Angerwound
May 22 2005, 10:21 PM
ANNOUNCING FORZA CUSTOMS!
It seems people get quite angry that they don't have the tools to place to do customs cars through the PC. Therefore, we are offering to do requests for anyone that would like a custom image/decal placed on their cars.
In the next week or so we will be working up a website entitled ForzaCustoms. Here you will be able to download the template for your car of choice and edit as much of it as you like.. We will then import the images directly to forza and deliver the car to you via the XBOX Live Service. The templates will resemble this one here and should be quite easy to understand what each area of the car is.
http://skgt4pics.home.comcast.net/Corvette.rarHopefully, some of you great photoshop artists will take advantage of this unique opportunity and create some really awesome designs. This is the best way we can offer this ability to the Forza Community without risking cheating and modification of car physics. Remember, we are only three and can only do as many of these imports as we can in our spare time so depending upon how many requests we get their could be a short waiting list.
Any suggestions, feedback, questions and death threats may be posted here.
ForzaCustoms Team
Sniperkil, Angerwound, BrienJ
ForzaCustoms@Gmail.com
booya42301
May 22 2005, 10:40 PM
Woot so any picture at all?
SniperKilla
May 22 2005, 10:47 PM
http://skgt4pics.home.comcast.net/bentley.rarbentley gt template
anything you can put on the car panels in photoshop we can bring into the game
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:01 PM
can we get a skyline template PLEASE!?
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:14 PM
QUOTE(booya42301 @ May 22 2005, 05:12 PM)
can we get a skyline template PLEASE!?
Which Skyline? :-P
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:15 PM
So, wait!
You tell me, that you can give me cars via XBL? How would that work? Are you employees of MS? It sounds VERY interesting, but I have no idea how this would work out. Would this be able to work over Xlink-Kai, too? Because i can't use XBL (no credit card) and would under circumstances be interested in that.
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:17 PM
QUOTE(Horscht @ May 22 2005, 05:26 PM)
So, wait!
You tell me, that you can give me cars via XBL? How would that work? Are you employees of MS? It sounds VERY interesting, but I have no idea how this would work out. Would this be able to work over Xlink-Kai, too? Because i can't use XBL (no credit card) and would under circumstances be interested in that.
The best way to transfer said cars is via the Buy And Sell built into Forza. Transfer of textures or game files in any other fasion is strictly against MS rules. Therefore, we will sync up with you on live and sell the car to you once finished. I think XLINK/Kai is a possibility as well for non live users.
EDIT: Some past imported jobs...
http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3404http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3306http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3393http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3302http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3324http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3303
t_mac_ca
May 22 2005, 11:18 PM
yeah anyway other than xbox live( need a dam credit card) ????
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:19 PM
QUOTE(t_mac_ca @ May 22 2005, 05:29 PM)
yeah anyway other than xbox live( need a dam credit card) ????
If system link supports Buy And Sell rooms then yes, XLINK will work too.
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:21 PM
Lol sorry i was so excited about this i forgot to say which lol
The 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:21 PM
that's sweet. System link supports trading. Damn...... sweet!
Now I have to think about a car, and a paintjob.
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:22 PM
QUOTE(booya42301 @ May 22 2005, 05:32 PM)
Lol sorry i was so excited about this i forgot to say which lol
The 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II
Coming right up.
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:23 PM
allright, I got a car I would like to have. It's the Mercedes SLR.
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:25 PM
so do we put our Gamertags here?
Also do we email the cars to your Gmail?
Can they be XXX?
Cuz i have a few.
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:29 PM
One thing tho. It just popped into my mind: How would we go on about synching? I mean, you're from the U.S., right? It would be pretty hard to find a time that we could synch up, as I am from Germany (CET).
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:29 PM
QUOTE(booya42301 @ May 22 2005, 05:36 PM)
so do we put our Gamertags here?
Also do we email the cars to your Gmail?
Can they be XXX?
Cuz i have a few.
Once template completed, Email to ForzaCustoms@gmail.com.
Please leave in uncompressed BMP format.
As far as content on the car... I have no rules.. But I take no responsibility for any suspensions/bans/feedback from xbox live.
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:30 PM
QUOTE(Horscht @ May 22 2005, 05:40 PM)
One thing tho. It just popped into my mind: How would we go on about synching? I mean, you're from the U.S., right? It would be pretty hard to find a time that we could synch up, as I am from Germany (CET).
Again, a current problem we're facing. We will try our best to deliver cars in a reasonable time.
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:32 PM
I can hook up anytime. what time is it there now?
Satorian
May 22 2005, 11:33 PM
So, could any of you guys send me the physics files I'm looking for as I stated in the other thread?
I don't want any tool or repackager. Just the files.
