait this long for an update of a very dated dash you have to be joking.
BJ would like some help, geez its taken him 18 monthes to realise this??????
MXM is dead...face it people.
Gone are the days where it was THE dash, gone are the days when #mxm had hundreds of people on it talking and swapping info...its this way because it was let get this way by the so called "elders" of mxm who we dare not upset for fear of reprisal and flaming.
Its obvious BJ doesnt have the time to complete what he started otherwise it would be done by now, its just extremely sad to see mxm die the death it has whilst everything else has evolved around it.
And for the chosen few who have these so called wips....good on you, thats not much help to those of us who have been waiting for any kind on new info with mxm and have nothing new.
I think most people have been loyal and patient waiting for an update only to see nothing happen...regardless of what you guys say is happening, is going to happen and what whizz bang files you and only you have for mxm its of total no use to us the normal guys out there waiting for an update.
Move on people move on.....

I'd just be happy with a release that added the quick startup, and skin changing-on-the-fly, features.

While my original intention in creating this topic was to get this project up and running again, I am afraid that Rodstorm has hit the nail right on the head (no pun intended-get it? Nail? Dead? Coffin. Oh forget it.). I think he is expressing what so many of us have felt for a long, long time. And sadly many have moved on to dashes that are still currently-developed projects.

So I expect that I will be trying out some new dashes...thinking about it, it's ironic how loyal I was to MXM...I stopped tracking the other dashes entirely, so I kind of need to start the evaluation process all over again.

With a new box out this year move on from this outdated dash and try one of the others .
If MXM ever resurfaces on the new xbox the service from the "Elders" (ROFLMAO) will kill that too banning anyone that dares to add an opinion or offer outside help .... 5 mods no posts , its a good place to be , they are oh so quiet now , just a little embarrassed I suspect that thier dreams of being/supplying the only dash came to nothing

Leave the desert and go live with a new dash before this box is history.
Its time to clear some forum space me thinks.
CaTcHa rolls on the floor laughing so very hard at all the deserted sheep

MXM was THE KING.. i was so amazed at those video skins for mxm.. i installed it.. and just looked at that thing.. it was beautiful.. but all teh devs. has so much errogence.. if BJ can release the WIP to few peole why not even show us a screenshot.. or all thw wip having people are just blowing some smoke screen.. whatever it is its not good..

now move on to unleashx.. support video skins.. even you can dress it up just liek mxm.. if you are that deperate for mxm..

I think your attitude sucks. Do you have a full-time job, and family? If so I don't think you would be able to rationally come down on BJ this hard. MXM was made by people for FREE. You paid nothing for it.

Am I disappointed that there has been no public version of MXM for over a year? Yes.

Am I going to get angry at the people that made the version I use daily? Hell no.

Grow up.

If you want to use Avalaunch, knock yourself out. I'm still going to be using MXM, because it is completely stable. IMO it is STILL the best dashboard. The only 2 features I even want at this point is the fast start up, and skin switching on-the-fly.

Yeah, using the menu cache and reboot everytime you add something new is a great option isnt it???????

Erm cant see where I really came down hard I could give examples of where they went wrong with mxm but wont because the lack of interest in this forum is proof of that so no explanation should be required .

Dont really see why we need familys to have opinions and although it is none of your business really .....

YES I am married with 2 lovely children who will be bought up not to look down on anyone (no slagging of noobs for them in any walk of life)
YES I have a very good job working from home which allows me to spend a lot of time on my PC and still pay a mortgage on a 5 bedroomed home and 2 holidays abroad a year .

What the F*"k this has to do with anything the mind boggles
Why this in your opinion should entitle ME with more reason to have an opinion more than others that dont have children I cannot begin to wonder , your view on that is immature / vindictive and blinkered to say the least.
Go see a shrink and see him about your noob vision towards the single people of this world , you are applying xbox forum mentality to real life
It is people like you that helped MXM sink by hanging on and being happy with nothing

This WAS AT ONE TIME a good dash that was coded for xbox fanatics who had faith in it and believed in the whys and welfares of it only to be dumped upon by a coder who chose to only give WIP out to his sellect few , those that would idolise him and not comment on the bad points.

Unfortunately BJ in my opinion lost the plot and let his mods run riot in here and you can see yourself by the (lack of) posts in here and no forthcoming help what happened.

New box new dashes , MXM may resurface by then but will not compete the trust disappeared a long long time ago , maybe Bloodymary will resurface to help.

You should be thankfull that the dash you adore may now have an active thread for a couple of days as peeps reappear out of the woodwork

Guys, honestly, Please dont let this get out of hand. Benjeremy will be back with someone bigger, better, and faster.
One thing is for sure, people are entitled to their opinion so fire away, however, MXM still has scripting ability that is next to none.

