any one know where i can get a nos hack for Forza.Motorsport

thank you

wow, your name really says it all....

hahahha i think thay havent come up with that yet.

its kinda funny though...the game has everything BUT nos... i dont get it.. most pimped out cars around here have nos systems in it... it ads a good 70+ hp and totally eliminates turbo lag... but..whatever

They don't use NOS in these races in the real world so no point putting them in the game.

its not nfs:u, thank fuck!

Agreed, quit trying to be 2 Fast 2 Furious

This is a racing game, not Max Power Magazine

It would be plenty appropriate when racing on the streets of New York, Rio, and Tokyo, or when racing on the drag strip.


Overall I am perfectly fine with it not being there though. Having nitrous would just lead to idiots plowing into me even faster on the first damn turn.

nos doesn't add horsepower. but anyways, i prefer the realism over a screen where everything is blurry but your car. all that high speed stuff is getting old...

Might's well buy a nean glow under you car and buy speakers for the trunk. *COUGH NFSU*

WTF! Umm yes it does!!
agreed that a lot of aspects of NFSU2 sucked ass, like neons and spinning rims but it is a game tailored for a specific market.
i would have liked to see some drag racing proper 1/4 mile stuff and drift in forza.
but that is just me i suppose

You can get drift if you customize your car for it, and turn off TCS / STM systems, and in multiplayer if you go through the point to point tracks there is a Test Track Drag Strip...

and you get more cash for drifting

lol I love that, "Nos doesn't add horsepower" LMAO, I want to type more but it is too funny

NOS, turbos, and superchargers don't add HP. They add torque, but whatever.

Well guys, NOS does not add true HP. A cars horsepower is rated from the peak amount at a certain RPM.
NOS would do nothing for a dyno slip because it would not be the same everytime unless shot at the exact same moment every test.

Example. Sure I can add a wet shot of NOS to my car and say it has 70+ more HP, but it would be a lie. Why............because when the tank becomes empty..............I don't have that 70+ more HP anymnore now do I. No, I have my true HP rating.

HP is a theoretical number derived from the formula:

W=F x D

whereas:
W=work
F=force used
D=distance traveled

Horsepower is just a measure of how fast you complete the work. Thus theoretical
i.e.

if a car develops 500 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3500 rpm, it has just made 333.206 hp
if the same car develops 900 ft.-lbs of torque at 4200 rpm, then its horsepower has just inreased to 719.726 hp. Do you honestly think that someone has taken 333.206 or 719.726 horses and used them to get this exact number?

Just had to throw in my $0.02.

wow this thread just went right off topic lol

Who cares...............if you want NOS..................play the super duper shitty Gran Turismo 4

My A** they dont add horsepower, they either create a more combustible mix (NOS) or they add more air into the combustion process both making the combustion more volatile, bigger and faster the combustion the more power you have.

Yea or NFS:U

no they dont external shit such as nos does not add hp it does not count towards the total hp unless stated such as 500 hp with nos but you can say 500 hp and not have to say supercharger

But on Topic, Its funny how you can put NOS decals and StreetGlow decals but none of thats includeed in the game.

NOS is in the game, just not enabled in the final version, and not sure if it can be made to work.

Add torque, but not power?


Man, what happened to P=2*pi*M*n? Last time I checked it was still valid....

racing stripes add extra 5hp!!!!! tomfg! stupidly over modified cars are shit

Nitrous Oxide is wayyyyy overrated. I'm glad they kept it out of this game. I work with forced induction systems all day at work, and out of all the different systems, Nitrous Oxide is complete crap. Forza is a simulator, not a rice boy fantasy, so it makes sense they left that crap out.

Oh, and FYI:

Nitrous Completely eliminates turbo lag? awesome...what scene from fast and the furious was that from? NOTHING completely eliminates turbo lag.