SnipersLaww
May 22 2005, 11:35 PM
hahaha, knew i would find you guys in here too
you guys didnt make the same thread in the official xbox forums did you?
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:38 PM
no you cant have physics it would be ruining the gameplay.
Now as for the customs paintjobs they are soooo no illegal!
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:39 PM
2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II TEMPLATE
http://skgt4pics.home.comcast.net/2002_Nis_V_Spec_II.rarThis is a tougher template... Wheel wells aren't defined. Take note that they are there... :-P
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:41 PM
Could I please have a Mercedes SLR template? thanks in advance.
SniperKilla
May 22 2005, 11:44 PM
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:47 PM
when you guys open your website will it have all the stock templates?
Angerwound
May 22 2005, 11:47 PM
QUOTE(booya42301 @ May 22 2005, 05:58 PM)
when you guys open your website will it have all the stock templates?
Yes, we are working on getting all these available now.
booya42301
May 22 2005, 11:48 PM
i love the episode 3 skyline
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:52 PM
Yet another question from me
I would like to have a silver SLR with a Metallica logo on the side, and perhaps the Metallica Ninja star on the hood or roof. Do I need to color all the black parts of the template silver or grey first?
SniperKilla
May 22 2005, 11:55 PM
QUOTE(Horscht @ May 22 2005, 07:03 PM)
Yet another question from me
I would like to have a silver SLR with a Metallica logo on the side, and perhaps the Metallica Ninja star on the hood or roof. Do I need to color all the black parts of the template silver or grey first?
whatever you paint the black parts, is what the body color will be...
Horscht
May 22 2005, 11:59 PM
aha. So anything black will later be replaced by silver, i see. Thanks for the answer.
SniperKilla
May 23 2005, 12:00 AM
QUOTE(Horscht @ May 22 2005, 07:10 PM)
aha. So anything black will later be replaced by silver, i see. Thanks for the answer.
no.. anything black will be black
the black in the panels will be black on the car.. so paintbucket them whatever color you want your car to be
Satorian
May 23 2005, 12:02 AM
QUOTE(booya42301 @ May 23 2005, 12:49 AM)
no you cant have physics it would be ruining the gameplay.
Now as for the customs paintjobs they are soooo no illegal!
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...dpost&p=2625240
Angerwound
May 23 2005, 12:07 AM
QUOTE(Horscht @ May 22 2005, 06:10 PM)
aha. So anything black will later be replaced by silver, i see. Thanks for the answer.
The templates are created from a completely black car. If you wish the car to be silver. Paint everything black in the template silver.
booya42301
May 23 2005, 12:25 AM
on second thoughts i like to have physics also for Skyline
jackbauer
May 23 2005, 01:23 AM
er.. is much more easy if everyone has the tool and knowledge to do the custom cars?
we can test the cars our self, test the images and etc.
why i need to send for yours my ideas and images for yours do the cars? if for some ranson i can't like the car what you've made for me?, or for give the custom design we must to enter in a queue on yours jobs for us? or queue to sell and buy system of the game in xbl/kai?
isn't much more easy way if every one who interesting having a tool or knowledge for do our self cars, made by we, with all changes, tests and etc.
i said it because when i creat a car, normaly i give up 4hours, if a decal or layer isn't in the position or size what i want, i normaly delete more other layers to test it or something like that, but when urs do the car for me, i can't observe and follow hows the car is finished, how the decal and vinyl will be on the car and etc.
that is the idea?
sorry for bad english.
this is just a constructive critic, for best.. for us
Angerwound
May 23 2005, 01:25 AM
QUOTE(jackbauer @ May 22 2005, 07:34 PM)
er.. is much more easy if everyone has the tool and knowledge to do the custom cars?
we can test the cars our self, test the images and etc.
why i need to send for yours my ideas and images for yours do the cars? if for some ranson i can't like the car what you've made for me?, or for give the custom design we must to enter in a queue on yours jobs for us? or queue to sell and buy system of the game in xbl/kai?
isn't much more easy way if every one who interesting having a tool or knowledge for do our self cars, made by we, with all changes, tests and etc.
i said it because when i creat a car, normaly i give up 4hours, if a decal or layer isn't in the position or size what i want, i normaly delete more other layers to test it or something like that, but when urs do the car for me, i can't observe and follow hows the car is finished, how the decal and vinyl will be on the car and etc.
that is the idea?
sorry for bad english.
this is just a constructive critic, for best.. for us

The problem being that it is a VERY complicated process and any tool would requre a great deal of knowledge to use. That aside, if everyone had access to this they would be editing thing on cars they shouldn't be changing... Physics/Ratings etc...
jackbauer
May 23 2005, 01:45 AM
QUOTE(Angerwound @ May 23 2005, 02:36 AM)
The problem being that it is a VERY complicated process and any tool would requre a great deal of knowledge to use. That aside, if everyone had access to this they would be editing thing on cars they shouldn't be changing... Physics/Ratings etc...
okay,every hack is complicated on start. But how many hard it is to know?
some things, most of us can do and learn perfectly
if yours have a little patience to explain the basic, what we can do, what are we can't do, the limits, image rules (aka: size format, alpha, etc), car propriets
we not retarded
and i think most of us isn't lame or newbie enough to learn.