So lets get this thread jumpstarted so that Benjeremy will have some help on future development. Now Im not that deep into mxm but very willing to learn a deeper understanding. So.... if possible, could any beta testers and hirarchy of mxm introduce to the mxm community details of mxm inner-workings. I will help out with what I have learned. Take care
jcupp114

I think we are getting caught up in WHY we are in the situation as opposed to HOW we can work to fix it.

BJ is AWOL.
Some people have a WIP build.
Users are disappointed with the lack up updates/news.

Is there anything that can be done?

A prime example... If he was around for me to ask him then he would answer you himself.

I don't think that anyone who has the WIP would be willing to share it with others unless there were a VERY good reason. Because BJ put his trust in testers and we would be breaking this trust.

heh... whats interesting is that if u check out his latest posts.. you'll see that he has been spending a lot of time in "Politics, News and Religion" fourm ..and not the mxm forum, and also his last post was like december 8th.. and he hasnt logged in in over a month...
oh well

MXM was the best dash around....it's really sad to see it go this long without any updates. It should would be nice if some developers took interest and started work on it and it kept it alive.

At this point I'd just be happy with the last stable build. The MXM website only talks about this version, and it's not even available to the people that use MXM...

I find it ironic that someone made a nice website for MXM, and the only thing that got posted to it was scripts, for a version not available to the public...

Well, it was a great run while it lasted. I had a lot fun (and lost a lot of sleep) because of MXM. I got freakin addicted to modifying this dash. haha. It WAS the best dash around. Its pretty dissappointing to leave for a few months and come back, only to see it is in the same state as when I left. BenJeremy must be a busy, busy man. Very understandable. I hope it doesnt go out like this without even a "last" public release. If this is where the updates end, I think at least the latest WIP should be released to everyone. Well, hopefully something happens. If anything at all.

Does anybody know what kind of car BJ has?

I was at www.mustangworld.com reading threads in the clubhouse one day. I saw a thread about downloading a leak of Forza (just before official release). When I clicked on it I noticed that the guy who started the thread had Ron Jeremy as his avatar. Hmmm...the guy has an RJ avatar AND he has a modded Xbox.

I asked if he was BJ but I never got a reply.

Hmm...the latest WIP version of MXM has been "seeded" it appears. Have fun!

Mod Edit: I believe an indirect reference was better suited to keep inline with forum rules.

I wonder who decided to sow the "seed" of the latest WIP to the public... I guess some WIP tester out there felt BJ wouldn't mind if the scene had their hands on it after all this time, I also guess they thought BJ would want others to enjoy his long hard work...

Out of curiousity I looked at his profile to see when he last posted. I was surprised to see that he was last active on May 10th...of this year! Good to see he is still alive at least. When somebody who has been such an important member of the scene is so quiet one begins to wonder.

I just got the latest WIP from the net... (seek hard and ye shall find)... I hope to test it a little tonight, but I'm out of town all weekend... I was wondering what is the opinion of those that have been using it for a while.. is it as stable as 0.9n.6??

ok so now the last version is just for those "in the know", and for those willing to go the warez route.

Great...

Whoever that WIP tester was is totally wrong IMHO, maybe BJ wouldn't mind it being released but that is NOT THE POINT. Unless BJ gave direct permission then it shouldn't have been released into the open.

One thing is for sure. It sure wasn't me. I have been so busy latey.

I am unsure whether they were in the right or wrong. What I am sure of though is the fact that they put the name "YuYuHakusho" on the file they uploaded to the "seeding" site. That kinda pisses me off, as it obviously points the finger at me doing it since I use the name YuYu pretty much everywhere I go.

Oh well, though, what's done is done....

YuYu wouldnt do that. He has been in the mxm realm for years as well as other places. Not to mention that he is a mod. Take care
Jcupp114

I wish BJ would chime in and just give the go-ahead to make this legit...

It sucks to have my dash-of-choice reduced to what amounts to "rom searching" to get it..

I haven't had luck locating it, so I guess it's Avalaunch time...

It sucks to have MXM end like this...

Thanks for all the hard work, BJ. I just wish you would have handled the final WIP a little better...

i really wish someone would take over the reigns of mxm and make a new release. we all respesct BJ for what he has created, but nothing has been heard for a long while, and as a long standing mxm supporter i wouldnt like to see it just fade and die. BJ obviously has too many commitments atm so someone close to the team should take over

Maybe re-name it to UMXM and start an Unofficial MXM forum to support it.

@fezzman:That name actually looks good.

Now Ben did states that mxm this is an open source project for anyone who can and wants to tweak and/or continue his work. Notice "his work" where props will be handed to ben as well as the next project group / developers.