Nitrous does nothing for Dyno graphs huh? that's funny, i've personally tuned and seen cars make 20-100+ SAE WHP from nitrous. Shot the same time? ever hear of a throttle based microswitch? or maybe a computerized system (i.e. venom?) Yep, bottle empty = no extra power. At the same time, turbo seizes, no extra power. Supercharger belt snaps, no extra power. Sieze ain injector, no extra power. Run out of gas, no extra power. Holy crap, by your logic, NOTHING is power! EVERYBODY's TRUE HP is 0!

The formula to determine horsepower from torque is
(Lbs/Ft x RPM) / 5,252 = Horsepower.

Forced induction systems do add torque. Which is also, based on the formula above, is horsepower.

The one thing everybody is forgeting is that nitrous oxide is only practical for drag racing. Since 99% of the game is about racing on other types of tracks, it isn't something that is really needed in the game, especially since the game is supposed to be a simulation.

WTF?!

horsepower = torque x speed/5252 and torque=5252 x horsepower/speed

weird... they're related...

can't have one without the other....

good day,
Rustmonkey

lol 70hp instantly..

nos is horrible.. bad for your engine..
nos is very very ricer

turbo lag? well theres only turbo lag if u cant shift... and have too big of a turbo

im exxagerating of course, but nos costs $$$... turbo is like free hp

supercharge if u dont like lag.. fuck nos

P=2*pi*M*n is the more universal one.


And it's the one that explains why power is a better performance indicator than torque if you keep in mind that cars have gearing which a lot of people don't get.

Oh and by the way its not NOS. Thats is Nitrous Oxide Systems owned by Holly. NOS refers to the company not the nitrous. So when you mention nitrous you say nitrous not NOS! . You guys have been watching Fast and The Furious too much

actually iLLNESS, nitrous isn't all that expensive compared to forced induction. Forced induction pressurizes air and jams it into your engine. This isn't as safe as nitrous either. Giving your turbo or supercharger too much psi will result in blowing your motor (which believe it or not i have seen done alot more times then someone blowing their motor using nitrous). Nitrous is safe and won't hurt your motor if you use it in moderation. A 70 shot will hardly hurt a motor unless you decide to use it whle you drive around town. Stop watching Fast and The Furious and go get some knowledge about how cars work. Until you do that don't talk anymore

OK howabout we stick to the topic subject here people?

Conclusion: If you want NOS, add it yourself by finalizing the code, or wait for NFSU:Most Wanted. (Which IMHO looks entertaining, due to the cops being back)

End of story.

lmao who gives a shit what its refering to jeez just about every goddamn person calls it nos dude u should calm down a bit

i dont know much about superchargers and turbos, but i asked a mechanic what was that noise i hear when a wrx goes down the street when shifting gears and it was the blowoff valve that he said eliminates the lag from turbos when shifting gears

Pfft i agree with ronu, people spend wayy to much time with movies like "the fast and the furious", YA nitrous is cheep in comparision to forced induction, but both forms are bad for your engine, there's no two ways about it forcing your engine to work harder is bad, but has results. I think forza is great because other than a few things it almost elimanates rice from fast cars. Big wings and stickers and don't make your car faster.

Nitrousoxide allows for more fuel to be burned = more ponies

my pink geo metro had No2

weeeeeeeeeee

NOS, turbo, compressors (superchargers) all generate kW/h (horsepower) and torque.

A NOS loaded engine will generate more kW/h and torque when NOS is injected. If NOS did not generate more kW/h, by heightening the burn temperature of the fuel increasing the engine performance, it would be pointless to use it.

I beg your pardon? First of all it's not called "turbo lag". The name is load pressure delay.

NOS doesn't have anything to do with the turbo so what you're saying is plain bs.

The only way to keep the load pressure constant is to keep the rpm up while gearing.

Correct.