IF by the anyway is can't be possible to do for we, there is no problem
i can select my i

mages and tell yours how i want my car
thank you anyway.
funkenstein
May 23 2005, 02:59 AM
I thought that this community was based on sharing. I am not a programmer but works in computer graphics and I would have be able to test this kind of thing by myself.
I don't have the xboxlive.. So how could I have the modeles??? and how could i destroy the game online. I play alone or with some friends in my home.. So what would be the problem????
Don't understand that, but you do the soft and it 's your right to decide to share it or not..
Sorry for my poor english but i'm just a little frenchie...
BurnerAzR
May 23 2005, 03:41 AM
Nice, Id like a 1987 porsche 911 turbo 3.3 template.
Angerwound
May 23 2005, 04:55 AM
Angerwound
May 23 2005, 05:15 PM
WIP Website
http://www.forzacustoms.infoGood index of current templates available.
crobar
May 23 2005, 05:26 PM
hi i was interested in developing an app to create custom cars...
problem is im not sure what format to out put, or what variables to input for the various decals ect...
this would be a big job cause of all of the graphics and car types but i figure making the tool on the pc would make it easier to make a car look than on your tv with a controller...
is this a possibility in anyones eyes or am i barking up the wrong tree?
PedrosPad
May 23 2005, 09:57 PM
QUOTE(crobar @ May 23 2005, 06:37 PM)
hi i was interested in developing an app to create custom cars...
<snip />
this would be a big job cause of all of the graphics and car types but i figure making the tool on the pc would make it easier to make a car look than on your tv with a controller...
is this a possibility in anyones eyes or am i barking up the wrong tree?
I considered producing something like this in response to this post:
QUOTE(jackbauer @ May 23 2005, 02:34 AM)
er.. is much more easy if everyone has the tool and knowledge to do the custom cars?
we can test the cars our self, test the images and etc.
<snip />
isn't much more easy way if every one who interesting having a tool or knowledge for do our self cars, made by we, with all changes, tests and etc.
i said it because when i creat a car, normaly i give up 4hours, if a decal or layer isn't in the position or size what i want, i normaly delete more other layers to test it or something like that, but when urs do the car for me, i can't observe and follow hows the car is finished, how the decal and vinyl will be on the car and etc.
A PC based, DirectX, app sounds like it would be just the job. However such an app would need the 3D meshes for the cars out of Forza, and they're copyright which would limit distribution.
iwanttheagrocrag
May 23 2005, 10:42 PM
Is there any way to be able to engine swap with cars your your not supposed to?
jackbauer
May 23 2005, 11:06 PM
QUOTE
A PC based, DirectX, app sounds like it would be just the job. However such an app would need the 3D meshes for the cars out of Forza, and they're copyright which would limit distribution.
hey pedro you said an application like greed explorer? (the app for edit and preview the textures of characters from dead or alive games).
an application like this for forza would be great

just an idea for advanced devolopers and people who have knowledge.
BoRG915
May 23 2005, 11:17 PM
I think what you are doing for the forza peeps is great and I would like to say thanks!
Oh and also could I have the Audi TT templete?
BoRG915
SniperKilla
May 24 2005, 02:05 AM
mrjkwik
May 24 2005, 04:41 AM
just a question...
not saying you guys arent releasing a tool to just hold on to it, since releasing a tool would be easier than doing everything for everyone.
is it that a tool cant be made to do ONLY the graphics part, or is it just too difficult to make one that will do ONLY the graphics part. i can get the idea if the file you have to extract contains more than just graphics, then releasing a tool would then open up all the other problems so many are worried about. anyway, just curious.
stemp001x
May 24 2005, 02:31 PM
I'm guessing people are editing the 2 *.texture files associated to each custom car in the save file (presumably using Photoshop) - could anyone confirm that this is how it's being done, and what process/software is being used to open/edit/export in this format
Angerwound
May 24 2005, 03:40 PM
QUOTE(stemp001x @ May 24 2005, 08:42 AM)
I'm guessing people are editing the 2 *.texture files associated to each custom car in the save file (presumably using Photoshop) - could anyone confirm that this is how it's being done, and what process/software is being used to open/edit/export in this format
That is not possible as they are signed with the Auth Key in the gamesave. Edits must be done to the textures before they get placed there or you must have the Auth Key.
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