Most important mxm or umxm needs a developer who is familar with all of mxm and then that developer needs a support team like that of the past that can debug the wips into the beta stage until the final product builds come out.

Who could step up to the development of mxm or umxm?
Tthen who is going to dedicate themselves to this great new venture of builds to come?

So now the challenge has been set who going to make this happen?

Reply at will.
Take care and GOD BLESS
Jcupp114

I am barely even suitable to apply as a beta tester. I do think that perhaps a new (and maybe pinned) thread should be started. Maybe this will help 'wake up' the rest of the mxm crowd.

I sent an email regarding the leak (to x-s) and asked if it would be worthy of front page news. I never got a reply back. Maybe once a crew is formed then a sort of announcement could be made on the front page.

This could be true to help wake up the mxm side.
However, As stated with Ben that any and all wips is welcomed into mxm. Someone will have to emerge from the scene and claim that he or she will start new wip progress. Then Im sure was the first new umxm or what not is out for testing then the threads will see its people come back and start the testing and debugging. There are numerous people in the scene that could meet this yet umxm will need that person or group of developers committed to making umxm live on.
I all for it as long as Ben is mentioned as founder.
Not the mislead or upset anyone Its just Ben was a solo act for some time yet had an awesome support team that pushed mxm through till now. ok
Now umxm is in need of a jumpstart if anyone is willing to develope it even more go for it, as many will follow.
Take care
Jcupp114

Great to see all of the support for the Dash. However, as has been stated by many longtime users and those with access to the WIP builds, BJ is busy. He put a lot of time into this project and was still handling life at the same time. People get bored, tired, lose their motivation, whatever. I remember BJ saying this was indeed one of his biggest challenges while developing and I am sure that anyone who tried to step up to the plate on this would find themselves in over their heads.

There is little that MXM does not do. Clearing the menu cache when you upload new data is not a big deal really. It takes all of 40 seonds on my box 200+ GB drive.

Whatever, it is the most versatilly skinned dash around.

Maybe if some skinners took some interest in giving the dash a facelift or two, then some Dev's would see that there work wasn't all in vain.

I do seem to remember that BJ also said he was going to be working with some others on a new dash quite a while back. Seems like there have been a few out there that owe something to the mans great work.

Theres a huge to do list.
From scripters to deposit the scripts and or work, debuggers, wiki peeps, skinners where are you. I mean, I think we need a contest! What you you all think. Then theres the development end and its glory. Ben come on back or others step up as more than one will be nice nice nice. Take care
Jcupp114

With all due respect to BJ, this project has become ABONDONWARE. If he doesn't have the time or interest to continue work on this project that some many have come to rely on--then its time he stop being so ego-centric and allow people who have the time, interest, and skills to continue the project that he has let wither on the vine.

Its just a complete disregard for the community at large--especially when there are folks out there who would gladly invest the time to continue development of MXM (umm, UMXM).

Ok
Everyone is right in there on way yet now, I mean now. Who is going to develop? Noone has stepped up yet. I feel sure someone will come forth. Then again Ben may pop up with awesom-ness! .
What makes the difference is the action not the talk, so Im asking anyone who is willing to step up with action for mxm's future? Take care
Jcupp114

interesting topic. and yes, I remember seeing the WIP released a few months back and I doubted at the time that YuYu did it too.

I think we need to step back and rethink our positions before we start calling BJ egotistical though. I don't think that is fair to him, where ever he may be.

I think we would do better to all wish him well though, and hope it was a time/interest related issue for his disappearance and not a matter of health, life for himself or family. etc.

Back to MXM though. The SOURCE has ALWAYS been available to anyone willing to work on it. If you were a developer and asked BJ for it, He would give it to you.

Why were the WIP's not normally made public? Not for secrecy or use by a privilaged few, but ONLY to prevent people from messing up thier xbox with an unstable beta... and to prevent mass complaints from known bugs etc while still allowing a handlful to use, comment, provide feedback etc and TAKE THE RISK of using a WIP.

If you take the time to read that ^^^^ and knowing that BJ hasnt been around working on it, I think you could call it safe for ANYONE to continue the project as long as you dont rip-off BJ's work and not give him credit (AND KEEP IT OPEN SOURCE).


call it warez? LMAO.. Call it HopeSoft© - Cause I wanna see it too!

My 2 cents... Where the hell are you BJ?

Nice to see you back Kold and Yuyu.
I would love to start some work on this, yet Im not a good person to develop. I do have some scripts that Im working on for the 9.o wip.
Can anyone head up the development of mxm?
Either a person or team of persons?

Others can/will come along aside and help the alpha/beta process.
Take care
jcupp114

Also if anyone has any 9.o scripts to submit, start a thread and go for it.