The common name is dump valve, and it doesn't eliminate the need to re-establish the load pressure between gear shifts. A dump valve releases overpressure.

nevermind

"Turbo Lag" and "Blow-off valve" are commonly accepted terms, so you don't have to nitpick.
And nitrous decreses load pressure delay by incresing the amount of exhaust (more air from the nitrous burning the extra fuel = more exhaust), increaseing exhaust pressure to accelerate the impeller bringing it up to speed faster. While it's not "totally eliminating" turbo lag in the physics sense, it's possible to reduce it to the point of it not being an issue.

A dump valve can reduce compresser impeller loading from overpressure which can lower the impeller speed from the resistance. (no exhaust moving the exhaust impeller with a greater load on the intake impeller tends to slow the turbo down), Which means less effort to get impeller speed back up (since it didn't drop as much) causing less load pressure delay.

Since load pressure delay is a a result of lost load pressure while gearing you're telling me that using NOS while gearing would reduce the delay. Haha. Keep it up...

During turbo lag, there isn't as much air flowing through the enigne, so there's less exhaust that can act on powering the turbo, which means it can't compress the air as well as it could under boost and thus it will have a harder time accelerating than if the engine was pumping a ton of air like it would be under full boost.
Adding nitrous not only adds power when the driver is obvioulsy missing it (or else it wouldn't be lag), it also gives the turbo more power to compress the intake air through a jump in the volume of the gasses in the exhaust that the turbo needs for power to compress that intake air.

So instead of the turbo waiting for low boost air to go through the engine, burn, and power the turbo so a greater amount of air can be fed through the motor and power the turbo so an even greater amount of air can be fed through, and so on... You shorten the cycle when nitrous is used and adds more exhaust to power the turbo. Thus reducing lag.

If for some reason, by "load pressure delay," you simply mean the lag in pressure change that exists due to the elasticity of air when you compress it, that isn't turbo lag, though it may contribute to some of it. Reducing the volume of compressed air between the turbo and the combustion chamber would be the way to fix that. It also means that you changed the context of Loki's post.

You don't have load pressure delay while driving the car with an engine that has rpm, so more exhaust as a result of NOS will not affect the non-existing load pressure delay.

It is when you release the throttle that the engine rpm decreases, resulting in less exhaust so the turbo pressure drops. You don't have to be a race car driver to understand that while keeping the engine rpm up while gearing you eliminate load pressure delay, simply because the load pressure doesn't fall.

Unless you use NOS while shifting gears, when the rpm drops instead of keeping the rpm up with the pedal, NOS will not have any on load pressure delay - yet I wonder how long your engine would last with NOS between each gear shift...

Does Loki's post look edited to you (?) it sure doesn't look edited to me.
Stop trolling the forum.

1, i never said that loki's post was edited
2, i give up trying to explain anything to you

This is by far, the absolute stupidest thing I have ever read in my whole life...

How about this: antifreeze doesn't cool off the engine, it prevents freezing.

Turbo lag is most common in first gear, because the turbo needs to spool(spin as fast as it can to reach the desired pressure) The bigger the turbo, the more lag there is.. Not much lag between shifting since it is fully spooled already.

Are you retarded, put a car on a dyno, run it with no spray, next run with spray. It does add HP AND tourqe. Its an oxidzer so it helps fuels burn faster and hotter, how when it vaporizes when injection the nitrogen seperates from the oxygen which IS flamable, and the more O2 in the motor the more fuel you can run. Not to mention it cools the intake charge which makes the air more dense, more air means more power.

yeah, whatever :cool2:

ok, i idn't finish reading everyones post about the NOS...but, alo of the other posts are true besides the no horse power or torque....just like drag racing, they usually run NOS from ignition or throttle control...i've seen someone run NOS at a drifting comp b4 so it's not just drag...the whole point of it is that...hmmm....idk, i got ahead of myself, lol....so, yeah, umm...theres a migc button for the little ricers because if u run NOS straight with out puting new seats for the valve and valves, u'll fu the engine. Anywho, this topic was all fucked up to begin with!

You, vitalsnipes, will from now on be known as thread digger of the year.